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Think of those days when many shows had 39 new episodes every season. Think of the writers desperately trying to come up with new ideas.
It seems many of the old westerns had similar plot devices:
 the hero is going to be hanged by mistake and his family or friends have to save him,
or the hero has to stop an innocent person from being hanged.
 the hero did somebody wrong during the Civil War or somewhere and somebody is seeking vengeance
the hero falls in love but the love interest contracts a terrible disease and dies ....or is killed defending the hero from the vengeance-seeking stranger.
the bank was or is being robbed and the hero has to stop the robbery or catch the robbers
the fast gun is in town and the hero must face down the fast gun.
The crooked banker or big man in town who controls everything and the hero takes him down and frees the townpeople.
All those.
If they didn't want to repeat those plot devices they could always go to the quicksand episodes. Yes, it seemed quicksand was over the west and people were constantly falling into the stuff and just barely getting out.
The Evil Twin or hero lookalike episodes were also fairly common.

You wouldn't believe how much that applies to Sci-Fi series'. So many times when I was watching Andromeda or any of them I thought, I've seen this before. It was an episode of TNG or SG1 or Outer Limits or whatever.

So many of the episodes in all the various Space/Science Themed shows are remakes of each other. Sometimes I even recognize the set they are using or reusing you might say. If you take all the Sci-Fi series on TV including The Outer Limits, there is at least a 10% overlap where they are all doing the same show. The characters are different, the set may be staged differently, but the plot and the theme of the show itself is identical.

I have actually become confused by this. I am watching a show which I know I have never seen before, and yet I know I have seen it before somewhere. And I had seen it before. It was just under a different name and with different characters.
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Well, it looks like the fears of it being SJW just because they put in some characters who weren't mayonnaise complexion we're unfounded.

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Well, it looks like the fears of it being SJW just because they put in some characters who weren't mayonnaise complexion we're unfounded.

You're a connoisseur of the Sci-Fi/Fantasy genre, so you probably saw it.  What did you think?  Was it better than the last movie (Which I really hated)?  Personally, I don't really have a problem with the casting, I'm more interested in how the characters were developed.
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You're a connoisseur of the Sci-Fi/Fantasy genre, so you probably saw it.  What did you think?  Was it better than the last movie (Which I really hated)?  Personally, I don't really have a problem with the casting, I'm more interested in how the characters were developed.

It was actually great. Parker Posey as doctor Smith was one of the best casting choices. Great writing and character development. It puts the old movie and series to shame.

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It was actually great. Parker Posey as doctor Smith was one of the best casting choices. Great writing and character development. It puts the old movie and series to shame.

Thanks!  I knew I'd get the skinny from you!
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I liked him in Babylon 5.

I also liked him in Deep Space Nine

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I started watching it. Put your preconceptions aside, it’s an excellent iteration. This ain’t your grandfathers Lost In Space.

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Well, it looks like the fears of it being SJW just because they put in some characters who weren't mayonnaise complexion we're unfounded.

I watched the 1st three episodes last night to get a feel for it.  1st... let me say I like the robot. He may be the best actor in the series so far.   I hope he starts talking more as the series goes on cus "Danger Will Robinson" can only be said for so long.

B. Is this show written by a women? Cus they sure cut the testicles off of John Robinson and his wife has them in a mason jar and hidden in the gun locker.  BTW, there is a Lot of room in there cuz she won't allow guns on the Jupiter 2.   What a surprise.   Hey at least they have knifes to kill those fuel sucking eels. 
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I watched the 1st three episodes last night to get a feel for it.  1st... let me say I like the robot. He may be the best actor in the series so far.   I hope he starts talking more as the series goes on cus "Danger Will Robinson" can only be said for so long.

B. Is this show written by a women? Cus they sure cut the testicles off of John Robinson and his wife has them in a mason jar and hidden in the gun locker.  BTW, there is a Lot of room in there cuz she won't allow guns on the Jupiter 2.   What a surprise.   Hey at least they have knifes to kill those fuel sucking eels.

Let me tell ya something, buddy.  When I am searching for a new novel to read, and I tend to gravitate to sci-fi, fantasy or horror, I flat out refuse to read novels with a chick listed as the author, for the reasons you listed above 9 times out of 10 in previous experience.

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Let me tell ya something, buddy.  When I am searching for a new novel to read, and I tend to gravitate to sci-fi, fantasy or horror, I flat out refuse to read novels with a chick listed as the author, for the reasons you listed above 9 times out of 10 in previous experience.
Not just that, but I don't like to wallow through five pages of someone analyzing their feelings in the middle of a battle. Phooey!
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Not just that, but I don't like to wallow through five pages of someone analyzing their feelings in the middle of a battle. Phooey!

