Dick's Sporting Goods CEO on decision to no longer sell assault-style rifles: 'We don’t want to be a

[Cyber Liberty]

I say we drop him off in the middle of Baltimore at 10 Friday night and see how he fares.  He gets a bottle of water and a body cam.  This could be a whole new reality show.

Baltimore?  Maybe a cop friend can give him a lift in the back of a van?

[Jazzhead]

@RoosGirl @Jazzhead

The point of registration now is to make it easy to confiscate later. Anyone that supporters
registration now will support confiscation later. It is the old Marxist bait a switch.

That's paranoia, not reasoned argument. 

[driftdiver]

I say we drop him off in the middle of Baltimore at 10 Friday night and see how he fares.  He gets a bottle of water and a body cam.  This could be a whole new reality show.

@RoosGirl
He will probably answer that it would make firearms used to commit crimes traceable.  Another fallacy since very few legally owned firearms are used in crimes, especially in those cities.  Even without the draconian laws they have there the firearms would be illegally possessed. 

[Cyber Liberty]

That's paranoia, not reasoned argument.

IOW, you can't refute it.  Calling insanity is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

[driftdiver]

That's paranoia, not reasoned argument.

@Jazzhead
When history provides precedent after precedent then its not paranoia.

De Nile is more then just a river.

[driftdiver]

IOW, you can't refute it.  Calling insanity is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

@Cyber Liberty
You saw how he attacks the messenger and doesn't address the specific question.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Jazzhead
When history provides precedent after precedent then its not paranoia.

De Nile is more then just a river.

Calling somebody "paranoid" has the added benefit of pigeon-holing somebody so he can ignore the argument they just used to defeat him.

[WingNot]

I say we drop him off in the middle of Baltimore at 10 Friday night and see how he fares.  He gets a bottle of water and a body cam.  This could be a whole new reality show.

I'll drive.  Hell I'll even slow down to 30 mph while you and Cyber push him out of the van.

[INVAR]

That's paranoia, not reasoned argument.

We don't care what you call it.

Registration is the first step towards short-order confiscation as we view and understand it.

We are not going to comply with any orders, legislation or commands to do so, and any attempts made to enforce such efforts will be met with deadly force and you will have bought yourself that war we are warning you is coming should your meddlesome advocacies actually come to pass.

[driftdiver]

I'll drive.  Hell I'll even slow down to 30 mph while you and Cyber push him out of the van.

@Wingnut
You're braver then me, I'd rather drive through Bhagdad at night then the southside of Chicago or Baltimore.

[WingNot]

@Wingnut
You're braver then me, I'd rather drive through Bhagdad at night then the southside of Chicago or Baltimore.

I ain't skeered.  Guns are outlawed in those cities.   The Police will protect me.

[INVAR]

@Wingnut
You're braver then me, I'd rather drive through Bhagdad at night then the southside of Chicago or Baltimore.

WEST, West side of Chicago.

Daley and Emmanuel cleaned out a good chunk of the South side and shipped the Section 8 ghetto rats out to the suburbs and the Near West side from what relatives have to say.

[WingNot]

My daddy was a cop on the east side of Chicago
Back in the U.S.A. back in the bad old days
In the heat of a summer night
In the land of the dollar bill
When the town of Chicago died
And they talk about it still....

WEST, West side of Chicago.

Daley and Emmanuel cleaned out a good chunk of the South side and shipped the Section 8 ghetto rats out to the suburbs and the Near West side from what relatives have to say.

[Jazzhead]

@Cyber Liberty
You saw how he attacks the messenger and doesn't address the specific question.

Welcome to my world.  I've probably received over the years a thousand responses to my posts that consist of personal insults without any sort of substantive response.  Now you folks are fantasizing how you'd like to see me harmed.   

But concluding that registration of firearms leads to confiscation IS paranoia.  The Constitution protects your right to defend yourself.   Registration of motor vehicles - for purposes of public safety - hasn't led to confiscation or infringement of the right to travel.   

