Tom Brokaw rips Trump for calling Chuck Todd a 'son of a bitch': 'Really classy'

[edpc]

@edpc   Another example of class by Ed, before our very eyes.

Exactly.  I'm not running for president and if I use Trump tactics, people seem not to like it so much.  Hilarious.

[Emjay]

Exactly.  I'm not running for president and if I use Trump tactics, people seem not to like it so much.  Hilarious.

@edpc   Ed, you know you were outed and shown to be a total hypocrite, so yeah, it's a little funny, maybe not hilarious but amusing that you are even attempting to defend yourself.

[Emjay]

Indeed.  We will look back in frustration at would could have been.

Could have been without what?

Trump using street vocabulary?

It's not 'could have been,'  it's already is.  We have already made a lot of strides under the Trump admin, but the press concentrates on the personal stuff, the infighting among his staff, the juicy gossip.

That kind of stuff probably occurred in every single dem administration but you didn't notice it because the press didn't tell you about it.

Why do supposedly intelligent people continue to fall for it?

No President is gonna do every single thing I want or you want, but Trump has not been bad at all.

The economy is better; our respect around the world is better; and Trump is trying to solve the illegal problem.  Some of his efforts in that direction have been thwarted by liberal judges or a lame Congress, but he will succeed eventually.

I was for Ted Cruz but I'm kinda glad that Trump is in the hot seat now.  I don't think Ted could have accomplished much more under the circumstances.  He wouldn't have given the left and the press the kind of ammo Trump does, but they would have found many ways to go after him.

[musiclady]

Exactly.  I'm not running for president and if I use Trump tactics, people seem not to like it so much.  Hilarious.

Odd, isn't it?

I don't like foul language wherever it comes from, but how in the world is it no big deal when Trump uses it, and a reason for excoriation when TBR folks use it??

How about some consistency here??

[Emjay]

Odd, isn't it?

I don't like foul language wherever it comes from, but how in the world is it no big deal when Trump uses it, and a reason for excoriation when TBR folks use it??

How about some consistency here??

@musiclady   Hey, you're a nice lady but you're dealing in a wee bit of hypocrisy. 

If people are offended by 'foul' language, they should not use it in public forums or to another person.

I've been the victim of it way too much here.

I did not say it is no big deal when Trump uses it, although it's not the worst thing that's ever happened in the known universe.

I simply called a few people out for their gasping in horror at Trump saying stuff they say all the time.

[musiclady]

@musiclady   Hey, you're a nice lady but you're dealing in a wee bit of hypocrisy. 

If people are offended by 'foul' language, they should not use it in public forums or to another person.

I've been the victim of it way too much here.

I did not say it is no big deal when Trump uses it, although it's not the worst thing that's ever happened in the known universe.

I simply called a few people out for their gasping in horror at Trump saying stuff they say all the time.

I don't use foul language and I don't like it when anyone uses it, ergo, there is no hypocrisy at all in my stance.

However, it is a defensible position for others to have when they expect the President of the United States to behave better than a potty mouthed school boy.

But then again, I cannot forget the excuses made when Trump admitted that he molested women, as being no big deal...... just a potty mouthed school boy.

Methinks it is Trump apologists who have to tie themselves in knots to defend his crude, unacceptable behavior.

[GtHawk]

And your way has 1,000,000 immigrants coming through with chain migration. Your way is no better and you can't refute it.  If your way is to just deny truth because you don't know any better and can not counter, that speaks for itself.

By the way, Cruz stands for forgiving lawbreaking which is the definition of amnesty. Also voted for a bill funding planned parenthood.

So, the tit for tat can work the other way too.

For the record, Cruz has also said he wants to end chain migration, which needs to be said, since it is likely, people are not informed. Well, how is that going to happen? Just do nothing.

Did I miss something, is Cruz the President? Why is it every time Trump does something stupid or distasteful and get's called on on it, the faithful immediately deflect to Cruz. How about you deal with the subject for a change, Trump nullifies the good he does with all the stupid he shovels over it. Anyone remember when the faithful told us all that Trump was different because he wasn't a politician? What a load, he's a bigger pandering politician than anyone and hasn't stopped campaigning a single day since he announced for 2016!

[edpc]

@edpc   Ed, you know you were outed and shown to be a total hypocrite, so yeah, it's a little funny, maybe not hilarious but amusing that you are even attempting to defend yourself.

There's nothing I need to defend.  Besides, I thought you were ignoring me.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Our country probably enjoys twice as much respect from the rest of the world now than it did during the Obama reign.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

@edpc   Ed, you know you were outed and shown to be a total hypocrite, so yeah, it's a little funny, maybe not hilarious but amusing that you are even attempting to defend yourself.

I read this thread.  I saw Ed insult Trump, and I saw you insult Ed.  Facts matter to me.

