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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #100 on: March 14, 2018, 01:20:11 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on March 14, 2018, 01:08:04 pm
At some point the "we just ran a crap candidate" excuse won't explain the loss of control of the House and Possibly the Senate.

People will have to face the hard reality of why all those seats were lost.

The GOP has a bunch of crap candidates.   
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #101 on: March 14, 2018, 01:21:12 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on March 14, 2018, 01:20:11 pm
The GOP has a bunch of crap candidates.

So when/if we lose the House and possibly the Senate...all of those people running were crap candidates?

Seriously?
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #102 on: March 14, 2018, 01:29:58 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on March 14, 2018, 01:21:12 pm
So when/if we lose the House and possibly the Senate...all of those people running were crap candidates?

Seriously?

Well, the GOP is well known for running "next-in-line" crap candidates, so it's not as ridiculous as it sounds on its face.  McCain was next in line.  Twice.  Romney was next in line.  Dole was next in line.  Bush I was next in line.  Even Reagan was next in line.  Only Bush II and Trump broke that trend, and we saw how that worked out.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #103 on: March 14, 2018, 01:31:53 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 14, 2018, 04:12:06 am
Not only did I want the GOP to lose this seat, I wanted them to lose it by a landslide.

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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #104 on: March 14, 2018, 01:32:29 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 14, 2018, 01:29:58 pm
Well, the GOP is well known for running "next-in-line" crap candidates, so it's not as ridiculous as it sounds on its face.  McCain was next in line.  Twice.  Romney was next in line.  Dole was next in line.  Bush I was next in line.  Even Reagan was next in line.  Only Bush II and Trump broke that trend, and we saw how that worked out.

@Cyber Liberty

That's for President...not for the House or Senate.  We usually have some bright star in Congress...to say that all of the candidates are "crap" right now is just excuse making for losing and what's looming in November IMO.

And as for Reagan being "next in line"...he muscled his way to the front of the line...H.W. Bush was the establishment choice...ANYONE but Reagan was who the GOP wanted against Carter in 1980.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #105 on: March 14, 2018, 01:37:40 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on March 14, 2018, 01:21:12 pm
So when/if we lose the House and possibly the Senate...all of those people running were crap candidates?

Seriously?

These losses are due to Trump’s “popularity.”  And the Democrats finding out that the way to victory in these districts is not to run  Bernie Sanders, Hollywood, ANTIFA leftists
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #106 on: March 14, 2018, 01:41:40 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on March 14, 2018, 01:08:04 pm
At some point the "we just ran a crap candidate" excuse won't explain the loss of control of the House and Possibly the Senate.

It's not an excuse.  It's an explanation.  As for losing the House, I don't think the Establishment really cares as long as they keep getting their perks.  When in the minority, they don't have to do a thing, yet still get full pay and benefits.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #107 on: March 14, 2018, 01:47:07 pm »
I don't know that Saccone was such a bad candidate. The anti-gun, pro-abortion, anti-Israel Lamb pretended he was just the opposite of what he truly is. In other words, Lamb ran as a moderate, even though his views are solidly leftist. I guess people in PA were too lazy to find out the truth about him.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #108 on: March 14, 2018, 01:48:24 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on March 14, 2018, 01:32:29 pm
...ANYONE but Reagan was who the GOP wanted against Carter in 1980.

That applies to 1976, too.  I seem to recall the Establishment hiring Paul Manafort to kill off Reagan's bid and secure the nomination for Ford.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #109 on: March 14, 2018, 01:49:20 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on March 14, 2018, 01:32:29 pm
@Cyber Liberty

That's for President...not for the House or Senate.  We usually have some bright star in Congress...to say that all of the candidates are "crap" right now is just excuse making for losing and what's looming in November IMO.

And as for Reagan being "next in line"...he muscled his way to the front of the line...H.W. Bush was the establishment choice...ANYONE but Reagan was who the GOP wanted against Carter in 1980.

It's not just President, that's the example I used that everybody can see.  In AZ, I've seen this straight up and down the line.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #110 on: March 14, 2018, 01:53:08 pm »
I'm going to depart from the crowd here and wait for some OFFICIAL results before I chime in.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #111 on: March 14, 2018, 01:54:51 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on March 14, 2018, 01:53:08 pm
I'm going to depart from the crowd here and wait for some OFFICIAL results before I chime in.

