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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2018, 10:49:52 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on March 29, 2018, 09:22:17 pm
Well, this begs the question of what happened to all the people that I thought were going to hell or deserved to go..... :smokin:
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Every church on earth is run by humans.  Humans screw up.  No human is the church.  Many try to denigrate a church based on human error, which happens all the time.  So, the Pope is not the church; he is a human elected to the highest office in the church. Nothing he says affects my membership in the Catholic Church - my faith does not depend on him.

He could come forth and directly speak to these quotes of his and settle the matter, but he appears to be relying on the spokesman of the church to do that, which was not a definitive answer as to whether he said it or not.  Leaving this hanging does not serve him well.  This is his problem to handle and has nothing to do with my going to church this Easter.

As for hell:  Jesus says it is there and I believe Him rather than the human Pope.  Perhaps the human Pope should read the New Testament if he truly thinks there is no hell.  *mad* *mad*
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2018, 10:58:20 pm »
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If he actually said this and meant it, the logical corollary would be that there is no heaven as well. If there is no heaven and no hell, then there is no God to worry about and the whole thing is pointless.


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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2018, 11:01:23 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on March 29, 2018, 10:58:20 pm


Well,SOME people might say that living a just life is reward enough.

Go to hell........I mean go to Rochester.
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2018, 11:04:21 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 29, 2018, 11:01:23 pm
Go to hell........I mean go to Rochester.

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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2018, 11:10:39 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 29, 2018, 09:47:24 pm
The pope just ruined another good weekend.  Why even bother if you can't get whiskey bent and hell bound.  It just ain't the same.

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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #55 on: March 30, 2018, 01:02:28 am »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 29, 2018, 09:17:48 pm
Lets see.  Rome is located at 41.9028° N, 12.4964° E...  Based on the target zone that is at the high end of the  North Latitude range for a possible hit.     If it does strike the Vatican..... I think we could chalk it up as an act of God!

I know, right? Not impossible, just highly improbable... exactly the kind of "mysterious way" He seems to prefer doing his work in...
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #56 on: March 30, 2018, 01:17:06 am »
Quote from: Ghost Bear on March 30, 2018, 01:02:28 am
I know, right? Not impossible, just highly improbable... exactly the kind of "mysterious way" He seems to prefer doing his work in...

Yep.  Not to mention it would be a Hell of a way to go.    :smokin:
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #57 on: March 30, 2018, 01:24:43 am »
Quote from: mountaineer on March 29, 2018, 07:31:57 pm
I'll say only that there are far too many Protestants who would agree with him.

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And none of them agrees with Jesus.
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #58 on: March 30, 2018, 01:28:21 am »
What disturbs me on this is why does the Pope of the Church associate with a known atheist.

The Bible speaks ill of those who make choices to do that.

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?  2 Corinthians 6:14
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #59 on: March 30, 2018, 01:30:32 am »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on March 30, 2018, 01:28:21 am
What disturbs me on this is why does the Pope of the Church associate with a known atheist.

The Bible speaks ill of those who make choices to do that.

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?  2 Corinthians 6:14

That's only one of several disturbing things.
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #60 on: March 30, 2018, 01:37:22 am »
Quote from: Sanguine on March 30, 2018, 01:30:32 am
That's only one of several disturbing things.

Mrs. Liberty, a lifelong Catholic, tells me the question, "Is the Pope Catholic?" can no longer be answered in the affirmative.
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #61 on: March 30, 2018, 01:43:14 am »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on March 30, 2018, 01:28:21 am
What disturbs me on this is why does the Pope of the Church associate with a known atheist.


He meets with and praises Muslims all the time and they are torturing, raping, murdering, and enslaving Christians all over the world. Meeting with an atheist is a notch down from his normal behavior.
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #62 on: March 30, 2018, 01:44:17 am »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 30, 2018, 01:17:06 am
Yep.  Not to mention it would be a Hell of a way to go.    :smokin:

Good job swinging the conversation back on topic!  888high58888
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #63 on: March 30, 2018, 03:35:21 am »
Quote from: 240B on March 29, 2018, 08:21:50 pm
The Hebrew word for hell is גֵיהִנוֹם (gehenom). The Hebrew word for a grave is קבר (kevar).

