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If we’ve heard it once, we’ve heard it a thousand times. The big bad NRA holds so much sway over their puppets in Congress that they got them to prohibit the Centers for Disease Control from even studying “gun violence” and the alleged public health crisis that we have in America due to our malignant relationship with firearms the right to keep and bear them.

There’s only one problem with that anti-NRA talking point. It’s completely and utterly false.

The Dickey Amendment — which was one of probably hundreds of special interest baubles that were hung from the 1996 omnibus spending bill Christmas tree that Congress now uses to fund the government’s operations — prevents the CDC from using its money to advocate for gun control. Research into the whos, whats, whens, wheres and whys of firearms and their use in the commission or prevention of crimes is perfectly legal. No matter what our civilian disarmament advocating friends and their accomplices in the media would have you believe.

Why did Rep. Jay Dickey and his gun rights-supporting colleagues in Congress worry that a federal agency might use taxpayer money to advocate against a right guaranteed in the Constitution? Maybe it had something to do with behavior like this:

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(I)n the 1990s, the CDC itself did look into one of the more controversial questions in gun social science: How often do innocent Americans use guns in self-defense, and how does that compare to the harms guns can cause in the hands of violent criminals?

Florida State University criminologist Gary Kleck conducted the most thorough previously known survey data on the question in the 1990s. His study, which has been harshly disputed in pro-gun-control quarters, indicated that there were more than 2.2 million such defensive uses of guns (DGUs) in America a year.

Now Kleck has unearthed some lost CDC survey data on the question. The CDC essentially confirmed Kleck’s results. But Kleck didn’t know about that until now, because the CDC never reported what it found.

“Lost.”

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In other words, the CDC dug into the question of how often Americans defend themselves using firearms. And they did an impressive job of it, in Kleck’s opinion. The only problem with their findings was that they confirmed Kleck’s results.

Why is that a bad thing? Because based on his research, Kleck found that the number of defensive gun uses in the US was somewhere between 2.1 and 2.5 million per year, a huge multiple over the number of crimes involving firearms. Not the lower (though still significant number of 500,000) total that the CDC had claimed.

Gee, why would they bury important results like that? It’s almost as if the white coats at the CDC would rather not publicize any findings that would cast a bad light on the argument for more control and restrictions of civilian-owned firearms.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/04/daniel-zimmerman/cdc-study-confirmed-klecks-2-5-million-defensive-gun-use-statistic-so-they-hid-the-data/
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If my gun was fully anthropomorphized (i.e., had rights)), the CDC burying what is known as "Brady Material" (evidence which may show the accused to be not guilty, or proof of innocence), would be a violation of my gun's rights.


Instead, burying the use of firearms in self-defense and pushing the data regarding the MISuse of firearms to commit crimes amounts to bad science, on the level of 'adjusting' temperature data to support the Anthropogenic Global Warming nonsense.  Such scientific misbehaviour calls into question the honesty and completeness of any social ills study from the organization, and casts the pall of questionable veracity over the entire agency.

As far as that goes, perhaps it would be best if the CDC reevaluated its mission and returned to tracking and researching pathogens and parasites and stayed out of the study of social ills, except where such behaviour is related to prescription and other mood altering medication being doled out like M&Ms at Halloween.
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Reason.com by Brian Doherty Apr. 20, 2018

CDC, in Surveys It Never Bothered Making Public, Provides More Evidence that Plenty of Americans Innocently Defend Themselves with Guns

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,313107.msg1663649.html#msg1663649

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Some related links:

CDC Study: Use of Firearms for Self-Defense is ‘Important Crime Deterrent’
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent
July 17, 2013

...The Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council released the results of their research through the CDC last month. Researchers compiled data from previous studies in order to guide future research on gun violence, noting that “almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year.”...

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Defensive Gun Use Is Not a Myth
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/02/defensive-gun-ownership-gary-kleck-response-115082
By GARY KLECK February 17, 2015
« Last Edit: April 23, 2018, 08:26:57 pm by thackney »
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What? no words from the resident liberal?

Give him time.  He's busy putting illegal aliens on a pedestal.
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While the CDC probably does have a leftist axe to grind, there is also the standard bureaucratic practice of ignoring the invisible victims.

Over at that other alphabet agency known as the FDA, they are usually very, very slow to license new drugs, because they are far more sensitive to the people sickened by a "bad drug" than they are to the unknown number of people who are sickened by "no drug at all."  Hence, they'll sit on a new treatment for unnecessary years, while Europe had already proven a drug's efficacy and safety.

The same kind of bureaucrats run the asylum at CDC.  People killed by perps with guns are a lot easier to count than the number of crimes prevented by them.  It makes it easy to hide the results of the study that is under discussion in this story.
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Rush: CDC Tries to Bury Report on Defensive Gun Uses
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2018, 12:15:01 am »

CDC Tries to Bury Report on Defensive Gun Uses

Apr 23, 2018




RUSH: There is an unpublished — and it’s typical — an unpublished study from the Centers for Disease Control that confirms over two million annual defensive gun uses, meaning two million times a year people use guns to defend themselves.

And of course it’s unpublished. CDC figures this does not further the leftist agenda, so they keep it secret, but it has been uncovered.

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018/04/23/cdc-tries-bury-report-defensive-gun-uses/
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