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The Federalist By Benjamin R. Dierker 3/30/2018

In a properly functioning America like the Founders envisioned, a repeal of the Second Amendment would be virtually meaningless.


There is no legal right to own a firearm in the United States. The Constitution does not give citizens the right to own weapons, and no legal or historical arguments support the idea that it does. Instead, a much deeper and more important philosophy provides for gun ownership: natural rights. These rights are not given, but protected. Not to expand citizens’ rights, but to limit government’s power.

Gun ownership is so integral to the United States’ DNA because armed Americans overthrew the world’s most powerful military empire using guns. The freest, most prosperous nation in human history, and a good deal of prosperity around the globe, owes its origin to guns. But the issue is far deeper than guns; it is about rights.

In a properly functioning America like the Founders envisioned, a repeal of the Second Amendment would be virtually meaningless. The right existed already; the Constitution merely secures it. Unfortunately, our society has loosened its grasp on natural rights philosophy and devolved into dependency on government-sanctioned rules. Today, however, even unambiguous text is under scrutiny by Democrats as prominent as former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens.

The Distinction Between Natural and Legal Rights

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Re: Why It Shouldn’t Matter If We Repeal The Second Amendment
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2018, 07:17:27 pm »
Well, according to our 'betters' who consider themselves far more reasonable and intelligent than we little extremists - our Rights  must be first 'codified' by a court of men or legislature, outlining the limits and the licensing and insurance one must have before being permitted to exercise that 'natural right' that they essentially argue is not a right at all, but a government-granted privilege.

They argue that all 'rights' are not absolute, and that all of them are open for *reasonable regulation*.  Even to the point of eradicating the right for most, save a very wealthy and chosen few who are permitted to exercise said 'right' because government grants them that privilege, while denies the rest of us that privilege to exercise a 'right'.
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Re: Why It Shouldn’t Matter If We Repeal The Second Amendment
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2018, 07:27:33 pm »
Well, according to our 'betters' who consider themselves far more reasonable and intelligent than we little extremists - our Rights  must be first 'codified' by a court of men or legislature, outlining the limits and the licensing and insurance one must have before being permitted to exercise that 'natural right' that they essentially argue is not a right at all, but a government-granted privilege.

They argue that all 'rights' are not absolute, and that all of them are open for *reasonable regulation*.  Even to the point of eradicating the right for most, save a very wealthy and chosen few who are permitted to exercise said 'right' because government grants them that privilege, while denies the rest of us that privilege to exercise a 'right'.

This is why I would not want to see a rewrite of the 2nd.  The kind of person to whom you refer would be the kind who would be put in charge of the rewrite.  The purpose of this would be two-fold:  To make the language impossible to understand by the citizen-subjects, and to ensure the inclusion of the loopholes necessary to allow the leftist-enabled government to dismember the God-given right to self-protection in the courts of men.

I will not comply with edicts meant to usurp my natural rights. 
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Re: Why It Shouldn’t Matter If We Repeal The Second Amendment
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2018, 09:59:01 pm »
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In a properly functioning America like the Founders envisioned, a repeal of the Second Amendment would be virtually meaningless. The right existed already; the Constitution merely secures it.

Exactly!

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Re: Why It Shouldn’t Matter If We Repeal The Second Amendment
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2018, 11:02:46 pm »
"In a properly functioning America like the Founders envisioned, a repeal of the Second Amendment would be virtually meaningless. The right existed already; the Constitution merely secures it."

Think so?
Then, get rid of it.
And watch how quickly those "God given" rights...   disappear.

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Re: Why It Shouldn’t Matter If We Repeal The Second Amendment
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2018, 11:58:20 pm »
"In a properly functioning America like the Founders envisioned, a repeal of the Second Amendment would be virtually meaningless. The right existed already; the Constitution merely secures it."

Think so?
Then, get rid of it.
And watch how quickly those "God given" rights...   disappear.
@Fishrrman
Yeah...you kinda totally missed the point...and if I had to guess, didn’t  read the article.
And I quote:
“In a properly functioning America like the Founders envisioned...”
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