Sheol apparently is 'the underworld' which could be translated to hell, but more of the Greek version of hell.

I was always taught Jews don't believe in Heck, but I personally do.
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #64 on: March 30, 2018, 04:03:51 am »
Quote from: Freya on March 30, 2018, 03:35:21 am
I was always taught Jews don't believe in Heck, but I personally do.

@Freya, I'm not sure where that came from because there are references in the Torah.
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #65 on: March 30, 2018, 04:07:15 am »
Quote from: Sanguine on March 30, 2018, 04:03:51 am
@Freya, I'm not sure where that came from because there are references in the Torah.

Like I said, I don't know either.

Sometimes though I think hell is Earth. Sorry, going through a bad patch. I mean no disrespect to anyone. 
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #66 on: March 30, 2018, 04:10:10 am »
Quote from: Freya on March 30, 2018, 04:07:15 am
Like I said, I don't know either.

Sometimes though I think hell is Earth. Sorry, going through a bad patch. I mean no disrespect to anyone.

Apparently I'm insensitive as heck or something, because I didn't see any disrespect, dearest....

I want nothing but the best for you, and I hope things get better for you soon... :0001:
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #67 on: March 30, 2018, 04:10:33 am »
Quote from: Freya on March 30, 2018, 04:07:15 am
Like I said, I don't know either.

Sometimes though I think hell is Earth. Sorry, going through a bad patch. I mean no disrespect to anyone.

It does seem that way sometimes.  Other times, not at all.  I hope things improve for you.  No, I hope you improve things.  ^-^
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #68 on: March 30, 2018, 04:12:03 am »
Quote from: Sanguine on March 30, 2018, 04:03:51 am
@Freya, I'm not sure where that came from because there are references in the Torah.


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« Reply #69 on: March 30, 2018, 04:12:18 am »
Quote from: Sanguine on March 30, 2018, 04:10:33 am
It does seem that way sometimes.  Other times, not at all.  I hope things improve for you.  No, I hope you improve things.  ^-^

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It's stressing the whole family out. We are all fighting with each other. No biggie.
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #70 on: March 30, 2018, 04:19:35 am »
Well since there is no hell, did Pope Frank have any new edicts on the pill?
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #71 on: March 30, 2018, 04:23:31 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 29, 2018, 07:37:25 pm
Didn't you hear the Pontiff? There is no Catholic faith anymore. It's an arm of the social justice movement now.

 

Good, now there's no reason not to tax the Church.
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #72 on: March 30, 2018, 04:27:02 am »
Quote from: Blizzardnh on March 29, 2018, 09:11:09 pm
The pope never met my ex wife.

"I was MARRIED for TWO ........... YEARS! Hell would be like Club Med!"


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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #73 on: March 30, 2018, 04:27:52 am »
Quote from: dfwgator on March 30, 2018, 04:23:31 am
Good, now there's no reason not to tax the Church.

Great idea except they aren't filling the pews like they used to and they had a spot of legal bother a few years back so there may not be too much cash to tax. Then again, Pope Frank may move the Vatican to the US because of Trumps pro business tax cuts, so we may get a boost in the choir boy industry that has been hit hard.
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Re: Pope Francis: 'There Is No Hell'
« Reply #74 on: March 30, 2018, 04:43:38 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 30, 2018, 04:27:52 am
Great idea except they aren't filling the pews like they used to and they had a spot of legal bother a few years back so there may not be too much cash to tax. Then again, Pope Frank may move the Vatican to the US because of Trumps pro business tax cuts, so we may get a boost in the choir boy industry that has been hit hard.

Hitting on choir boys?

Where have I heard that before...
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