The professor told his class one day: "Today we will experiment with a new form called the tandem story. The process is simple. Each person will pair off with the person sitting to his or her immediate right. As homework tonight, one of you will write the first paragraph of a short story. You will e-mail your partner that paragraph and send another copy to me. The partner will read the first paragraph and then add another paragraph to the story and send it back, also sending another copy to me. The first person will then add a third paragraph, and so on back-and-forth.

Remember to re-read what has been written each time in order to keep the story coherent. There is to be absolutely NO talking outside of the e-mails and anything you wish to say must be written in the e-mail. The story is over when both agree a conclusion has been reached."

The following was actually turned in by two of his English students:
Rebecca and Gary.

THE STORY:

(first paragraph by Rebecca)

At first, Laurie couldn't decide which kind of tea she wanted. The chamomile, which used to be her favorite for lazy evenings at home, now reminded her too much of Carl, who once said, in happier times, that he liked chamomile.
But she felt she must now, at all costs, keep her mind off Carl. His possessiveness was suffocating, and if she thought about him too much her asthma started acting up again. So chamomile was out of the question.

(second paragraph by Gary)

Meanwhile, Advance Sergeant Carl Harris, leader of the attack squadron now in orbit over Skylon 4, had more important things to think about than the neuroses of an air-headed asthmatic bimbo named Laurie with whom he had spent one sweaty night over a year ago. "A.S. Harris to Geostation 17," he said into his transgalactic communicator. " Polar orbit established. No sign of resistance so far..." But before he could sign off a bluish particle beam flashed out of nowhere and blasted a hole through his ship's cargo bay. The jolt from the direct hit sent him flying out of his seat and across the ####pit.

(Rebecca)

He bumped his head and died almost immediately, but not before he felt one last pang of regret for psychically brutalizing the one woman who had ever had feelings for him. Soon afterwards, Earth stopped its pointless hostilities towards the peaceful farmers of Skylon 4. "Congress Passes Law Permanently Abolishing War and Space Travel," Laurie read in her newspaper one morning. The news simultaneously excited her and bored her. She stared out the window, dreaming of her youth, when the days had passed unhurriedly and carefree, with no newspaper to read, no television to distract her from her sense of innocent wonder at all the beautiful things around her. "Why must one lose one's innocence to become a woman?" she pondered wistfully.

(Gary)

Little did she know, but she had less than 10 seconds to live. Thousands of miles above the city, the Anu'udrian mothership launched the first of its lithium fusion missiles. The dimwitted wimpy peaceniks who pushed the Unilateral Aerospace disarmament Treaty through the congress had left Earth a defenseless target for the hostile alien empires who were determined to destroy the human race. Within two hours after the passage of the treaty the Anu'udrian ships were on course for Earth, carrying enough firepower to pulverize the entire planet.
With no one to stop them, they swiftly initiated their diabolical plan. The lithium fusion missile entered the atmosphere unimpeded. The President, in his top-secret mobile submarine headquarters on the ocean floor off the coast of Guam, felt the inconceivably massive explosion, which vaporized poor, stupid Laurie.

(Rebecca)

This is absurd. I refuse to continue this mockery of literature. My writing partner is a violent, chauvinistic semi-literate adolescent.

(Gary)

Yeah? Well, my writing partner is a self-centered tedious neurotic whose attempts at writing are the literary equivalent of Valium. " Oh, shall I have

chamomile tea? Or shall I have some other sort of F--KING TEA??? Oh no, what am I to do? I'm such an air headed bimbo who reads too many Danielle Steele novels!"

(Rebecca)
Arsehole.

(Gary)
B*tch.

(Rebecca)
F**K YOU - YOU NEANDERTHAL!!

(Gary)
In your dreams, Ho. Go drink some tea.

(TEACHER)
A+ - I really liked this one.

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The professor told his class one day: "Today we will experiment with a new form called the tandem story. The process is simple. Each person will pair off with the person sitting to his or her immediate right. As homework tonight, one of you will write the first paragraph of a short story. You will e-mail your partner that paragraph and send another copy to me. The partner will read the first paragraph and then add another paragraph to the story and send it back, also sending another copy to me. The first person will then add a third paragraph, and so on back-and-forth.

Remember to re-read what has been written each time in order to keep the story coherent. There is to be absolutely NO talking outside of the e-mails and anything you wish to say must be written in the e-mail. The story is over when both agree a conclusion has been reached."

The following was actually turned in by two of his English students:
Rebecca and Gary.