[musiclady]

I read this thread.  I saw Ed insult Trump, and I saw you insult Ed.  Facts matter to me.

That's pretty much how it happens, isn't it?

[Formerly Once-Ler]

That's pretty much how it happens, isn't it?

Frequently.  So frequently that I wonder why @Emjay seems oblivious to the meanings of the words she writes.  I have to assume she perceives an attack on Trump as a personal attack on her, and thus feels justified in attacking personally in return.

[musiclady]

Frequently.  So frequently that I wonder why @Emjay seems oblivious to the meanings of the words she writes.  I have to assume she perceives an attack on Trump as a personal attack on her, and thus feels justified in attacking personally in return.

It's been happening since the Trump cult began during the primary.   An attack on Trump warrants an attack on the poster making the comment.

It happens all the time.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Frequently.  So frequently that I wonder why @Emjay seems oblivious to the meanings of the words she writes.  I have to assume she perceives an attack on Trump as a personal attack on her, and thus feels justified in attacking personally in return.

She's the nastiest person on the forum. She didn't used to be like this. Shame, really.

[LauraTXNM]

Our country probably enjoys twice as much respect from the rest of the world now than it did during the Obama reign.

I'm really not trying to be snarky, but WHO respects us more?

[Formerly Once-Ler]

I'm really not trying to be snarky, but WHO respects us more?

Russia

[libertybele]

@libertybele   I don't give Trump a free pass and I wish he had a more elegant vocabulary, but the people who are criticizing him the most (not you) are people who cannot refrain from calling people names on a forum.

And ... when did he grant illegals amnesty?  That's one of his strengths to me... trying to protect us gainst illegals.

Trump publicly announced his offer to the DEMS to grant amnesty to DACA recipients.

Trump's lies, deceit, name-calling, mud-slinging, etc., is not acceptable and certainly as President of the U.S., he should show some restraint, decorum, and respect towards other people instead of acting like a schoolyard bully. 

[INVAR]

Did I miss something, is Cruz the President? Why is it every time Trump does something stupid or distasteful and get's called on on it, the faithful immediately deflect to Cruz. How about you deal with the subject for a change, Trump nullifies the good he does with all the stupid he shovels over it. Anyone remember when the faithful told us all that Trump was different because he wasn't a politician? What a load, he's a bigger pandering politician than anyone and hasn't stopped campaigning a single day since he announced for 2016![/size]

Those who get a 'thrill up their leg' over wanting to have Trump's baby get mighty pissed at anyone who does not fawn over their 'man'.   Chucking Ted Cruz ad nauseum into the discussion to disparage those who will not jizz themselves over Trump, is some kind of stupid tactic they think shames Conservatives.   Cruz is just a dog whistle to call their compatriots to join in the shaming attempts.

They are erroneously stuck on stupid and assume everyone who is not in love and in devotion to Trump must be a Cruz supporter who cannot get over he lost the primary, or they are Marxist Democrats.  No other possibility enters their lovestruck minds.

[LauraTXNM]

Russia

Not based on the way they're acting in the Middle East and Eastern Europe?

[truth_seeker]

I'm really not trying to be snarky, but WHO respects us more?

I remember when we had adults as parents, that would say they don't aim for their children to "like" them, but do aim for their children to "respect" them. (Implied was the notion you might get smacked for misbehaving)

Taken in that light, Trump puts "real" fear into the equation, in place of Obama-Clinton coddling, international feel goodism.

[LauraTXNM]

I remember when we had adults as parents, that would say they don't aim for their children to "like" them, but do aim for their children to "respect" them. (Implied was the notion you might get smacked for misbehaving)

Taken in that light, Trump puts "real" fear into the equation, in place of Obama-Clinton coddling, international feel goodism.

Fear I get -- speak softly and carry a big stick -- but this is more like wariness when confronted by an unpredictable, possibly rabid, dog.

[Concerned]

I remember when we had adults as parents, that would say they don't aim for their children to "like" them, but do aim for their children to "respect" them. (Implied was the notion you might get smacked for misbehaving)

Taken in that light, Trump puts "real" fear into the equation, in place of Obama-Clinton coddling, international feel goodism.

Engendering fear is certainly not the same thing as engendering respect.  Bullies are often feared but seldom respected, at least in my experience.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Not based on the way they're acting in the Middle East and Eastern Europe?

It was just a joke.  I am sure Russia doesn't respect Trump or the US.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Fear I get -- speak softly and carry a big stick -- but this is more like wariness when confronted by an unpredictable, possibly rabid, dog.

I love that analogy.

[LauraTXNM]

It was just a joke.  I am sure Russia doesn't respect Trump or the US.

I figured, but I never like to assume sarcasm here for obvious reasons ;).