Author Topic: Trump to sign spending bill (Live Signing Event at 1PM EST) (Read 16669 times)

edpc · « **Reply #50 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:08:08 pm »

This is what happens when someone promises to drain the swamp and says:

"No one knows the system better than me, which is why I alone can fix it."

Then, after getting elected, they become part of it.....

Jan 7, 2018 10:38 AM EDT

THURMONT, Md. â€” President Donald Trump says heâ€™s done campaigning for insurgents challenging incumbent Republican members of Congress.

Trump told reporters after meeting GOP House and Senate leaders at Camp David on Saturday that heâ€™s planning a robust schedule of campaigning for the 2018 midterm elections and that includes involvement in the Republican primaries. Heâ€™ll campaign for incumbents, he said, and â€œanybody else that has my kind of thinking.â€

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-washes-his-hands-of-insurgency-against-gop-incumbents

GrouchoTex · « **Reply #51 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:08:09 pm »

Quote from: AbaraXas on March 23, 2018, 06:02:39 pm

Truthful Hyperbole - The Art of the Deal, Page 402

Yep, in a nutshell, it says, basically "tell the people what they want to hear".

mystery-ak · « **Reply #52 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:08:22 pm »

Rush..I'm not liking this...*I feel like I just saw Trump go back up the escalator*

GrouchoTex · « **Reply #53 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:09:21 pm »

Quote from: LauraTXNM on March 23, 2018, 06:07:57 pm

I'll look for the list again, but some Ds like Manchin, McCaskell took the cover to vote Nay.

You're right, I corrected it on post #40

Frank Cannon · « **Reply #54 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:09:59 pm »

Quote from: GrouchoTex on March 23, 2018, 06:08:09 pm

Yep, in a nutshell, it says, basically "tell the people what they want to hear".

Well that should scare you because all of DC thinks that run away spending is what people want to hear from looking at the budget. There is no other way to look at it.

InHeavenThereIsNoBeer · « **Reply #55 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:11:11 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on March 23, 2018, 05:41:19 pm

All he is talking about is Defense...tell us what else is in the Bill..like funding PP...

I've had it!!!

Rand Paul's comments on the first 500 or so pages:

http://theantimedia.org/rand-paul-live-tweeting-spending-bill/

DB · « **Reply #56 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:14:28 pm »

Trump got what he wanted when he got your vote. He doesn't need it anymore. It was simply a targeted sales pitch to take advantage of the rage at Obama's legacy. He knew he hit gold when he started talking about illegal immigration and people perked up to listen in the primary - never mind that it contradicted what he said 4 years earlier.

Now he's won the most exclusive prize of them all, being in the history books as the 45th President of the United States. The last stop for a man who has "everything". There's no further incentives to offer to motivate him to fulfill his promises.

Too late to rethink it now.

LauraTXNM · « **Reply #57 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:14:53 pm »

Quote from: GrouchoTex on March 23, 2018, 06:09:21 pm

You're right, I corrected it on post #40

Sorry, @GrouchoTex!

Stevensr123 · « **Reply #58 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:15:23 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on March 23, 2018, 05:54:15 pm

I have no problem with anything related to National Defense...that is all Trump talked about he didn't mention what else was in the Bill.

As Rush just said *Trumps agenda just got gutted*

why though?

You guys spend 3x as mch as most nations, and hundreds of billions goes on just administration, "losing it" or failed projects. The military shouldn't have a blank check. It seems your politicians use it as a bullet point and your generals don't even think they need that much!

For private comapanies it seems like the biggest welfare programs going!

240B · « **Reply #59 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:15:59 pm »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 23, 2018, 06:07:18 pm

Well Donny is about to find out about the lessons from 30 years ago when a dude said "Read my lips.....".

That's funny. That exact thought came to me as well. It is funny thinking about something and then to see my very thoughts in writing. That says to me that there must be a lot more people thinking the same thing.

GrouchoTex · « **Reply #60 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:16:56 pm »

Quote from: LauraTXNM on March 23, 2018, 06:14:53 pm

Sorry, @GrouchoTex!

No worries, I should remember to clean off my eyeglasses before I start posting things.

DB · « **Reply #61 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:18:28 pm »

Quote from: 240B on March 23, 2018, 06:15:59 pm

That's funny. That exact thought came to me as well. It is funny thinking about something and then to see my very thoughts in writing. That says to me that there must be a lot more people thinking the same thing.

That's assuming Trump really cares.

edpc · « **Reply #62 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:20:51 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on March 23, 2018, 06:08:22 pm

Rush..I'm not liking this...*I feel like I just saw Trump go back up the escalator*

That mushroom cloud to the east is Levin melting down.

