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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #300 on: March 02, 2018, 03:20:07 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on March 02, 2018, 12:36:23 am
They just don't have the right to KEEP them. They can NOT keep them without a court order. Period.

Let's talk real world.



Do you know the rate at which citizens get their firearms properly returned to them?

I've worked in various law enforcement offices, including ranges and evidence/storage rooms.  I've seen everything from antique muskets up to recoilless rifles sitting there.  I've talked with multiple LEOs who've admitted that they make it very difficult for people to get their lawful arms back. 

My brother is a detective who is disgusted by how this is handled many times.  In fact, he's considering a run for sheriff next year and this is one thing we were just discussing last week that he'd like to reform.

Sure, in theory, it's great to let the government grab all the guns they want on a whim.  But in reality, we need to be MUCH more cautious than you seem to want, before grabbing someone's guns.

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #301 on: March 02, 2018, 03:30:04 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on March 02, 2018, 01:11:31 am
I have a friend that tried to off himself with his lever action 30/30. This was 40 years ago,and his left arm is still a flipper. He had to get out of the hospital and off the pain pills to get his 30/30 back,but he still has it today,and he did NOT have to hire a lawyer. I just took him to the Sheriff's office and we asking him "when the hell is he going to get his rifle back?" after he got tired of asking the cop that responded to the shots fired call. He had it the next day.

And I'll take the reality of many over the anecdote of one.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #302 on: March 02, 2018, 03:30:44 am »
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In other words, you're throwing out a stinking red herring, because Trump explicitly talked about taking guns without due process and then following up with due process...
...and now you're saying that all you're talking about is due process.

How about sticking to the topic?

This thread has wandered like a high-speed drill bit on a sheet of steel plate.  Wish I could knock it off my "Latest posts to me" page without going back and deleting all my post.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #303 on: March 02, 2018, 03:46:47 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on March 02, 2018, 02:55:31 am
@roamer_1

Are you turning into a drama queen,too? What,you think some shrink is going to declare you a mental basket case while you are at home minding your own business,and authorize the cops to go get  you?

Have  you ever heard of a class of people called "Judges"? Or another class called "Lawyers"? The "lawyer" people LOVE to sue the hell out of city,state,and federal agencies because that's where the deep pockets and bad lawyers live.

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Yeah... All you missed is doctors and you'd have pretty well hit every sort I don't care much for.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #304 on: March 02, 2018, 05:25:21 am »
@sneakypete

You said to me, "You also believe in Holy Spooks and all sorts of other foolish crap."

You are wasting "alphabet letters" and your "fingers" when you write such to me.  You should know by now I don't respond to personal attacks; I don't have word fights with posters.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #305 on: March 02, 2018, 06:30:35 am »
Quote from: Suppressed on March 02, 2018, 03:20:07 am



Sure, in theory, it's great to let the government grab all the guns they want on a whim.  But in reality, we need to be MUCH more cautious than you seem to want, before grabbing someone's guns.

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WHERE have I or anyone else wrote any such thing?
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #306 on: March 02, 2018, 10:54:04 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on March 01, 2018, 09:15:12 pm
@txradioguy

Are you REALLY so freaking dense you can't understand the difference between Hillary or Obomber and Trump? Both Bubbette! and Bathhouse Barry are life-long communists that have wanted the government to seize guns from citizens since they were teens.

Trump,on the other hand,owns guns,has a CCW permit in NYC,and has a personal history of being pro-gun.

What the HELL is the matter with you people? Are you so in love with the alleged Republican Party Usual Suspects for President that you have lost every bit of common sense? Up to this date Trump has been the most conservative president since Reagan,and all you clowns have done since day 1 is scream about "he's just like Hillary and Obama! WAAAAH! WAAAAH! WAAAH!"

Great post, @sneakypete !   :beer:

 

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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #307 on: March 02, 2018, 11:22:09 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on March 01, 2018, 05:03:30 pm
Yeah, no kidding. Ah, what the hell... We didn't really need that whole Rule of Law thing anyway.
Every single one of my libtard relatives tell me how much they don't like/ trust the police/ government, but now all of a sudden they want the cops and government being the only ones with guns. You can't make this shit up. My nephew (career Navy) actually told me:"No one needs an assault weapon with a high capacity magazine." Really how about the Korean shop keepers in L.A. during the Rodney King riots, or the guy in Texas that stopped the Church shooter that killed 20+ people, using the exact same weapon as the killer.
D@MN if someone is breaking into my house I want at least as much fire power as they have and 2 more magazines.
Seriously I really wish stupid burned.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #308 on: March 02, 2018, 12:29:20 pm »
Quote from: verga on March 02, 2018, 11:22:09 am
Every single one of my libtard relatives tell me how much they don't like/ trust the police/ government, but now all of a sudden they want the cops and government being the only ones with guns. You can't make this shit up. My nephew (career Navy) actually told me:"No one needs an assault weapon with a high capacity magazine." Really how about the Korean shop keepers in L.A. during the Rodney King riots, or the guy in Texas that stopped the Church shooter that killed 20+ people, using the exact same weapon as the killer.
D@MN if someone is breaking into my house I want at least as much fire power as they have and 2 more magazines.
Seriously I really wish stupid burned.

