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Re: Trump hits Bush: Invading Iraq 'the single worst decision ever made'
« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2018, 09:31:19 pm »
I consider threatening tariffs to be strong negotiating, and I recall Reagan imposed tariffs on Japanese electronics.

Remember Reagan? The guy that called for his 11th Commandment. Long forgotten after such a long string of weak candidates, however dignified and dainty, in their many defeats.

We're talking about Trump here.  Reagan may have lurched left on tariffs once, but that isn't the issue at hand.  Which is.... at least from my perspective.... that imposed tariffs would negate the positive economic results from Trump's recent tax reform/cuts.  If all he's doing is lip service (what you call negotiating)... I'm ok with it (even tho it caused lost $$$ in the stock market among some of my friends).  Lip service (BS) is what we're used to from him, after all.   But...

if he follows through with tariffs, I'm not ok with that.  And it will turn out to be a negative on his presidency, even as it delights the idiot left.  Just sayin....



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Re: Trump hits Bush: Invading Iraq 'the single worst decision ever made'
« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2018, 09:33:22 pm »
And the problem with that statement is.... that remains to be seen. 

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I've seen it alleged (here, in fact) that GWB was so bad that he got us Obama and Obamacare.  The question then remains... at the end of Trump's term (assuming he makes it to that end).... what will Trump's election end up getting us?  I shudder to think.

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You have your Drama Queen role down pat.


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... since, as has been pointed out already, he really hasn't accomplished all that much.


And he has had a WHOLE year,with everybody down to your level trying to trip him up and prevent it from happening.

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No wall (not that I think we have to have one).


How much wall did Boy Jorge put up in 8 years on the job? You DO know Trump can't get it done without the support of the support of the alleged Republican Party,right?  Name ONE issue the alleged Republicans you worship  have supported him on.

 
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No repeal of Obamacare,


And he has had a WHOLE YEAR! The horrors? Care to mention the names of any prominent alleged Republicans that have tried to help him? Or Congresscritters with a Big Red R on their chests that did more to repeal ObambaCare with 8 whole years to do it? If so,name them.


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just a repeal of the mandate that can be easily put back into place by the next Demrat administration.


Ahhh! NOW I get it! You think he is a dictator that can just do whatever he wants,any time he wants to do it!

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The biggest budget buster spending bill EVAH passed with his blessing.


The President can veto Congressional and Senate votes? Really? When did this happen,and since it is so easy to do,WHY didn't any of your beloved alleged Republicans get it done in the 8 years BEFORE Trump was elected? Hell,why didn't they JUST PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING? Inquiring minds,and all dat!

 
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Really, the only solid thing I see is the corporate tax reduction.... but with raised tariffs, even that tax relief will end up being short-lived.

And what he did do,you dismiss while NOT mentioning that the alleged Republicans already in office 8 years ago let it all happen.

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No, Trump hasn't done all that much in his first year.  So what horrors will be blamed on him in another 3-4 years?


 Every one you can dream up.

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Scary.

Crocodile Tears? I honestly think your worse nightmare would be Trump getting even half of what he promised to do accomplished.  You NEED him to fail.
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Re: Trump hits Bush: Invading Iraq 'the single worst decision ever made'
« Reply #102 on: March 04, 2018, 09:35:54 pm »
He's good for the crowd who finds m-m-m-monster truck exhibitions to be the height of intellectual stimulation.



BTW...there's nothing wrong with monster trucks.  I'm simply suggesting they aren't an intellectual pursuit.

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ROFLMAO! No wonder you idolize Boy Jorge and the rest of the Bush Crime Family. You think you are an "intellectual,like them." The joke is on you,because you just might be.
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Re: Trump hits Bush: Invading Iraq 'the single worst decision ever made'
« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2018, 09:37:47 pm »
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With all DUE respect,ESAD.

No thanks, @sneakypete, though I appreciate your offer to share your lunch.
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Re: Trump hits Bush: Invading Iraq 'the single worst decision ever made'
« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2018, 09:41:07 pm »
@Suppressed

ROFLMAO! No wonder you idolize Boy Jorge and the rest of the Bush Crime Family. You think you are an "intellectual,like them." The joke is on you,because you just might be.

I've been quite a critic of George Bush, and no doubt I would have been booted from FR early on if I wasn't just a lurker.  And I still have a lot of problems with his presidency.

But there's there's the pathetic little boy in the Oval Office now, and that's an even worse case.
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Re: Trump hits Bush: Invading Iraq 'the single worst decision ever made'
« Reply #105 on: March 04, 2018, 09:45:54 pm »
We're talking about Trump here.  Reagan may have lurched left on tariffs once, but that isn't the issue at hand.  Which is.... at least from my perspective.... that imposed tariffs would negate the positive economic results from Trump's recent tax reform/cuts.  If all he's doing is lip service (what you call negotiating)... I'm ok with it (even tho it caused lost $$$ in the stock market among some of my friends).  Lip service (BS) is what we're used to from him, after all.   But...

if he follows through with tariffs, I'm not ok with that.  And it will turn out to be a negative on his presidency, even as it delights the idiot left.  Just sayin....