WingNot · « **Reply #63 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:23:56 pm »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 23, 2018, 06:07:18 pm

Well Donny is about to find out about the lessons from 30 years ago when a dude said "Read my lips.....".

Amen
One and done...Hell, he might even not get one done.

kevindavis007 · « **Reply #64 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:24:43 pm »

Maybe he should be spending less time on Twitter and more time taking this job seriously he would had the wall funded.

ABX · « **Reply #65 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:24:51 pm »

Quote from: Stevensr123 on March 23, 2018, 06:15:23 pm

why though?

You guys spend 3x as mch as most nations, and hundreds of billions goes on just administration, "losing it" or failed projects. The military shouldn't have a blank check. It seems your politicians use it as a bullet point and your generals don't even think they need that much!

For private comapanies it seems like the biggest welfare programs going!

That's going to have to be an elephant in the room we will have to face some day.

Yes, National Defense is and will be the #1 priority of the federal government. But even at the founding they knew this could get out of hand which is why they greatly limited budgeting for military action to have set timeframes.

There is a point where even the military will need to be told they need to become efficient. There is no reason, as technology progresses and everything else becomes cheaper and better, that military spending needs to continue to skyrocket and it is verboten to even discuss efficiencies in that.

240B · « **Reply #66 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:25:18 pm »

Quote from: DB on March 23, 2018, 06:18:28 pm

That's assuming Trump really cares.

I agree. I'm not sure that Trump is committed to a second term in office. Guys like him go after what they want with great skill and enthusiasm. But they get bored easily. Once they achieve a goal, it becomes passe' and devalued to them. "Been there, done that, and I even bought the tee shirt."

ABX · « **Reply #67 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:25:32 pm »

Quote from: kevindavis on March 23, 2018, 06:24:43 pm

Maybe he should be spending less time on Twitter and more time taking this job seriously he would had the wall funded.

He is too busy 'art of the dealing' with the public over his brand image.

Frank Cannon · « **Reply #68 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:27:45 pm »

Quote from: Wingnut on March 23, 2018, 06:23:56 pm

Amen
One and done...Hell, he might even not get one done.

I don't know. Donny is letting the GOP spend all the money they ever dreamed of. They get to be the Rats they always wanted to be. They will circle the wagons against impeachment so they get to keep doing these budgets.

edpc · « **Reply #69 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:28:33 pm »

Quote from: Stevensr123 on March 23, 2018, 06:15:23 pm

Why though?

You guys spend 3x as mch as most nations, and hundreds of billions goes on just administration, "losing it" or failed projects. The military shouldn't have a blank check. It seems your politicians use it as a bullet point and your generals don't even think they need that much!

For private comapanies it seems like the biggest welfare programs going!

The rest of the world benefits greatly from tech that started off as US military funded projects - ARPANET, for instance.

WingNot · « **Reply #70 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:29:36 pm »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 23, 2018, 06:27:45 pm

I don't know. Donny is letting the GOP spend all the money they ever dreamed of. They get to be the Rats they always wanted to be. They will circle the wagons against impeachment so they get to keep doing these budgets.

So, they have a Fat Daddy in the White House to pump whenever they need too! What a party.

the_doc · « **Reply #71 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:30:40 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on March 23, 2018, 05:35:01 pm

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Trump: I'll sign this piece of shit bill, but it's not my fault. Congress trapped me into signing it. This is a horrible bill, and I'll never get snookered into signing something like this again.

Smh. And most of his supporters will believe him.

I am not a Trumper. But I actually do believe him this time around. I strongly suspect that POTUS has a rope-a-dope device up his sleeve.

edpc · « **Reply #72 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:34:23 pm »

Quote from: Wingnut on March 23, 2018, 06:23:56 pm

Amen
One and done...Hell, he might even not get one done.

Previously, I had said, after a couple of years clashing with Congress, he'd get fed up and pull a Palin, turning things over to Pence. I was half kidding about that. Now, with thing like this, the Mueller probe, and internal staff conflict, who knows?

GrouchoTex · « **Reply #73 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:35:59 pm »

From what little I heard of the news conference, Trump said he had to sign it.
He had no choice.

The Democrats made him do it.

He had to to go along with the social spending to get the Military spending he wanted.

A mirror image of the Dems battle cry "the Republicans made me do it."
They'd say they had to go along with the Military spending, to get the social programs, "for the children".

No one wants to be against children or the military, right?

I am sure glad it's Friday.
Somewhere out there, there is a beer with my name on it.

heaven help us all.

DB · « **Reply #74 on:** March 23, 2018, 06:37:20 pm »

Winning!