Now here is a reason I am glad I have an AR. Just across the street the house bought by Chinese with cash was raided by SWAT just this week. Part of a 18 house Chinese Drug Cartel  western WA bust hat was going  on. 16 large boxes of pot they took out of there. We never knew this was going on. They were quite, kept to themselves, and the curtains never opened for the 3 years they lived there. It would explain the Uhaul truck they would sometimes park in the driveway with nothing going in or out of it....before midnight anyway.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #309 on: March 02, 2018, 01:27:38 pm »
Quote from: LadyLiberty on March 01, 2018, 08:51:23 pm
I would like to add English Common Law and terriers to that list.
They can keep the D@MN Corgis. I hate those little B@$bleep.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #310 on: March 02, 2018, 01:42:19 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 02, 2018, 03:30:44 am
This thread has wandered like a high-speed drill bit on a sheet of steel plate.  Wish I could knock it off my "Latest posts to me" page without going back and deleting all my post.

Damn Sam, you know nothing stays on topic after the 4th page.  It is some kinda interweb rule.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #311 on: March 02, 2018, 01:45:12 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 02, 2018, 01:42:19 pm
Damn Sam, you know nothing stays on topic after the 4th page.  It is some kinda interweb rule.

Maybe we should lengthen the pages?  Might improve the attention spans....
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #312 on: March 02, 2018, 01:47:56 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 02, 2018, 01:45:12 pm
Maybe we should lengthen the pages?  Might improve the attention spans....

40 years ago Nixon said the the Average Americans attention span was about as long as his d**k.

I believe with shrinkage it is much shorter today.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #313 on: March 02, 2018, 02:03:02 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 02, 2018, 01:47:56 pm
40 years ago Nixon said the the Average Americans attention span was about as long as his d**k.

I believe with shrinkage it is much shorter today.

Proof of this is when walking out of a great movie, a common complaint you'll hear being murmured is "It was too long."

At one time movies were epic events, some with intermissions.

Today, Americans want an epic movie to be about an hour and fifteen minutes.

Heck, don't get me started on church rules for sermon times being no more than 30 minutes.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #314 on: March 02, 2018, 02:08:24 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on March 02, 2018, 02:03:02 pm
Proof of this is when walking out of a great movie, a common complaint you'll hear being murmured is "It was too long."

At one time movies were epic events, some with intermissions.

Today, Americans want an epic movie to be about an hour and fifteen minutes.

Heck, don't get me started on church rules for sermon times being no more than 30 minutes.

Yeah remember the good old days when you had to make fire with two sticks.  Ahhh those were the days.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #315 on: March 02, 2018, 02:18:13 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on March 02, 2018, 02:08:24 pm
Yeah remember the good old days when you had to make fire with two sticks.  Ahhh those were the days.

I doubt most urban yutes have any clue that one can start a fire with two sticks.

They are limited to whatever App and video plays on their smartphones.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #316 on: March 02, 2018, 02:20:57 pm »
Looking back, we had, in the person of Teddy Roosevelt, the finest President in the history of this country. He had the spirit and determination that matched the times and the land. Then the women got the vote, and everything went to hell. While our boys was overseas fighting the Kaiser, the women got Prohibition put in. Drinking and gambling and whoring were declared unlawful. All those things which come natural to men became crimes.  Now they want to take our guns away.  Damn shame
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #317 on: March 02, 2018, 02:22:43 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on March 02, 2018, 02:18:13 pm
I doubt most urban yutes have any clue that one can start a fire with two sticks.

They are limited to whatever App and video plays on their smartphones.

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You blame the yute, I blame their parents and grandparents.
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« Reply #318 on: March 02, 2018, 02:24:00 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on March 02, 2018, 02:22:43 pm
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You blame the yute, I blame their parents and grandparents.

I blame Apple.

Let's sue them and get rich.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #319 on: March 02, 2018, 02:24:11 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 02, 2018, 02:20:57 pm
Looking back, we had, in the person of Teddy Roosevelt, the finest President in the history of this country. He had the spirit and determination that matched the times and the land. Then the women got the vote, and everything went to hell. While our boys was overseas fighting the Kaiser, the women got Prohibition put in. Drinking and gambling and whoring were declared unlawful. All those things which come natural to men became crimes.  Now they want to take our guns away.  Damn shame

@Wingnut
We're just asking for commonsense reasonable controls on the right for women to vote.   Any reasonable person would agree.

its for public safety afterall
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #320 on: March 02, 2018, 02:25:06 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 02, 2018, 02:20:57 pm
Looking back, we had, in the person of Teddy Roosevelt, the finest President in the history of this country. He had the spirit and determination that matched the times and the land. Then the women got the vote, and everything went to hell. While our boys was overseas fighting the Kaiser, the women got Prohibition put in. Drinking and gambling and whoring were declared unlawful. All those things which come natural to men became crimes.  Now they want to take our guns away.  Damn shame

You're cute when you're waxing poetic, Wingy.
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« Reply #321 on: March 02, 2018, 02:28:36 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on March 02, 2018, 02:25:06 pm
You're cute when you're waxing poetic, Wingy.

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« Reply #322 on: March 02, 2018, 02:30:45 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on March 02, 2018, 02:24:11 pm
We're just asking for commonsense reasonable controls on the right for women to vote.   Any reasonable person would agree.

its for public safety afterall

Perfect!

Though we better be careful treading on that, @RoosGirl might come in here and give us boys a whuppin'.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #323 on: March 02, 2018, 02:32:39 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on March 02, 2018, 02:30:45 pm
Perfect!

Though we better be careful treading on that, @RoosGirl might come in here and give us boys a whuppin'.

And Jazzy!  LMFAO
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #324 on: March 02, 2018, 02:34:48 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on March 02, 2018, 02:30:45 pm
Perfect!

Though we better be careful treading on that, @RoosGirl might come in here and give us boys a whuppin'.

@INVAR
heck those yankee girls aren't that tough

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