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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2018, 07:50:26 pm »
Have they blamed Governor Scott, yet?
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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2018, 07:51:24 pm »
Gov Scott is enroute to the site.   Guess we can expect some anti bridge legislation now.
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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2018, 08:00:29 pm »
Something similar happened in Baltimore years ago. The pedestrian bridge collapsed across I-695, during rush hour. A tractor-trailer carrying a backhoe was too tall. It struck a main support and brought the bridge down.  IIRC, the driver was foreign.
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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2018, 08:01:16 pm »
Quote from: thackney on March 15, 2018, 07:09:16 pm
I suspect the "one of a kind" may hold for a long time.  The finished version was supposed to include suspension cables not yet installed.



http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/west-miami-dade/article204506084.html

That explains a lot. Thank you. I wonder if unauthorized people were up on the incomplete/unsupported span checking out the view and overloaded it or if it simply failed on its own. You would have thought the supporting tower would have been one of the first things up and then both spans placed at the same time and supported until at least some of the upper cables were attached.
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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2018, 08:17:47 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 15, 2018, 06:55:24 pm
Miami/Dade.  Zimbabwe or Russia....  A distinction without a difference.

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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2018, 08:20:26 pm »
Quote from: DB on March 15, 2018, 08:01:16 pm
That explains a lot. Thank you. I wonder if unauthorized people were up on the incomplete/unsupported span checking out the view and overloaded it or if it simply failed on its own. You would have thought the supporting tower would have been one of the first things up and then both spans placed at the same time and supported until at least some of the upper cables were attached.

Why would they allow people to use the bridge if it isn't finished.  IF the project wasn't finished, that would mean that it shouldn't have passed a final inspection and certainly people shouldn't have been allowed to use it.
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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2018, 08:22:18 pm »
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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2018, 08:25:00 pm »
Quote from: thackney on March 15, 2018, 07:09:16 pm
I suspect the "one of a kind" may hold for a long time.  The finished version was supposed to include suspension cables not yet installed.



http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/west-miami-dade/article204506084.html

It sure looks very similar to this pedestrian bridge that was built several years ago across I-4 in the Lake Mary area.

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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2018, 08:38:09 pm »
Quote from: Millee on March 15, 2018, 08:22:18 pm
No, it's Trump's fault. 

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/03/15/impeach-him-now-meet-the-twisted-trolls-trying-to-pin-fiu-bridge-collapse-on-trump/

O! M! G!

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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2018, 08:45:45 pm »
Quote from: the_doc on March 15, 2018, 07:48:48 pm
The collapse might have involved defective steel from Japan (Kobe Steel Co.) or Russia (Red October Steel Co.).

I'm betting on not fully supported, partial construction.  I've seen more than one temporary construction supports before the final is done thrown together and inadequate.
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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2018, 09:03:08 pm »
Quote from: AllThatJazzZ on March 15, 2018, 08:38:09 pm
O! M! G!

I'm incredulous that people can be so profoundly stupid. I can remember how idiotic people looked when they were suffering from BDS. TDS is BDS on steroids.  *****rollingeyes*****

It really is.   :wtf!:
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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2018, 09:20:44 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on March 15, 2018, 08:20:26 pm
Why would they allow people to use the bridge if it isn't finished.  IF the project wasn't finished, that would mean that it shouldn't have passed a final inspection and certainly people shouldn't have been allowed to use it.

It isn't a matter of "letting" people. It is a matter if it was well barricaded so they couldn't get access when the construction crew isn't present - if that was an issue at all. Just possible speculation and we're talking about college kids...
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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2018, 09:36:06 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on March 15, 2018, 07:21:00 pm
A local college had illegals do some work on new dorms, mostly masonry. The "workers" proceeded to defecate into unconnected toilets. Who knows why they thought that made sense.

Picture this:  Cancun, Mexico (?), circa 1985.  Looking at a vacation condo.  Nope.  The rebar was wire clothes hangers.  Small golf course on a small island with a cute little bridge.  They forgot to put in pipes for fresh water.  I guess they thought the lovely grass could handle salty water.  They ended up using a garden hose.

