Author Topic: Ted Cruz, Whose Real Name is Rafael, Slams 'Beto' O'Rourke For Latino Nickname (Read 3271 times)

DB · « **Reply #50 on:** March 08, 2018, 08:45:59 pm »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 08, 2018, 08:38:32 pm

I am disappointed in this thread. I slandered John Tower by calling him a drunk and no one is defending him. Outrageous.

He wasn't?

mountaineer · « **Reply #51 on:** March 08, 2018, 09:15:24 pm »

Quote from: Emjay on March 08, 2018, 07:55:27 pm

So you are a Chica? Always thought you were a Nino ... guess because @mountaineer brings up the image of a guy to me.

SÃ. Thus my avatar.

Hoodat · « **Reply #52 on:** March 08, 2018, 09:27:59 pm »

@TomSea

We get it already. Ted Cruz is a Conservative, and you don't like Conservatives. Again, we get it. But posting stories from fake news websites like Yahoo News does not bolster your credibility.

Hoodat · « **Reply #53 on:** March 08, 2018, 09:32:38 pm »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 08, 2018, 08:38:32 pm

I am disappointed in this thread. I slandered John Tower by calling him a drunk and no one is defending him. Outrageous.

I will never forget the way the press treated John Tower when he was nominated for Sec. of Defense. Some reporter asked him if he had ever cheated on his wife. Tower truthfully answered 'Yes'. I thought the reporter was despicable, and I gave Tower a lot of credit for his blunt honesty. But the exchanged doomed his nomination.

Don't know where that reporter disappeared to a year later when Bill Clinton was running for President.

Sanguine · « **Reply #54 on:** March 08, 2018, 09:47:44 pm »

Quote from: GtHawk on March 08, 2018, 08:27:48 pm

What makes you think they aren't? Cruzitis cannot be bound to one site! it's funny how anything to do with Cruz makes certain people

Squirrel bubbles?

Emjay · « **Reply #55 on:** March 08, 2018, 10:27:39 pm »

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on March 08, 2018, 08:44:05 pm

It's dumb because Cruz, too, has first name "issues". It didn't buy him anything .. except opening himself to people making similar comparisons with his name --- and possibly more.

@Emjay

Not really. Cruz's first name is Rafael, perfectly appropriate to his heritage but it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. Ted is an acceptable substitute. Now if he called himself by a nickname that suggested an entirely different heritage for some political advantage, that might not be so good.

GtHawk · « **Reply #56 on:** March 08, 2018, 11:29:58 pm »

Quote from: Sanguine on March 08, 2018, 09:47:44 pm

Squirrel bubbles?

A squirrel chasing intangibles, every time it grabs a bubble it goes pop!

Sanguine · « **Reply #57 on:** March 08, 2018, 11:37:23 pm »

Quote from: GtHawk on March 08, 2018, 11:29:58 pm

A squirrel chasing intangibles, every time it grabs a bubble it goes pop!

I get it now!

LauraTXNM · « **Reply #58 on:** March 09, 2018, 01:03:14 am »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on March 08, 2018, 03:33:11 pm

Ah, yes, same with my Spanish teacher, and I somehow became "Joaquin," which was pronounced something closer to "Wha-keen."

Of course it is. How else would you pronounce "Joaquin"?

Sanguine · « **Reply #59 on:** March 09, 2018, 01:07:42 am »

Quote from: LauraTXNM on March 09, 2018, 01:03:14 am

Of course it is. How else would you pronounce "Joaquin"?

LauraTXNM · « **Reply #60 on:** March 09, 2018, 01:08:05 am »

I already explained this. Fourth generation El Paso = Latino nickname. It's very common there.

Sanguine · « **Reply #61 on:** March 09, 2018, 01:11:33 am »

Quote from: LauraTXNM on March 09, 2018, 01:08:05 am

I already explained this. Fourth generation El Paso = Latino nickname. It's very common there.

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LauraTXNM · « **Reply #62 on:** March 09, 2018, 01:27:24 am »

Quote from: Sanguine on March 09, 2018, 01:11:33 am

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Enh, this is a continuation of your and my conversation on the other thread and last night. I thought it was a border thing, but you said not in South Texas. So I guess it's more El Paso. Maybe it's more the families who've been there for several generations. Almost everyone I knew growing up had a Spanish nickname. Most people speak at least some Spanish -- you study it from K12, even if you don't have family who speak it. Beto is fluent, like a lot of people in El Paso. And he was called Beto even when he was in high school.

Sorry I'm being grumpy ;(. But it's equally dumb to make fun of "Ted" and "Beto".

I don't know why this bugs me, but I get annoyed when people just don't get El Paso and the mixed culture there.

Bigun · « **Reply #63 on:** March 09, 2018, 01:52:40 am »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 08, 2018, 08:38:32 pm

I am disappointed in this thread. I slandered John Tower by calling him a drunk and no one is defending him. Outrageous.

He was a drunk but he was our drunk! And a damned smart one at that!

Come to think of it, if I had to hang around with the same people he did in DC I would have died of alcohol poisoning long ago!