That will be awhile.  From what I heard on TeeVee last night, the automatic recount threshold is .5%, and the count is well within that.  Votes are still being counted, too.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #112 on: March 14, 2018, 01:56:35 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 14, 2018, 01:29:58 pm
Well, the GOP is well known for running "next-in-line" crap candidates, so it's not as ridiculous as it sounds on its face. 

What was Hillary?
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #113 on: March 14, 2018, 01:57:10 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on March 14, 2018, 01:48:24 pm
That applies to 1976, too.  I seem to recall the Establishment hiring Paul Manafort to kill off Reagan's bid and secure the nomination for Ford.

@Hoodat yup he was the vote counter that got the votes to put Ford over the edge on IIRC the third recount at the Convention that year.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #114 on: March 14, 2018, 01:58:26 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 14, 2018, 01:49:20 pm
It's not just President, that's the example I used that everybody can see.  In AZ, I've seen this straight up and down the line.

McCain...with the help of McConnell has done a wonderful job of squashing any challenger to what he thinks is HIS Senate seat.

And then there is Flake.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #115 on: March 14, 2018, 01:58:35 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on March 14, 2018, 01:56:35 pm
What was Hillary?


A two time next in line loser, because the universe really hates her.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #116 on: March 14, 2018, 02:01:13 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 14, 2018, 01:54:51 pm
That will be awhile.  From what I heard on TeeVee last night, the automatic recount threshold is .5%, and the count is well within that.  Votes are still being counted, too.

Going to be weeks, maybe months before this is decided.  Maybe even court challenges. 

Meanwhile, depending on how the redistricting mess in PA is finally resolved, the eventual winner might end up being sworn in, then having to resign a few weeks or months later if his district is realigned or disappears. 

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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #117 on: March 14, 2018, 02:01:30 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 14, 2018, 01:54:51 pm
That will be awhile.  From what I heard on TeeVee last night, the automatic recount threshold is .5%, and the count is well within that.  Votes are still being counted, too.

And while they are still counting BOTH candidates are going to have to decide whether or not to run in the new district.  This one is only good for 9 more months.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #118 on: March 14, 2018, 02:07:12 pm »
I didn’t follow this campaign so maybe he was a crap candidate and maybe he wasn’t. But this was Trump country and the republican voters knew the significance of holding this seat but too many stayed home or even a crap candidate would have won. This one is on the voters
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #119 on: March 14, 2018, 02:07:57 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on March 14, 2018, 01:56:35 pm
What was Hillary?

Hillary is proof that running legacy party candidates does not work.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #120 on: March 14, 2018, 02:10:31 pm »
Quote from: NavyCanDo on March 14, 2018, 02:07:12 pm
I didn’t follow this campaign so maybe he was a crap candidate and maybe he wasn’t. But this was Trump country and the republican voters knew the significance of holding this seat

Yet the Party didn't care.  Bottom line - the Democrats wanted this win .ore than the GOP, and they worked harder to win it.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #121 on: March 14, 2018, 02:16:34 pm »
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What was Hillary?

A rarity for that party.  Kerry was too.

They run inexperienced boobs, we run long in the tooth swamp creatures.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #122 on: March 14, 2018, 02:18:20 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on March 14, 2018, 01:08:04 pm
At some point the "we just ran a crap candidate" excuse won't explain the loss of control of the House and Possibly the Senate.

People will have to face the hard reality of why all those seats were lost.

Well why don't you enlighten us. Show me where in any of these special elections that the GOPer was a better quality candidate than the Rat. I was involved in state politics for years and I don't care what, if you run a low energy undynamic person in a local election they will lose no matter how good their message.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #123 on: March 14, 2018, 02:18:45 pm »
Quote from: Applewood on March 14, 2018, 02:01:13 pm
Going to be weeks, maybe months before this is decided.  Maybe even court challenges. 

Meanwhile, depending on how the redistricting mess in PA is finally resolved, the eventual winner might end up being sworn in, then having to resign a few weeks or months later if his district is realigned or disappears. 

Ain't politics fun?

I haven't heard of any pushback from the GOP in PA over the court's usurping the power to draw the district lines, so it will probably be a Dem favored seat.
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Re: 18TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SPECIAL ELECTION
« Reply #124 on: March 14, 2018, 02:20:18 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on March 14, 2018, 02:10:31 pm
Yet the Party didn't care.  Bottom line - the Democrats wanted this win .ore than the GOP, and they worked harder to win it.

Exactly. Suckone held two low key events his last weekend before the election. Just pathetic.
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