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Offline Applewood

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AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« on: February 23, 2018, 10:50:01 pm »
So now we know what's important to the teachers unions.  It's not the kids.

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AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings

President Trump says teachers should be trained and given guns to protect schools against an active shooter. Some agree, but not the American Federation of Teachers.

One nation's largest teachers unions, the AFT strongly disagrees with the president, and its national President says arming teachers is a horrible idea.

Local AFT members also tell KRIS 6 News they do not think it is part of a teacher's job requirement to carry a gun in school, and they fear it could end up harming students.

"I can't imagine going to recess, bringing a gun with me," retired teacher Joan Salazar said.
 
Local members of the group came together to take a stand today against proposals to arm teachers.

"Why not put bullet proof vests on all children, where does it end? Our schools are not military fortresses," Corpus Christi AFT President Dr. Nancy Vera said.


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http://www.kristv.com/story/37571592/aft-against-arming-teachers-as-defense-against-mass-shootings

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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2018, 10:57:58 pm »
Teacher Unions suck the life out of the schools and should be treated with the utmost disrespect.
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2018, 12:08:24 am »
Quote from: Applewood on February 23, 2018, 10:50:01 pm
So now we know what's important to the teachers unions.  It's not the kids.

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http://www.kristv.com/story/37571592/aft-against-arming-teachers-as-defense-against-mass-shootings

It's also not the truth.  Nobody is suggesting teachers be "ordered" to carry, and I wouldn't want reluctant people carrying.  This is only for teachers who are capable of giving a crap about the safety of the students.
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2018, 12:36:28 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 24, 2018, 12:08:24 am
It's also not the truth.  Nobody is suggesting teachers be "ordered" to carry, and I wouldn't want reluctant people carrying.  This is only for teachers who are capable of giving a crap about the safety of the students.

I wonder how the teachers that just went though the wringer at Parkland would vote...
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2018, 01:05:06 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on February 24, 2018, 12:36:28 am
I wonder how the teachers that just went though the wringer at Parkland would vote...

I don't think they would be reluctant carriers, @roamer_1.  Patton had something to say about this in his famous monologue.  "Reach out to your friend and find a handful of goo where his face used to be...You'll know what to do."
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2018, 01:07:14 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 24, 2018, 01:05:06 am
I don't think they would be reluctant carriers, @roamer_1.  Patton had something to say about this in his famous monologue.  "Reach out to your friend and find a handful of goo where his face used to be...You'll know what to do."

That's right. A whole lot of folks just got disabused of the notion that the cops can save em.
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2018, 01:10:46 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on February 24, 2018, 01:07:14 am
That's right. A whole lot of folks just got disabused of the notion that the cops can save em.

Meanwhile the MSM is screaming the exact opposite.  Well, eff 'em.  I just scored a delicious AR-15 for my birfday.  A Springfield Saint Edge.  Can't wait to get it to the range.
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2018, 01:10:58 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 24, 2018, 01:05:06 am
I don't think they would be reluctant carriers, @roamer_1.  Patton had something to say about this in his famous monologue.  "Reach out to your friend and find a handful of goo where his face used to be...You'll know what to do."

War is a bloody, killing business. You’ve got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. Rip them up the belly. Shoot them in the guts. When shells are hitting all around you and you wipe the dirt off your face and realize that instead of dirt it’s the blood and guts of what once was your best friend beside you, you’ll know what to do!
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2018, 01:13:00 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 24, 2018, 01:10:46 am
Meanwhile the MSM is screaming the exact opposite.  Well, eff 'em.  I just scored a delicious AR-15 for my birfday.  A Springfield Saint Edge.  Can't wait to get it to the range.

Yeah that's right, and I don't blame you one little bit!

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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2018, 01:13:57 am »
Quote from: Wingnut on February 24, 2018, 01:10:58 am
War is a bloody, killing business. You’ve got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. Rip them up the belly. Shoot them in the guts. When shells are hitting all around you and you wipe the dirt off your face and realize that instead of dirt it’s the blood and guts of what once was your best friend beside you, you’ll know what to do!

I feel sorry for those poor bastards up against us. 
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2018, 01:17:31 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on February 24, 2018, 01:13:00 am
Yeah that's right, and I don't blame you one little bit!

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I just think of all those rifles you and I have grown up with, and then I beheld this beast.  It's just not like any other I've had. 
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2018, 01:20:19 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 24, 2018, 01:13:57 am
I feel sorry for those poor bastards up against us.

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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2018, 01:22:21 am »
Quote from: Wingnut on February 24, 2018, 01:20:19 am
You can’t run an army without profanity; and it has to be eloquent profanity. An army without profanity couldn’t fight its way out of a piss-soaked paper bag.

I'm not going to get you started, I promised.
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2018, 01:25:20 am »
There are 172 school districts in Texas that allow staff and/or board members to carry firearms on school premises, according to a statewide review of board policies by the Texas Association of School Boards.

http://www.caller.com/story/news/education/2018/02/22/texas-172-school-districts-allow-teachers-staff-armed/364677002/
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2018, 01:26:34 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 24, 2018, 01:22:21 am
I'm not going to get you started, I promised.

Fine.  You may be thankful that twenty years from now when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the great War against the leftist gun grabbers, you WON’T have to cough, shift him to the other knee and say, “Well, your Granddaddy shoveled shit in Arizona.” No, Sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say, “Son, your Granddaddy rode with the Son-of-a-Goddamned-Bitch named Wingnut!”
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2018, 01:28:41 am »
Quote from: Wingnut on February 24, 2018, 01:26:34 am
Fine.  You may be thankful that twenty years from now when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the great War against the leftist gun grabbers, you WON’T have to cough, shift him to the other knee and say, “Well, your Granddaddy shoveled shit in Arizona.” No, Sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say, “Son, your Granddaddy rode with the Son-of-a-Goddamned-Bitch named Wingnut!”

I already have that.  And my Grandson thinks I'm dead.
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2018, 01:30:39 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 24, 2018, 01:28:41 am
I already have that.  And my Grandson thinks I'm dead.

Oh......  My bad!    :cool:
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2018, 01:32:27 am »
Quote from: Wingnut on February 24, 2018, 01:30:39 am
Oh......  My bad!    :cool:

It's OK.  I'm not the one who killed me.   :shrug:
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2018, 07:19:28 am »
If teachers get guns, do librarians get silencers?
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2018, 12:03:11 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on February 23, 2018, 10:57:58 pm
Teacher Unions suck the life out of the schools and should be treated with the utmost disrespect.

There is no place for 'Worker' unions in public service (education)...period.

WTF??   They already get 2 months vacation each year, plus about another 2 weeks in school closings for just the FORECAST of slick roads.
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2018, 12:25:53 pm »
It'll be fine, as long as they're highly trained.  "I'm the only one professional enough....."


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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2018, 12:33:01 pm »
Good.

The last thing I want is these teachers unions with the power to rob me at gunpoint. They already rob enough people through property taxes and they still think they don't get enough.
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Re: AFT against arming teachers as defense against mass shootings
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2018, 01:46:13 pm »
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Well there it is!  Absolute proof that arming teachers is the RIGHT thing to do!
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