Author Topic: Valerie Plame's husband calls Trump 'vile and despicable' after Libby pardon  (Read 2672 times)

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I didn't imply.  I stated that Trump has a problem with corruption and dishonesty.

We don't disagree about how vile and despicable the left is.

And I don't feel like explaining it further.

Thanks for letting it go.  (This thread is about Valerie Plame).

Lol.....

must I?   

The left has been looking for anything to pin on him re: that "corruption and dishonesty" for over a year now.  You would think that they would have found something by now.  Right?

Trump made the right call on pardoning Libby.   That idiot GWB should have, but by then he had been compromised, good & plenty. 

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Except that there was no there there with he Bush administration, so they had to create it out of whole cloth.

That remains to be seen with Trump, since corruption is part of his illustrious past, and honesty is not part of his bizarre present.

Did your research into Trump’s illustrious past and his bizarre present uncover the nature of this corruption. Maybe you’d like to share an example?

Or do you make stuff up out of whole cloth as you go along?

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Except that there was no there there with he Bush administration, so they had to create it out of whole cloth.

That remains to be seen with Trump, since corruption is part of his illustrious past, and honesty is not part of his bizarre present.

I think there are other factors, I was a big Bush supporter, Obama withdrew troops from Iraq, ISIS rose, many people got killed. President Trump has salvaged that situation, ISIS for all intents is defeated, sure, they are still there.  I'm grateful for Trump every day, with the way the media is, they pilloried Bush over Iraq and it was really looking like we wouldn't see a Republican in office for a long time. I know someone who was seriously sickened by the burn pits in Iraq.

You have to look at whether your glass is half-empty or half- full.

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Did your research into Trump’s illustrious past and his bizarre present uncover the nature of this corruption. Maybe you’d like to share an example?

Or do you make stuff up out of whole cloth as you go along?

You mean besides Trump publicly bragging about buying politicians to do his bidding?

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You mean besides Trump publicly bragging about buying politicians to do his bidding?

By the standard you're using against the President, so do you.

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You mean besides Trump publicly bragging about buying politicians to do his bidding?

You mean his truthfulness about a corrupt system politicians have setup for themselves, that we all know they play?

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By the standard you're using against the President, so do you.

Really. Care to provide any examples?

So what Trump was bragging about everyone does... Why did he brag about it then if it was nothing special?

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You mean his truthfulness about a corrupt system politicians have setup for themselves, that we all know they play?

Believe it or not, not everyone plays the corruption game to get ahead. Some people will do with a little less and not dirty themselves.

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Lol.....

must I?   

The left has been looking for anything to pin on him re: that "corruption and dishonesty" for over a year now.  You would think that they would have found something by now.  Right?

Trump made the right call on pardoning Libby.   That idiot GWB should have, but by then he had been compromised, good & plenty.

I agree with Trump's pardon, and agree that Bush should have done so.   I disagree that it was because he was an "idiot," but that's for another thread, and I will not go there.

Now are you satisfied that you have made all the points with which I have not disagreed?

Because if you have, and we are in full agreement, I'm not sure why you choose to continue the discussion.
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Did your research into Trump’s illustrious past and his bizarre present uncover the nature of this corruption. Maybe you’d like to share an example?

Or do you make stuff up out of whole cloth as you go along?

I make nothing up.   There is plenty of evidence of corruption that is well documented and has been discussed thoroughly on this forum.

The fact that you choose not to believe the evidence is not my concern.

I would, however, appreciate it if you would not accuse me of dishonesty because I don't share your "Trump is perfect" ideology.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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I agree with Trump's pardon, and agree that Bush should have done so.   I disagree that it was because he was an "idiot," but that's for another thread, and I will not go there.

Now are you satisfied that you have made all the points with which I have not disagreed?

Because if you have, and we are in full agreement, I'm not sure why you choose to continue the discussion.

Satisfied?  This isn't about satisfaction.  It's about sharing and voicing one's opinion.  I choose to continue the discussion because this happens to be a discussion forum for politics....lol.  Now..
if you would prefer that I refrain from further addressing you....

just say the word. 
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Satisfied?  This isn't about satisfaction.  It's about sharing and voicing one's opinion.  I choose to continue the discussion because this happens to be a discussion forum for politics....lol.  Now..
if you would prefer that I refrain from further addressing you....

just say the word.

Wow.  You're in the mood to argue, aren't you?

Sorry, but I'm not.

We agree.   Nothing more to discuss. 

Go on talking as much as you like.   I ain't stopping you.....   *****rollingeyes*****
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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Wow.  You're in the mood to argue, aren't you?

Sorry, but I'm not.

We agree.   Nothing more to discuss. 

Go on talking as much as you like.   I ain't stopping you.....   *****rollingeyes*****

You have a very low threshold for what you consider to be an "argument".    I'm not the one "in the mood" here....lolol.

Anyway....

I would roll my eyes backatcha but I'm not in an eye-rolling mood.   :whistle:
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Joe Wilson - the man who outed his own wife as an undercover CIA agent.
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You have a very low threshold for what you consider to be an "argument".    I'm not the one "in the mood" here....lolol.

Anyway....

I would roll my eyes backatcha but I'm not in an eye-rolling mood.   :whistle:

Her son in law died a few days ago.

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Her son in law died a few days ago.

Seven time seventy.

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It's funny to me that Wilson is called "Valerie Plame's husband" in the headline -- didn't refer to him by his name.  I guess between him and his wife, she's the dominant one and Wilson is all but invisible.

How emasculating!

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It's funny to me that Wilson is called "Valerie Plame's husband" in the headline -- didn't refer to him by his name.  I guess between him and his wife, she's the dominant one and Wilson is all but invisible.

How emasculating!


They gave him the Chad Lowe treatment.  He was always either Hilary Swank’s husband or Rob’s brother.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.