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I’ve been wrong many times before. Like when I thought no way would Americans ever elect an inexperienced, community rabble rouser president. But, it happened, twice. I also never saw it coming that some conservatives would have a hard time distinguishing between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. Politics is weird that way.

So, sorry, I’m out of the predictions game.

No conservative had trouble distinguishing between the two, but many of us rejected the "binary choice" when both choices were despicable. 

And haven't regretted it for a moment since......

I didn't vote for either liberal and will, until my dying day, know that I made the right decision.  :patriot:
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I think the electoral college was a good idea, maybe still is.

The fallout from the Seventeenth Amendment should tell you everything you need to know about taking the right away from the States in selecting our President.
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I’ve been wrong many times before. Like when I thought no way would Americans ever elect an inexperienced, community rabble rouser president. But, it happened, twice. I also never saw it coming that some conservatives would have a hard time distinguishing between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

I find it fascinating that Conservatives willfully deceived themselves into believing a lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat was a staunch 'Conservative' simply because he was not the OTHER New York Liberal Democrat in a pantsuit.
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I find it fascinating that Conservatives willfully deceived themselves into believing a lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat was a staunch 'Conservative' simply because he was not the OTHER New York Liberal Democrat in a pantsuit.

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I find it fascinating that Conservatives willfully deceived themselves into believing a lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat was a staunch 'Conservative' simply because he was not the OTHER New York Liberal Democrat in a pantsuit.

@INVAR   Trump may not be a conservative to your liking but even you would surely agree (or maybe not) that he is light years away from The Other Woman.

As Democrats look ahead to the midterms and the 2020 presidential race, lawmakers and candidates are pushing the agenda even further to the left -- with bigger promises of sweeping government welfare programs ranging from guaranteed jobs to universal income.

Democrats ARE getting more liberal and more socialistic if that is possible.  They WANT illegal immigrants.  They want to disband ICE.  They want Obamacare redoux and even worse.  They want tax payers to pay for all their social programs that give them votes.  They want to tax more.  They hate business. 

Trump is different in every meaningful way.  He has not governed as a liberal at all.  He's tried to keep illegals out and may succeed if the Supreme Court rules correctly.  He's for departing illegals who commit crimes.  He's against DACA.

He presided over a good, if not perfect, tax cut.  He's pro-business and Capitalism.  He appointed one good judge and may soon get a chance to reform the 9th Circuit.

I get not liking Trump but I don't get blind hatred that keeps people from getting even a glimpse of reality.
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@INVAR   Trump may not be a conservative to your liking but even you would surely agree (or maybe not) that he is light years away from The Other Woman.

As Democrats look ahead to the midterms and the 2020 presidential race, lawmakers and candidates are pushing the agenda even further to the left -- with bigger promises of sweeping government welfare programs ranging from guaranteed jobs to universal income.

Democrats ARE getting more liberal and more socialistic if that is possible.  They WANT illegal immigrants.  They want to disband ICE.  They want Obamacare redoux and even worse.  They want tax payers to pay for all their social programs that give them votes.  They want to tax more.  They hate business. 

Trump is different in every meaningful way.  He has not governed as a liberal at all.  He's tried to keep illegals out and may succeed if the Supreme Court rules correctly.  He's for departing illegals who commit crimes.  He's against DACA.

He presided over a good, if not perfect, tax cut.  He's pro-business and Capitalism.  He appointed one good judge and may soon get a chance to reform the 9th Circuit.

I get not liking Trump but I don't get blind hatred that keeps people from getting even a glimpse of reality.

Oh good, another "Trump is conservative because...."  comment that has nothing to do with the article and will take us into yet another Tastes Great, Less Filling argument.


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Oh good, another "Trump is conservative because...."  comment that has nothing to do with the article and will take us into yet another Tastes Great, Less Filling argument.



Oh, good, another pointless reply with another corny picture.
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Oh, good, another pointless reply with another corny picture.

You're right, a plea not to go down a road so well traveled it's as deep as the Grand Canyon is a bleep waste of time here.  Carry on with the dumbassery.

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@INVAR   Trump may not be a conservative to your liking but even you would surely agree (or maybe not) that he is light years away from The Other Woman.

I do not subscribe to that line of reasoning or thinking.

Because today it is argued that a Trump is better than a Clinton, but tomorrow you will argue that a Stalin is light years better than a Hitler in the Oval Office, and I'm not dumb enough to play that stupid game any more.

As Democrats look ahead to the midterms and the 2020 presidential race, lawmakers and candidates are pushing the agenda even further to the left -- with bigger promises of sweeping government welfare programs ranging from guaranteed jobs to universal income.

Both parties will get us to the same destination, one just a bit faster than the other.   The Republican Party pushed the agenda further to the Left than the Democrats were able to do on their own, so I no longer succumb to that kind of fear-mongering.  I'm done messing with a totally corrupted and liberal party.  It's time to put energy into something new and different.

That is what I will be doing instead of spending it on a worthless GOP.

Democrats ARE getting more liberal and more socialistic if that is possible.

So are the Republicans.  Their record and actions since they were given power speak to that fact.

They WANT illegal immigrants.  They want to disband ICE.  They want Obamacare redoux and even worse.  They want tax payers to pay for all their social programs that give them votes.  They want to tax more. 

So do Republicans.  They are simply beholden to corporations moreso than Social Justice groups and attorneys.

Trump is different in every meaningful way.

You go ahead and believe that.  I certainly don't.
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You're right, a plea not to go down a road so well traveled it's as deep as the Grand Canyon is a bleep waste of time here.  Carry on with the dumbassery.

