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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2018, 01:29:03 am »
Quote from: RoosGirl on March 19, 2018, 01:24:34 am
It ain't 50 and 60 year olds wandering around an assisted living facility.

No, it isn't.

Still a non seq.

MDs get them started. Then MDs get cold feet and quit being so accommodating with prescriptions.

Patient's got a monkey, an itch but no script. That's when they switch to heroin.
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2018, 01:30:21 am »
Quote from: To-Whose-Benefit? on March 19, 2018, 01:29:03 am
No, it isn't.

Still a non seq.

MDs get them started. Then MDs get cold feet and quit being so accommodating with prescriptions.

Patient's got a monkey, an itch but no script. That's when they switch to heroin.

Yep it is the Doctors Fault.  They are evil. 
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2018, 01:37:18 am »
Quote from: To-Whose-Benefit? on March 19, 2018, 01:29:03 am
No, it isn't.

Still a non seq.

MDs get them started. Then MDs get cold feet and quit being so accommodating with prescriptions.

Patient's got a monkey, an itch but no script. That's when they switch to heroin.

Perhaps is has something to do with "patients" doctor shopping for what they want. There also appears to be a correlation between this and Obamacare. Obamacare may well have made those drugs more affordable to those who otherwise couldn't have got them.
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2018, 01:39:35 am »
Quote from: DB on March 19, 2018, 01:37:18 am
Perhaps is has something to do with "patients" doctor shopping for what they want. There also appears to be a correlation between this and Obamacare. Obamacare may well have made those drugs more affordable to those who otherwise couldn't have got them.

Obama care had nothing to do with it. 
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2018, 01:39:59 am »
Quote from: DB on March 19, 2018, 01:37:18 am
Perhaps is has something to do with "patients" doctor shopping for what they want.


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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2018, 01:40:59 am »
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2018, 01:44:02 am »
Quote from: DB on March 19, 2018, 01:40:59 am
Smack!

And that proves your Obama Care postulate?   Please try again for the poor people.
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2018, 01:50:52 am »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 19, 2018, 01:44:02 am
And that proves your Obama Care postulate?   Please try again for the poor people.

That was the doctor shopping part...

Here's the other part: https://fee.org/articles/did-obamacare-make-the-opioid-crisis-worse/

Though it says only to a degree...
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2018, 01:57:43 am »
Quote from: DB on March 19, 2018, 01:50:52 am
That was the doctor shopping part...

Here's the other part: https://fee.org/articles/did-obamacare-make-the-opioid-crisis-worse/

Though it says only to a degree...

I'll look at that link later..actually..I probably wont.
In the absence of reading that I will say it comes down to Personal accountability.
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2018, 02:04:50 am »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 19, 2018, 01:57:43 am
I'll look at that link later..actually..I probably wont.
In the absence of reading that I will say it comes down to Personal accountability.

Yes, but what happens when you give most hobos money? What do they buy with it?
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2018, 02:06:30 am »
Quote from: DB on March 19, 2018, 02:04:50 am
Yes, but what happens when you give most hobos money? What do they buy with it?

A baloney samitch and a hooker?
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2018, 02:08:00 am »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 19, 2018, 02:06:30 am
A baloney samitch and a hooker?

Do hookers do hobos?
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2018, 02:09:05 am »
Quote from: DB on March 19, 2018, 02:04:50 am
Yes, but what happens when you give most hobos money? What do they buy with it?


Hotdogs. I’ve seen Conjunction Junction.




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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2018, 02:11:56 am »
Quote from: DB on March 19, 2018, 02:08:00 am
Do hookers do hobos?

Like anything in a capitalistic society...it Depends on if they can agree on a price.
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2018, 02:20:12 am »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 19, 2018, 01:30:21 am
Yep it is the Doctors Fault.  They are evil.

Wait, I thought @RoosGirl was evil. I’m so confused!
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2018, 02:20:36 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 19, 2018, 12:23:59 am
This is a manufactured issue that most people don't care about. So some junkie OD's and dies? Who gives a shit. Self correcting problem.

Gee Frank, you're all heart.  Those 'junkies' are someone's mother, father, brother, sister, husband, wife, etc.  Addiction affects families and is a disease.
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2018, 02:28:33 am »
Quote from: goodwithagun on March 19, 2018, 02:20:12 am
Wait, I thought @RoosGirl was evil.

She is just drawn that way.
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2018, 02:30:15 am »
Quote from: DB on March 19, 2018, 01:37:18 am
Perhaps is has something to do with "patients" doctor shopping for what they want. There also appears to be a correlation between this and Obamacare. Obamacare may well have made those drugs more affordable to those who otherwise couldn't have got them.

There are unscrupulous doctors who run 'pill mills'.  They basically see patients for a set amount of money on a regular basis, charge them for an appointment and write them a scrip for some type of opioid.  Once that stops or the doctor gets caught, they turn to street drugs.  Aren't these doctors drug dealers also?
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2018, 02:52:54 am »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 19, 2018, 02:28:33 am
She is just drawn that way.

That was funny.
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2018, 04:10:19 am »
@mystery-ak

Dear friends who must have pain med to function, we are easy targets and here it is to stop our prescriptions:

"The plan includes three main elements: reducing the demand and overprescription of opioids...
The administration aims to cut opioid prescriptions by one-third within three years by implementing a “Safer Prescribing Plan.” This includes incentivizing states to move to a national database monitoring opioid prescriptions to help flag people requesting numerous prescriptions.

I get numerous prescriptions - do you?
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #46 on: March 19, 2018, 04:31:08 am »
Those of you who think docs can write as many prescriptions as they want for opioids don't know the process for getting these pills.  I have written about the process before.  The doc has to use a prescription pad given to him/her by the federal government.  Doc can't give a prescription unless the patient is sitting there with him/her - no call to a pharmacy for the pills is permitted.  I have to sign a federal paper in the doctor's office there before I can get the prescription from the doctor.  I have to hand carry the script to the pharmacy.  Pharmacy has to see me in person before I can get the script and they ask if I know how to take them.  Bob cannot pick them up for me.  It is only for a thirty day supply - cannot get one for more than a month.  Trump is going to see I get a prescription every month.  That is a continuous supply so I expect he will see I don't get the pills.  I'm sure that will solve the whole opioid problem. /sarcastic

I said to my doc one time that the check on these pills is ridiculous - I could take the whole bottle at one time.  He said that is not the problem - the problem is people getting the pills for a good reason but then selling them on the street.  I am not selling my pills but evidently the feds think I might so maybe I won't be able to get them.  9999hair out0000
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #47 on: March 19, 2018, 04:37:15 am »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 18, 2018, 11:19:20 pm
Retarded. How about executing rapists and child molestors?
The prison population takes care of some of that.
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2018, 11:45:47 am »
How did we get from "build a wall" and "lock her up"  to an elaborate plan to end a hyped up epidemic, a fauxpidemic if you will?
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Re: Trump to release opioid epidemic plan on Monday that includes death penalty
« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2018, 11:46:40 am »
The point is now moot. The media was lying. Fake news.
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