Thinking the unthinkable on a Second Civil War

[goatprairie]

Do we?

As time goes on, I am beginning to discover that is not the case at all.

Unless it's cable, beer, porn, unlimited internet access and pizza.

One of my stepdaughters and her husband vote for liberals but live like conservatives.  He's a hunter, a boy scout leader, and a churchgoer.
She is against drug legalization and most liberal, Hollyweird-type activities.
If you didn't know they voted for Dems, you might think they're Republicans.
Many people vote for a party because their parents did or for a certain issue. That includes many union people who vote for Dems out of loyalty to the union. That doesn't mean they're leftist lunatics who want to destroy their country.

[Sanguine]

I thought nullification was only legitimate in the case that the law being "nullified" was done because it was deemed to be unconstitutional.  There nothing unconstitutional about enforcing immigration laws.

[goatprairie]

I thought nullification was only legitimate in the case that the law being "nullified" was done because it was deemed to be unconstitutional.  There nothing unconstitutional about enforcing immigration laws.

As liberals/leftists believe in the "living constitution," they don't really believe in anything. The constitution is whatever they feel like believing it is.

[Sanguine]

As liberals/leftists believe in the "living constitution," they don't really believe in anything. The constitution is whatever they feel like believing it is.

And, apparently Republicans are too damned ignorant and feckless to educate and make significant counterpoints.

[INVAR]

And, apparently Republicans are too damned ignorant and feckless to educate and make significant counterpoints.

Because the leadership itself wants what the Democrats do, and we have several generations that were brainwashed into believing Communist claptrap being taught in public screwels and colleges.

As Reagan warned, we were only one generation from losing liberty altogether.

We are thrice removed from that fact and accelerating into full blown Socialism/Statism.

[Slip18]

I don't know about a Civil War, but it will be an ugly scene at the most.

Firsthand from a large family who are half Democratic and half Republican: The dems could not vote for Hillary no matter what; they also could not vote for Trump, no matter what.  They are without a choice.

But as I have told the Democratic branch, you have to respect the Office of The President of the United States.  I shut up with Obama, and it was difficult.   They have all agreed that they are enjoying their tax cuts, et cetera.

Just from my family, I don't think there will be a Civil War.  Really.

Of course, none of them got caught up with the Soros payoffs, either.  They have a different point of view.

That part also know I am a gun enthusiast.  I have not told them about our AR-15.  Why bother riling them up?  I have found, and have had to explain to them, the difference between a semi-automatic and an automatic rifle.  I cannot believe the nonsense they have heard in the media.  They could not believe that all the time I babysat their children that I had semi-autos in my home.  Always locked up when kids were around, but I had them.

The media has confused them all.

If there could be a Civil War, the left wing media should be taken out and shot immediately.  Just my humble opinion.

[Slip18]

And, apparently Republicans are too damned ignorant and feckless to educate and make significant counterpoints.

My family has already had one BIL slaughtered with a baseball bat at the hands of illegal aliens.  They are not terribly happy with the immigration status, either.

[the_doc]

But would anyone want those dollars in that situation, and would they have any value?

I'm hearing that Trump will go back to the gold standard this year.  And it occurs to me that he may pay down the national debt with money frozen under his "State of National Emergency" Executive Order signed on December 21, 2017.   

The MSM is not covering any of this stuff (because they are scared), but a lot of stuff is happening behind the scenes under Trump.  Heck, Trump came into office expecting a kind of civil war (which would explain why he appointed so many generals and admirals to his WH staff).

(No, I didn't vote for either DJT or HRC, but I am glad that our POTUS is taking on the Deep State--even if it means that he has to use martial law powers authorized under his two most recent EOs.)

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I'm hearing that Trump will go back to the gold standard this year. 

Really? Interesting.

[the_doc]

Really? Interesting.

I also hear rumors that Trump will shut down the Fed.  That action, plus the gold standard, will break the back of the international bankers who are evidently the puppetmasters of the Deep State. 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I also hear rumors that Trump will shut down the Fed.  That action, plus the gold standard, will break the back of the international bankers who are evidently the puppetmasters of the Deep State.

Now that is kooky, because the fed is authorized by the constitution.

[the_doc]

Now that is kooky, because the fed is authorized by the constitution.

The Federal Reserve supposedly works on behalf of the government, but it is not a government agency.  It is not under any Congressional oversight.  Its monetary policies do not require POTUS approval.  It has never been audited in its century-long history. 

The Federal Reserve was created by Congress, but not by the Constitution per se.     

[truth_seeker]

If there could be a Civil War, the left wing media should be taken out and shot immediately.  Just my humble opinion.

Rather, capture them, force them to read the truth on the air. If they refuse, deal with them in accordance with wartime rules.

[driftdiver]

Rather, capture them, force them to read the truth on the air. If they refuse, deal with them in accordance with wartime rules.

Most of them are foreign agents.

[libertybele]

I want a uniform.  What will it look like.  Something in Blue.  Blue is the new red.