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Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« on: March 28, 2018, 10:14:37 pm »
Market Watch
Brent Kendall
Mar. 28, 2018

WASHINGTON — A federal judge refused Wednesday to dismiss a lawsuit alleging President Donald Trump is violating the Constitution because his businesses are benefiting from his presidency, the first ruling to find that a litigant can sue the president on the issue.

The ruling by U.S. District Judge Peter Messitte found the state of Maryland and the District of Columbia had standing to bring claims against Trump, who hasn’t divested his business holdings. The plaintiffs allege Trump is violating constitutional clauses that prohibit the president from receiving emoluments — things of value — from foreign or state governments.

More... https://www.marketwatch.com/story/judge-says-lawsuit-accusing-trump-of-violating-constitution-can-proceed-2018-03-28
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2018, 10:17:33 pm »
All you need to know about this creep in a black robe....

On August 6, 1993, Messitte was nominated by President Bill Clinton to a seat on the United States District Court for the District of Maryland vacated by Joseph C. Howard, Sr. Messitte was confirmed by the United States Senate on October 18, 1993, and received his commission on October 20, 1993. He assumed senior status on September 1, 2008.
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2018, 10:19:14 pm »
I've always felt this lawsuit was a backdoor attempt to get at his tax returns.
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2018, 10:39:34 pm »
Quote from: edpc on March 28, 2018, 10:19:14 pm
I've always felt this lawsuit was a backdoor attempt to get at his tax returns.

The returns he said he was gong to release before he changed his mind?
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2018, 11:23:26 pm »
They'd better be very careful about this kind of stuff.  Just think of all the things that government officials could be sued for for being unconstitutional. 
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2018, 11:29:03 pm »
Quote from: DB on March 28, 2018, 10:39:34 pm
The returns he said he was gong to release before he changed his mind?

Meh....  :shrug: don't care.
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2018, 11:31:12 pm »
Quote from: Fantom on March 28, 2018, 11:29:03 pm
Meh....  :shrug: don't care.

Right... After so many lies, what's another one...
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2018, 11:40:19 pm »
Quote from: DB on March 28, 2018, 10:39:34 pm
The returns he said he was gong to release before he changed his mind?


Yes, those....under never ending audit.  Nobody ever seriously believed he would and they took glee in the fact he never did, since it made the MSM crazy.  There’s no legal requirement for him to do so, therefore, I’m not terribly worried about it.  I have no doubt they would show he’s not worth anywhere near the $10B he claimed in the primary.  I do, however, object to the blatantly transparent tactic to get them released.
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2018, 11:44:14 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 28, 2018, 10:17:33 pm
All you need to know about this creep in a black robe....

On August 6, 1993, Messitte was nominated by President Bill Clinton to a seat on the United States District Court for the District of Maryland vacated by Joseph C. Howard, Sr. Messitte was confirmed by the United States Senate on October 18, 1993, and received his commission on October 20, 1993. He assumed senior status on September 1, 2008.

Seems to be lots of creeps in black robes.
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2018, 11:46:08 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on March 28, 2018, 11:44:14 pm
Seems to be lots of creeps in black robes.

Especially since they are nude under them.
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2018, 11:55:05 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 28, 2018, 11:46:08 pm
Especially since they are nude under them.

Not a visual I need going into a courtroom!   :silly:
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2018, 12:08:58 am »
Quote from: DB on March 28, 2018, 11:31:12 pm
Right... After so many lies, what's another one...

I do not care because it is none of our business. It is not a requirement in our Constitution.

What is a requirement is being a US citizen with certain other requirements. A birth certificate is something that is our business. Get back to me when obama produces a real one.
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2018, 12:14:04 am »
Quote from: libertybele on March 28, 2018, 11:55:05 pm
Not a visual I need going into a courtroom!   :silly:

My speech instructor in school destroyed my career as a public speaker. I was always nevoust to give a speech, he said..."When you go out, stand in front of the podium and visualize everyone sitting out there naked."

Now I cannot give a speech where I do not laugh hysterically...."Oh look, that looks like a penis...only smaller... "  well you get the problem now.
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2018, 12:22:14 am »
Quote from: DB on March 28, 2018, 11:31:12 pm
Right... After so many lies, what's another one...

Fantom is right, it really doesn't matter now.  When it did matter was in the candidate selection process.  And, you remember how that went.
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2018, 12:49:19 am »
Quote from: Sanguine on March 28, 2018, 11:23:26 pm
They'd better be very careful about this kind of stuff.  Just think of all the things that government officials could be sued for for being unconstitutional.


Oh Noes!

Do you mean to say there's actually something that could make becoming a Government Official LESS ATTRACTIVE?

We could end up without Enough of these lying, thieving woodpeckers to keep robbing us and kicking us back into line?
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2018, 01:40:12 am »
I thought it was a bit funny, the article I read said that most of the complaint was thrown out,
those portions allegedly filed by DC and MD, due to a lack of standing.  What remains is complaints
by DC hotels apparently, complaining that the Trump International Hotel in DC is the most often chosen
Hotel by Foreign Diplomats, over their establishments.   
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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2018, 02:45:30 am »
Quote from: WilliamVA on March 29, 2018, 01:40:12 am
I thought it was a bit funny, the article I read said that most of the complaint was thrown out,
those portions allegedly filed by DC and MD, due to a lack of standing.  What remains is complaints
by DC hotels apparently, complaining that the Trump International Hotel in DC is the most often chosen
Hotel by Foreign Diplomats, over their establishments.


Thanks. Doesn't look like much of a complaint.

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Re: Judge says lawsuit accusing Trump of violating Constitution can proceed
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2018, 03:32:46 am »
Quote from: WilliamVA on March 29, 2018, 01:40:12 am
I thought it was a bit funny, the article I read said that most of the complaint was thrown out,
those portions allegedly filed by DC and MD, due to a lack of standing.  What remains is complaints
by DC hotels apparently, complaining that the Trump International Hotel in DC is the most often chosen
Hotel by Foreign Diplomats, over their establishments.


Oh Dear Lord!  :rolling: They want to impeach him for having a more attractive hotel than his competitors?

What does this come under? Unfairly Restraining Trade?

Unequal distribution of income is now (so long as it's Trump) an impeachable offense?
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