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Re: Manchin: Trump's Right. China's to Blame.
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2018, 05:00:41 pm »
China is able to dump products on the market for a number of reasons.  Raw materials are cheaply and readily available.  They don't have unions negotiating wages and lifetime benefits, regardless of output or purchase.  Even if they had reasonable environmental regulations, they notoriously ignore them at the expense of safety, health, and lives.

They have 3X our population under authoritarian rule and don't give a damn about them or their working and living conditions.  If you think a tariff is going to level that playing field, you're dreaming.

Exactly. 

Not only this, Americans buy on price - and American made products due to union scale, environazi regs, government red tape and a whole slew of taxes, feed and permits - make our products triple or more in cost than similar products made overseas.

And then history teaches us that vocal trade wars become hot wars.

It will be interesting to watch the unintended consequences unfold when China stops buying our debt and begins dumping the 20% of our treasury notes and bonds, firing the starting gun the rest of out trading partners that Trump just tariffed begin to follow suit. 

Suddenly 20% becomes 40% and expands as the avalanche gathers speed and momentum aided by Trump twittering insults via his phone.
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Re: Manchin: Trump's Right. China's to Blame.
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2018, 05:05:34 pm »
History repeating itself.
You're just saying that because tariffs have failed every time they have been tried.

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Re: Manchin: Trump's Right. China's to Blame.
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2018, 05:10:38 pm »
No, it actually sounds like he's duplicitous and makes decisions he believes will be solely to his benefit, others be damned.

You seem like the kind of person who would ascribe ulterior motives for Trump visiting his failed golf courses and hotels on the public dime every chance he gets.  That is just cynical.  He conducts top secret business, and recreation on his own property because it is the BEST!
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Re: Manchin: Trump's Right. China's to Blame.
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2018, 05:22:55 pm »
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