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LOL  I can't decide which one I like better.

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Trump stole this one to use a few years ago

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@INVAR   Trump may not be a conservative to your liking but even you would surely agree (or maybe not) that he is light years away from The Other Woman.

As Democrats look ahead to the midterms and the 2020 presidential race, lawmakers and candidates are pushing the agenda even further to the left -- with bigger promises of sweeping government welfare programs ranging from guaranteed jobs to universal income.

Democrats ARE getting more liberal and more socialistic if that is possible.  They WANT illegal immigrants.  They want to disband ICE.  They want Obamacare redoux and even worse.  They want tax payers to pay for all their social programs that give them votes.  They want to tax more.  They hate business. 

Trump is different in every meaningful way.  He has not governed as a liberal at all.  He's tried to keep illegals out and may succeed if the Supreme Court rules correctly.  He's for departing illegals who commit crimes.  He's against DACA.

He presided over a good, if not perfect, tax cut.  He's pro-business and Capitalism.  He appointed one good judge and may soon get a chance to reform the 9th Circuit.

I get not liking Trump but I don't get blind hatred that keeps people from getting even a glimpse of reality.

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Folks like INVAR are essentially nihilists, and are just as destructive to the future of conservatism as the most liberal members of Congress.   
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Trump stole this one to use a few years ago



The bastard.

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The bastard.

Nah. His parents were married.

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COMMON SENSE IN THE WORLD AS IT IS.   

Folks like INVAR are essentially nihilists, and are just as destructive to the future of conservatism as the most liberal members of Congress.   

   I usually don't ask Briefers to put the pipe down and back away but in this case @Jazzhead I'll make an exception.  You got Invar all wrong.  He takes 'clear' thinking to understand.
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   I usually don't ask Briefers to put the pipe down and back away but in this case @Jazzhead I'll make an exception.  You got Invar all wrong.  He takes 'clear' thinking to understand.

I think the problem he has with @INVAR is Invar won't yield an inch, and leftists trying to drag Briefers to the left with sweet-talk hate that.  It's like a crucifix to a vampire.
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COMMON SENSE IN THE WORLD AS IT IS.   

Folks like INVAR are essentially nihilists, and are just as destructive to the future of conservatism as the most liberal members of Congress.

The "nihilists" are the ones who keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

Conservatives aren't "winning" anything. Everything continues to move left with more top down government spending more of our future into oblivion. The Democrats vs. the Republicans have simply turned into rival gang wars over turf where everyone else pays for shrinking levels of protection against the other.

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COMMON SENSE IN THE WORLD AS IT IS.   

Folks like INVAR are essentially nihilists, and are just as destructive to the future of conservatism as the most liberal members of Congress.

Thank you @Jazzhead   I swore never to try to talk sense into @INVAR but then I did.  It was a total waste of time. 

He is probably the worst example of Trump hate clouding a brain to the extent that a person sees no reality at all but there are many like him.

He jeers at comparisons between Trump and a leftist but ignores the reality of what leftists want and will do if they ever get power.

If @corbe ever gets his Grand New Party going, there may be an alternative, but right now it's bilateral and stark.

I cannot even tell you how foolish it is for us to pander to our own hate while ignoring the consequences.
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I think the problem he has with @INVAR is Invar won't yield an inch, and leftists trying to drag Briefers to the left with sweet-talk hate that.  It's like a crucifix to a vampire.

@Cyber Liberty @corbe   You guys give @INVAR way too much credit.

He is actually supporting the left by refusing to admit that there is any difference in Political parties.  Republicans may not be conservative enough, they may be infuriating but they are not out to make American Socialist ...not again.

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Folks like INVAR are essentially nihilists, and are just as destructive to the future of conservatism as the most liberal members of Congress.

Actually, Anti-gun, pro Homo, Pro Abortion Communists pretending to be Conservatives like you are not exactly in a position to lecture the members here about what is destructive to the future of Conservatism or the nation.

It's like having Hillary try and school us about what is detrimental to our future.  Because that is all you are.
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You guys give @INVAR way too much credit.

He is actually supporting the left by refusing to admit that there is any difference in Political parties.  Republicans may not be conservative enough, they may be infuriating but they are not out to make American Socialist ...not again.

So you are not only deaf and dumb lady, but blind as well.

The fruits of your corrupt and meaningless Liberal-Infiltrated and neutered party are self-evident to anyone with a brain that can still reason.

But your posts are a lesson in the blind insanity that cognitive dissonance breeds.
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Nothing will change with the electoral college. I hardly see a point in bringing this subject up.

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@Cyber Liberty @corbe   You guys give @INVAR way too much credit.

He is actually supporting the left by refusing to admit that there is any difference in Political parties.  Republicans may not be conservative enough, they may be infuriating but they are not out to make American Socialist ...not again.

Nope. After 8 years of lurching left under the yoke of Obama, itty bitty half measures are not going to right this ship of state.  The argument I always seem to see being forwarded by the leftists is "The only way to get things moving in to the right is to cave in some to the left."  IOW, to surrender.  To compromise.

"Nuts" is my answer to that strategy.
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I think the problem he has with @INVAR is Invar won't yield an inch, and leftists trying to drag Briefers to the left with sweet-talk hate that.  It's like a crucifix to a vampire.

@Cyber Liberty @INVAR   Everybody knows what INVAR is against which is everything.  Nobody knows what he is for.  He sees nobody he respects, nothing he likes, no joy and no hope.

He's a sad case.  I took him off Ignore because he is so depressing but I've made the mistake of reading some of his posts lately.

@corbe likes him because he says stuff corbe is too nice to say.
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