Emjay · « **Reply #64 on:** March 09, 2018, 02:17:41 am »

Quote from: LauraTXNM on March 09, 2018, 01:27:24 am

Enh, this is a continuation of your and my conversation on the other thread and last night. I thought it was a border thing, but you said not in South Texas. So I guess it's more El Paso. Maybe it's more the families who've been there for several generations. Almost everyone I knew growing up had a Spanish nickname. Most people speak at least some Spanish -- you study it from K12, even if you don't have family who speak it. Beto is fluent, like a lot of people in El Paso. And he was called Beto even when he was in high school.

Sorry I'm being grumpy ;(. But it's equally dumb to make fun of "Ted" and "Beto".

I don't know why this bugs me, but I get annoyed when people just don't get El Paso and the mixed culture there.

I get you, but Beto is still a dang commie pinko Irishman.

Bigun · « **Reply #65 on:** March 09, 2018, 02:26:34 am »

Quote from: DB on March 09, 2018, 02:24:08 am

I was born in El Paso... I can remember being chased down the alley by rock throwing "Latinos" screaming gringo... I was probably in first grade...

I don't have fond memories of El Paso.

I have a few. Mostly they involve seeing the place in my rear view mirror.

Sanguine · « **Reply #66 on:** March 09, 2018, 02:28:22 am »

Quote from: LauraTXNM on March 09, 2018, 01:27:24 am

Enh, this is a continuation of your and my conversation on the other thread and last night. I thought it was a border thing, but you said not in South Texas. So I guess it's more El Paso. Maybe it's more the families who've been there for several generations. Almost everyone I knew growing up had a Spanish nickname. Most people speak at least some Spanish -- you study it from K12, even if you don't have family who speak it. Beto is fluent, like a lot of people in El Paso. And he was called Beto even when he was in high school.

Sorry I'm being grumpy ;(. But it's equally dumb to make fun of "Ted" and "Beto".

I don't know why this bugs me, but I get annoyed when people just don't get El Paso and the mixed culture there.

The culture in the Valley is a mixed; but more Mexican than American. We all spoke Tex-Mexlish, but there are many who speak no English.

And, I think El Paso doesn't get the rest of the world. But then, EP is closer to California than it is to Austin.

RoosGirl · « **Reply #67 on:** March 09, 2018, 02:44:19 am »

So, are we allowed to call him Paddy instead of 'Beto'?

RoosGirl · « **Reply #68 on:** March 09, 2018, 02:45:33 am »

Quote from: LauraTXNM on March 09, 2018, 01:03:14 am

Of course it is. How else would you pronounce "Joaquin"?

Well, if you're from South Florida it sounds something more like "Jokin".

Hoodat · « **Reply #69 on:** March 09, 2018, 03:17:19 am »

Quote from: LauraTXNM on March 09, 2018, 01:08:05 am

I already explained this. Fourth generation El Paso = Latino nickname. It's very common there.

@LauraTXNM

If I wire you some money and the address of a restaurant there in El Paso, can you overnight me four gallons of their enchilada sauce?

Hoodat · « **Reply #70 on:** March 09, 2018, 03:20:01 am »

Quote from: Sanguine on March 09, 2018, 02:28:22 am

The culture in the Valley is a mixed; but more Mexican than American. We all spoke Tex-Mexlish, but there are many who speak no English.

@Sanguine - Do you live in Area Code 956? That's about as Valley as you can get.

Sanguine · « **Reply #71 on:** March 09, 2018, 03:33:30 am »

Quote from: Hoodat on March 09, 2018, 03:20:01 am

@Sanguine - Do you live in Area Code 956? That's about as Valley as you can get.

No, not any more. I'm in central Texas now.

LauraTXNM · « **Reply #72 on:** March 09, 2018, 04:44:38 am »

Quote from: Hoodat on March 09, 2018, 03:17:19 am

@LauraTXNM

If I wire you some money and the address of a restaurant there in El Paso, can you overnight me four gallons of their enchilada sauce?

OMG, I wish! I'm in Los Angeles now, and I miss "real" Mexican food. I still haven't found a decent gordita here. But which restaurant? I might be able to get a friend to send it.

LauraTXNM · « **Reply #73 on:** March 09, 2018, 04:48:15 am »

Quote from: DB on March 09, 2018, 02:24:08 am

I was born in El Paso... I can remember being chased down the alley by rock throwing "Latinos" screaming gringo... I was probably in first grade...

I don't have fond memories of El Paso.

I'm sorry that happened to you! I can believe it. I had a friend in sixth grade who was jumped by some cholas on her way home from school. They knocked her down and cut off her hair with a broken bottle. But hey, it's one of the safest cities in the US ;).

Suppressed · « **Reply #74 on:** March 09, 2018, 01:20:56 pm »

Quote from: TomSea on March 08, 2018, 02:18:41 pm

At the same time, before Cruz, I'm not aware of any Hispanic holding state-wide office in Texas ever.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/dec/12/republican-party-texas/texas-gop-chair-says-more-hispanics-have-won-state/

At least 5 GOP and 2 Dems.