[Cyber Liberty]

Welcome to my world.  I've probably received over the years a thousand responses to my posts that consist of personal insults without any sort of substantive response.   

But concluding that registration of firearms leads to confiscation IS paranoia.  The Constitution protects your right to defend yourself.   Registration of motor vehicles - for purposes of public safety - hasn't led to confiscation or infringement of the right to travel.

Well, you find being bested in an argument to be a "personal insult," so I imagine your entire street is paved with them.  If you would stop ignoring losing arguments, like the straw man I highlighted in this post I'm quoting, you would probably be a basket case of tears over the insults that have been dealt you.

[RoosGirl]

But concluding that registration of firearms leads to confiscation IS paranoia.  The Constitution protects your right to defend yourself.   Registration of motor vehicles - for purposes of public safety - hasn't led to confiscation or infringement of the right to travel.

The hell it hasn't.   For one thing is allows the State to tax you for your "right" to travel.

[INVAR]

Now you folks are fantasizing how you'd like to see me harmed.

We haven't even begun to imagine or discuss the kinds of ways and methods of dealing with tyrants and their advocates who embark on imposing the tyranny they say is necessary for public safety.

But should meddlesome tyrants manage to attempt to do so, the creative and ingenious imaginations of the folks on this board should keep you up for nights on end.

But concluding that registration of firearms leads to confiscation IS paranoia. 

Like I said, we don't care if you think it is.  Just be warned that we view it as the first step to confiscation and we are not going to comply with any registration demands.

When the agents of meddlesome tyranny come to impose such demands - well, you'll get to see that war we are warning you about.

[roamer_1]

Welcome to my world.  I've probably received over the years a thousand responses to my posts that consist of personal insults without any sort of substantive response.  Now you folks are fantasizing how you'd like to see me harmed.   

Naw. All I saw was folks offering to give you a ride to a safe town - Towns that MUST be safe, because their gun laws are (in)famously strict.
 There ain't ANY guns in Chicago. There can't be. It's against the law. 

But concluding that registration of firearms leads to confiscation IS paranoia.  The Constitution protects your right to defend yourself.   

Until the 'living document' decides another way, right?

No. History is repeated by fools. It is not paranoid to show that historically, EVERY_SINGLE_TIME weapons were registered, weapons were confiscated.

Registration of motor vehicles - for purposes of public safety - hasn't led to confiscation or infringement of the right to travel.

It also hasn't lead to 'public safety'.

[txradioguy]

I say own all the guns you want.  Just be responsible and register them.

Someone is letting their inner Marxist out.

[Cyber Liberty]

Someone is letting their inner Marxist out.

It has me letting my inner anarchist out.  I will not comply. 

[txradioguy]

It has me letting my inner anarchist out.  I will not comply.

I'm right there with you.

[txradioguy]

But concluding that registration of firearms leads to confiscation IS paranoia.

Please point out one time in history where gun registration didn't lead to confiscation.

[Jazzhead]

Please point out one time in history where gun registration didn't lead to confiscation.

Right here, right now, in the United States of America. 

Because of the Constitution's protection of the RKBA, the only history that's relevant as far as I'm concerned is U.S. history.  My understanding is that the following states and the District of Columbia currently require registration of some or all firearms:  D.C., Hawaii (all firearms)  New York (handguns only),  California and Maryland (new residents only) and California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey and New York (certain pre-ban assault rifles or 50 caliber rifles).   A couple of these states require licensure in addition to registration. 

As far as I can tell,  these states' registration regimes have not led to confiscation of guns lawfully registered (outside of situations where the gunowner was adjudicated unfit to own guns for reasons unrelated to violation of registration/licensure requirements).  Please provide examples to prove me wrong. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Right here, right now, in the United States of America. 

IOW, @txradioguy, he can't come up with an example.   

@Jazzhead I don't think you're an idiot, but you sure as Hell think the rest of us on this forum are.  You insult everybody's intelligence with a dumbass statement like that.

[austingirl]

They're right, they will face criticism and lose sales. Great business plan/s.

But I bet their self-righteousness is off the charts.