THE STORY:

(first paragraph by Rebecca)

At first, Laurie couldn't decide which kind of tea she wanted. The chamomile, which used to be her favorite for lazy evenings at home, now reminded her too much of Carl, who once said, in happier times, that he liked chamomile.
But she felt she must now, at all costs, keep her mind off Carl. His possessiveness was suffocating, and if she thought about him too much her asthma started acting up again. So chamomile was out of the question.

(second paragraph by Gary)

Meanwhile, Advance Sergeant Carl Harris, leader of the attack squadron now in orbit over Skylon 4, had more important things to think about than the neuroses of an air-headed asthmatic bimbo named Laurie with whom he had spent one sweaty night over a year ago. "A.S. Harris to Geostation 17," he said into his transgalactic communicator. " Polar orbit established. No sign of resistance so far..." But before he could sign off a bluish particle beam flashed out of nowhere and blasted a hole through his ship's cargo bay. The jolt from the direct hit sent him flying out of his seat and across the ####pit.

(Rebecca)

He bumped his head and died almost immediately, but not before he felt one last pang of regret for psychically brutalizing the one woman who had ever had feelings for him. Soon afterwards, Earth stopped its pointless hostilities towards the peaceful farmers of Skylon 4. "Congress Passes Law Permanently Abolishing War and Space Travel," Laurie read in her newspaper one morning. The news simultaneously excited her and bored her. She stared out the window, dreaming of her youth, when the days had passed unhurriedly and carefree, with no newspaper to read, no television to distract her from her sense of innocent wonder at all the beautiful things around her. "Why must one lose one's innocence to become a woman?" she pondered wistfully.

(Gary)

Little did she know, but she had less than 10 seconds to live. Thousands of miles above the city, the Anu'udrian mothership launched the first of its lithium fusion missiles. The dimwitted wimpy peaceniks who pushed the Unilateral Aerospace disarmament Treaty through the congress had left Earth a defenseless target for the hostile alien empires who were determined to destroy the human race. Within two hours after the passage of the treaty the Anu'udrian ships were on course for Earth, carrying enough firepower to pulverize the entire planet.
With no one to stop them, they swiftly initiated their diabolical plan. The lithium fusion missile entered the atmosphere unimpeded. The President, in his top-secret mobile submarine headquarters on the ocean floor off the coast of Guam, felt the inconceivably massive explosion, which vaporized poor, stupid Laurie.

(Rebecca)

This is absurd. I refuse to continue this mockery of literature. My writing partner is a violent, chauvinistic semi-literate adolescent.

(Gary)

Yeah? Well, my writing partner is a self-centered tedious neurotic whose attempts at writing are the literary equivalent of Valium. " Oh, shall I have

chamomile tea? Or shall I have some other sort of F--KING TEA??? Oh no, what am I to do? I'm such an air headed bimbo who reads too many Danielle Steele novels!"

(Rebecca)
Arsehole.

(Gary)
B*tch.

(Rebecca)
F**K YOU - YOU NEANDERTHAL!!

(Gary)
In your dreams, Ho. Go drink some tea.

(TEACHER)
A+ - I really liked this one.
One thing I've noticed in the past twenty years  concerning  tv shows/movies with crime as a subject is the transformation from simply the cops trying to find out who the killer is into many times some sort of psychologically-based show revealing all sorts of problems with women and minorites being oppressed with solving the crime in many cases being a secondary issue. Tackling some sort of social justice problem seems to be the obsession of many modern writers, even in crime shows.
I've been a fan of British mysteries and cop shows for many years, but I've noticed the trend towards incorporating SJ themes into many episodes has left me quite cynical.
The wife and I like to watch the British crime series "Endeavor" based on the "Inspector Morse" series with John Thaw. The "Endeavor" series shows him  as a young detective.
In one the first episodes, it showed the white Morse having a black girl friend. I wondered how common was that in 1950s Britain?  Then I discovered that the writer/creator of the new series was a female intent on having the hero have a minority girl friend. Her quote was that she felt "it was time" to show something like that. For SJ reasons of course.
Beware all programs that have single females, usually of the liberal persuasion, writing the episodes. They will bore you to death with their SJ themes and endless pyschological  episodes. And they will, as in the case of a series about two female  police officers (Scott and Bailey), intentionally demonize all the males as being sexist brutes or too stupid to walk and chew gum.  Or both.
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Pretty much why I haven't watched any "new" shows in about 20 years.

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Pretty much why I haven't watched any "new" shows in about 20 years.

