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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2018, 06:55:36 pm »
Who the hell do you think you are lady?  You have no authority whatsoever to give such admonitions to ANYONE on this board.


You've no right to tell me which opinion I can and cannot express ---- so put a sock in it.

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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2018, 06:58:09 pm »
You've no right to tell me which opinion I can and cannot express ---- so put a sock in it.

Your start contradicts your ending...

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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2018, 07:02:05 pm »
Great.
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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2018, 07:02:21 pm »
You've no right to tell me which opinion I can and cannot express ---- so put a sock in it.

I have every right to tell you that you have no right to tell anyone to shut up, or to tell anyone that they cannot ridicule anyone's post or opinion.

Seems you are just another stellar example of the bullshit bully who operates on a 'liberty for me but not for thee' worldview of everything, and works tirelessly to silence or stifle anyone with a different idea or viewpoint they think risks their party and naked leader.
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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2018, 07:06:53 pm »
Hey, @Stevensr123, you can feel free to ridicule me any time you want! 
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2018, 07:09:06 pm »
Great.

What did we do to deserve that image???

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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2018, 07:10:42 pm »
Hey, @Stevensr123, you can feel free to ridicule me any time you want!



[Seriously, though, one of the things I liked best about this site was the lack of the 'prove yourself, n00b' attitude from FR.  Let's not bring it in now, shall we?]
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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2018, 07:18:55 pm »
You've no right to tell me which opinion I can and cannot express ---- so put a sock in it.

That takes a shocking level of nerve, even for you, considering the "opinion" you were expressing was telling somebody they're a Noobie with no right to express their opinion, and to shut up.  I think @INVAR is being remarkably gentle with you here.
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
I will NOT comply.
 
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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2018, 07:20:08 pm »
[Seriously, though, one of the things I liked best about this site was the lack of the 'prove yourself, n00b' attitude from FR.  Let's not bring it in now, shall we?]

I think if a Mod spots that, it's not going to go well.  Homie don't play that on TBR.
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2018, 07:21:47 pm »
Yes, I know.  And you're most welcome ... it was, as always, a privilege to help.   :beer:

You are... apparently unable (not surprised, mind you).... to detect extreme (if not dripping)...

SARCASM!

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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2018, 07:27:11 pm »
[Seriously, though, one of the things I liked best about this site was the lack of the 'prove yourself, n00b' attitude from FR.  Let's not bring it in now, shall we?]

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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2018, 07:28:06 pm »
   If it wasn't for @Right_in_Virginia, I wouldn't have a clue who it was here that I could ridicule.
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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2018, 07:49:50 pm »
   If it wasn't for @Right_in_Virginia, I wouldn't have a clue who it was here that I could ridicule.

You must now kiss the ring.....



or else.

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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2018, 07:53:42 pm »
   Like most Trumpers here RiV is quite knowledgeable and of course passionate in her views, this place wouldn't be the same without them.
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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2018, 08:11:20 pm »
Please Briefers .. if you're not going to read The Art of the Deal, then at least listen to the President directly, unfiltered.  Just today he said tariffs remain an option determined by the outcome of the renegotiations under way --- "we'll see what happens".

This was and is a bargaining chip.  If the negotiations do not end with a level playing field for the American worker --- in spite of a letter from our esteemed Congress --- the President will impose the tariffs.  The media may not understand this, Congress may not understand this, but those sitting across the bargaining table do.

All this angst and finger-pointing and jumping on the President and "Trumpers" is unnecessary.

Scaled back tariffs on steel (exempting Canada and Mexico) remains a sound idea.   A healthy domestic steel industry does have value as a national security matter,  and if Trump sticks to his guns it appears there could be immediate payoffs in terms of shuttered mills being restarted and laid off workers called back to their jobs.  It is not Trump's fault if a limited, targeted program of tariffs intended to protect a vital domestic industry (something that most other nations do as a matter of course) causes a trade war;  if that occurs then I hope the President continues to defend our interests, and that of American workers.

Free trade is all well and good in the economics books; in the real world it decimates lives and weakens the middle class.   Free trade in the context of globalization is something demanded by elites, on the backs of workers.   

Free trade is a concept I support,  but only in the context of a level playing field.  If Europe tariffs our auto exports at three times the rate we tariff theirs,  something is not right.   That's not fair to those who build cars here,  and I have no philosophical objection whatsoever to equalizing the matter.    We should encourage free trade among equals;  we unfairly favor consumers at the expense of workers if we insist on allowing third world nations, nations with wage rates and labor, environmental and intellectual property protections not even close to our own,  to send us their cheap goods at the expense of domestic workers in industries that remain vital - like steel - who need their jobs to support their families.

Trump is not the usual sort of economic conservative.   He favors lower taxes and less regulations, and as conservatives we rightfully cheer his efforts in these areas,  but philosophically what Trump cares about is jobs.   Jobs to sustain a battered middle class.    Trump is probably the first President in my lifetime who understands the dynamic between the interests of consumers and workers, and is not willing to toss the latter to the wolves.   

   
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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2018, 08:48:58 pm »
Thanks,  RIV.  We needed someone to Trumpsplain all of this.

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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2018, 09:03:02 pm »
Your start contradicts your ending...

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Bwhahahaha! @Right_in_Virginia has no idea what cognitive dissonance looks like! Which explains A LOT.
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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2018, 09:04:17 pm »
"We are not looking to get into trade wars. We are looking to make sure that U.S. companies can compete fairly around the world," Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin said on Tuesday at the House Appropriates hearing.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-tariffs-will-exempt-canada-and-mexico/


Weird.  I thought trade wars were good and easy to win.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2018, 09:04:42 pm »
Who the hell do you think you are lady?  You have no authority whatsoever to give such admonitions to ANYONE on this board.

You are not a Mod, you are not the owner.

Anyone on this board has the liberty to ridicule posts, opinions and ideas that they consider to be absurd, dumb, moronic, false or just plain stupid.  That especially goes for yours.

You have no authority to caution anyone about anything, or attempt to silence them because they have not been here as long as you have haunted this place.


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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2018, 09:06:34 pm »
I'm guessing you've all been too preoccupied to know .... but the President just signed the order on tariffs.




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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2018, 09:08:42 pm »
@DB

Bwhahahaha! @Right_in_Virginia has no idea what cognitive dissonance looks like! Which explains A LOT.

I know while you were busy talking about me ... the President signed the order on tariffs @bolobaby   :smokin:

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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #48 on: March 08, 2018, 09:08:50 pm »
I'm guessing you've all been too preoccupied to know .... but the President just signed the order on tariffs.


I'm guessing you didnt read two posts up from yours.
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I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: BREAKING: White House Hits the Brakes on Tariffs
« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2018, 09:10:03 pm »
I'm guessing you've all been too preoccupied to know .... but the President just signed the order on tariffs.

We know. And he excluded Canada and Mexico from it. The opposite of what was said only a day ago.