I am glad I was there as Cancun was being built.

Puerta Vallarte circa 1982:  Watched as bottled water was being filled with a hose.

There were so many more really disgusting things in Mexico when @Cyber Liberty and I were on a cruise there.   We, for the most part, stayed on the ship. I do not like Mexico.

Are these people interrelated a little bit too much?  I  know a few sayings, but I will not post them.

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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2018, 09:45:10 pm »
Quote from: AllThatJazzZ on March 15, 2018, 08:38:09 pm
O! M! G!

I'm incredulous that people can be so profoundly stupid. I can remember how idiotic people looked when they were suffering from BDS. TDS is BDS on steroids.  *****rollingeyes*****

After watching it unfold on TV, my first thought was:  How are Republicans going to be blamed.  I guess even that step was missed.

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Re: Update: 6-10 reported killed. At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge co
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2018, 10:08:12 pm »
Can anyone explain why they didn't do this work with the road closed instead of during a workday with flowing traffic? Idiots.
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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #40 on: March 15, 2018, 10:13:36 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on March 15, 2018, 07:16:12 pm
Getting crushed by a huge slab of falling concrete has to be one of the more bad ways to go.

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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2018, 10:18:28 pm »
Quote from: Millee on March 15, 2018, 08:22:18 pm
No, it's Trump's fault. 

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/03/15/impeach-him-now-meet-the-twisted-trolls-trying-to-pin-fiu-bridge-collapse-on-trump/

The silliest posts were those claiming this was evidence of the infrastructure crisis.  This was new construction!

My prayers to the families of the victims.   
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Re: At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge collapse
« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2018, 10:20:09 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 15, 2018, 10:18:28 pm
The silliest posts were those claiming this was evidence of the infrastructure crisis.  This was new construction!
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Re: Update: 6-10 reported killed. At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge co
« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2018, 11:15:40 pm »
There was no middle tower support for this long concrete bridge...no wonder it collapsed.
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Re: Update: 6-10 reported killed. At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge co
« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2018, 11:42:17 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on March 15, 2018, 11:15:40 pm
There was no middle tower support for this long concrete bridge...no wonder it collapsed.

Which would indicate that it was engineered very poorly. Instant bridges?  Perhaps the engineer needs to rethink that idea.  :whistle:
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Re: Update: 6-10 reported killed. At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge co
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2018, 11:43:20 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on March 15, 2018, 11:42:17 pm
Which would indicate that it was engineered very poorly. Instant bridges?  Perhaps the engineer needs to rethink that idea.  :whistle:

I'm sure they're rethinking real hard about now.
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Re: Update: 6-10 reported killed. At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge co
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2018, 12:07:51 am »
Reading various Miami Herald articles,
1) the students were on spring break, thank God!
2) there were workers on the bridge, possibly doing a stress test.  I can't find anything about injured workers, though.
3) the "instant" technique has been used in several major projects in the area without incident.
4) the bridge wasn't scheduled to open until next year (?)
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Re: Update: 6-10 reported killed. At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge co
« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2018, 01:55:45 am »
Quote from: mystery-ak on March 15, 2018, 11:15:40 pm
There was no middle tower support for this long concrete bridge...no wonder it collapsed.

The rendering shows a middle support.
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Re: Update: 6-10 reported killed. At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge co
« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2018, 02:02:19 am »
Quote from: RoosGirl on March 16, 2018, 01:55:45 am
The rendering shows a middle support.


As someone who works on medical devices, I can tell you having extra parts after re-assembly isn’t good.
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Re: Update: 6-10 reported killed. At least 6 injured in Florida International University bridge co
« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2018, 02:09:04 am »
Quote from: edpc on March 16, 2018, 02:02:19 am

As someone who works on medical devices, I can tell you having extra parts after re-assembly isn’t good.

Did I miss the part in the article that said that it was not installed?
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