The leftie politically correct bias in all (or most) of the "new" shows has turned off about half of the nation.  I'm wondering how they can afford to keep putting out these "shows" with the dismal viewership and box office results they must be experiencing.  I know I have personally turned off and tuned out of any shows by the usual suspect loudmouth Hollyweird lefties that have spouted off against anyone on the right.  Actors that I previously liked and respected have been added to that list over the past two decades.....

and the list is still (ever) growing.

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One thing I've noticed in the past twenty years  concerning  tv shows/movies with crime as a subject is the transformation from simply the cops trying to find out who the killer is into many times some sort of psychologically-based show revealing all sorts of problems with women and minorites being oppressed with solving the crime in many cases being a secondary issue. Tackling some sort of social justice problem seems to be the obsession of many modern writers, even in crime shows.
I've been a fan of British mysteries and cop shows for many years, but I've noticed the trend towards incorporating SJ themes into many episodes has left me quite cynical.
The wife and I like to watch the British crime series "Endeavor" based on the "Inspector Morse" series with John Thaw. The "Endeavor" series shows him  as a young detective.
In one the first episodes, it showed the white Morse having a black girl friend. I wondered how common was that in 1950s Britain?  Then I discovered that the writer/creator of the new series was a female intent on having the hero have a minority girl friend. Her quote was that she felt "it was time" to show something like that. For SJ reasons of course.
Beware all programs that have single females, usually of the liberal persuasion, writing the episodes. They will bore you to death with their SJ themes and endless pyschological  episodes. And they will, as in the case of a series about two female  police officers (Scott and Bailey), intentionally demonize all the males as being sexist brutes or too stupid to walk and chew gum.  Or both.
I noticed a good 20 years ago that all I needed to do to see what the next big putsch from the left over social issues would be is to check out where the 'edgy' comedians were going, and pretty soon the characters would start showing up in sitcoms and 'acclaimed' drama. Now the stuff is so mainstreamed guys on vet shows are bringing the cat their 'husband' bought them, and lesbian characters are as common as the stuff in the litterbox. Hannibal* seems to have been getting a lot of play lately, so I reckon that's next (*Lecter, not the Carthaginian).
As the matters come up, the show goes down and is no longer watched. Half the nooz is populated with Degenerates and Pooper, and others who haven't been outed, so the left has taken the stage and is not just 'promoting' their stuff, but excluding other thought. The other wing of the programming comes via the public schools which are overrun with that leftist groupthink, too, and which find ways to eliminate the renegades who don't buy that stuff.
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The leftie politically correct bias in all (or most) of the "new" shows has turned off about half of the nation.  I'm wondering how they can afford to keep putting out these "shows" with the dismal viewership and box office results they must be experiencing.  I know I have personally turned off and tuned out of any shows by the usual suspect loudmouth Hollyweird lefties that have spouted off against anyone on the right.  Actors that I previously liked and respected have been added to that list over the past two decades.....

and the list is still (ever) growing.

If you haven't already guessed the reason the Jupiter(s)  (There are more than one this time) are bound for beautiful unspoiled Alpha Centaur is because the Earth is dying and facing man made climate change, wars, famine, and other various and sundry society-ending problems.   
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If you haven't already guessed the reason the Jupiter(s)  (There are more than one this time) are bound for beautiful unspoiled Alpha Centaur is because the Earth is dying and facing man made climate change, wars, famine, and other various and sundry society-ending problems.
All that "sustainability" is enough to wreck any planet.
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If you haven't already guessed the reason the Jupiter(s)  (There are more than one this time) are bound for beautiful unspoiled Alpha Centaur is because the Earth is dying and facing man made climate change, wars, famine, and other various and sundry society-ending problems.

Actually it was triggered by a comet, the Christmas meteor as the newscast in the background of the second episode described. That is what set off the chain of events. I don't recall them mentioning 'man made climate change' once.

Although, later in the series, they hint there may be more to the meteor than initial revealed when they discuss how it was odd it didn't keep raining down material as what would be expected.

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I don't have Netflix so I am afraid I will remain in the dark about these plot developments.
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Actually it was triggered by a comet, the Christmas meteor as the newscast in the background of the second episode described. That is what set off the chain of events. I don't recall them mentioning 'man made climate change' once.

Although, later in the series, they hint there may be more to the meteor than initial revealed when they discuss how it was odd it didn't keep raining down material as what would be expected.

You are probably correct there.  Climate change was accelerated due to the comet hit.. 
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I don't have Netflix so I am afraid I will remain in the dark about these plot developments.

So far my wife and I have not been very impressed by this series... Very predictable, not aimed at adults and lots of stupid...

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You are probably correct there.  Climate change was accelerated due to the comet hit..


Asteroid/Comet impacting a planet tend to do that.
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