You can attack the symptom or the cause. Tariffs are attacking the symptom. And doesn't solve the problem while creating more. Get the environazis out of energy and the EPA and many of these type problems would right themselves. Energy is the life blood on any modern economy/industry. Lowering the cost of energy lowers the cost of virtually everything making America more competitive across the board. It also raises the living standards of everyone in the country.

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Re: Trump hits Bush: Invading Iraq 'the single worst decision ever made'
« Reply #106 on: March 04, 2018, 09:49:53 pm »
Soo..... you consider imposing tariffs to be "Conservative" then?

No I consider it to be what Reagan did, for the same reasons.  Do you have any idea about the catalyst for the Japanese to build electronics and auto plants in the US?

The word "conservative," by itself no longer impresses me.

Playing word games, labels, with people that prefer dignified defeat, and winning word parsing contests, no longer impresses me.

 
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Re: Trump hits Bush: Invading Iraq 'the single worst decision ever made'
« Reply #107 on: March 04, 2018, 09:50:13 pm »
@XenaLee

You have your Drama Queen role down pat.

Um.... I'm merely stating facts and opinions.... as is usually the case among members posting on a political debate/discussion forum (duh).   You have a problem with my opinion?  Tough chit.  Try pulling on your big boy panties and dealing with it.....cuz....  I'm not going anywhere.... :laugh:
 

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And he has had a WHOLE year,with everybody down to your level trying to trip him up and prevent it from happening.

Everybody down to MY level?  lol   I have supported him on any actual conservative-leaning policies he has had or implemented.... right here on this forum.  Tariffs ain't one of em.

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How much wall did Boy Jorge put up in 8 years on the job? You DO know Trump can't get it done without the support of the support of the alleged Republican Party,right?  Name ONE issue the alleged Republicans you worship  have supported him on.

You're friggin nuts.... bona fide.   Where the Hell did you pull that idea out of (nevermind, I don't really wanna know).... that I worship Republicans???  Obviously, you haven't been paying attention to my stance on anything....including GWB.

You're just doing the usual knee-jerk lashback over ANY dissent at all re: Trump policies & idiocy..... tsk tsk.  And then you have the nerve to call anyone ELSE a drama queen?  Hilarious!
 
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And he has had a WHOLE YEAR! The horrors? Care to mention the names of any prominent alleged Republicans that have tried to help him? Or Congresscritters with a Big Red R on their chests that did more to repeal ObambaCare with 8 whole years to do it? If so,name them.

ADD much?  Try sticking to the topic at hand, would ya?  I am no fan of the GOPe.  NOT the issue on this thread.

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Ahhh! NOW I get it! You think he is a dictator that can just do whatever he wants,any time he wants to do it!

You don't get it or anything, apparently.    But your projection re: that drama queen crack is becoming more and more obvious....lol.
 
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The President can veto Congressional and Senate votes? Really? When did this happen,and since it is so easy to do,WHY didn't any of your beloved alleged Republicans get it done in the 8 years BEFORE Trump was elected? Hell,why didn't they JUST PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING? Inquiring minds,and all dat!

Again.... my "beloved Republicans"???   What the cluck?   You're delusional at best, on some serious crack at worst.   :silly:
 
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And what he did do,you dismiss while NOT mentioning that the alleged Republicans already in office 8 years ago let it all happen.

Now I don't even know what the hell you are blathering about.  Seriously.  Mindless babble aside, can you address the issue maybe?  (hope springs)
 

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Every one you can dream up.

Crocodile Tears? I honestly think your worse nightmare would be Trump getting even half of what he promised to do accomplished.  You NEED him to fail.

Dude, you need some serious therapy.   Get help. 
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Re: Trump hits Bush: Invading Iraq 'the single worst decision ever made'
« Reply #108 on: March 04, 2018, 09:53:42 pm »
You can attack the symptom or the cause. Tariffs are attacking the symptom. And doesn't solve the problem while creating more. Get the environazis out of energy and the EPA and many of these type problems would right themselves. Energy is the life blood on any modern economy/industry. Lowering the cost of energy lowers the cost of virtually everything making America more competitive across the board. It also raises the living standards of everyone in the country.

I can agree to that.  But... tell that to Trump, not me.    I don't think he "gets" it.
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Re: Trump hits Bush: Invading Iraq 'the single worst decision ever made'
« Reply #109 on: March 04, 2018, 10:26:56 pm »
Locking the topic for the time being.

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