BREAKING>>Mueller indicts 13 Russians

[driftdiver]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/16/13-russian-nationals-indicted-for-interfering-in-us-elections.html

Further, the DOJ made clear that the indictment does not allege that any of the interference changed the outcome of the presidential race.

“There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity.

[the_doc]

Let Mueller close up shop.

Then appoint another SC to investigate the extent of the FBI's political collusion with the Clinton and Obama camps. Including Mueller.

Given what we already know, it would probably take only about 48 hours to indict all of the principals whom you mentioned.  (In fact, I'll bet someone in the Trump Administration has already put together the prosecutorial packages for upcoming grand jury proceedings.)   

[Hoodat]

1. No American knowingly participated

Sidney Blumenthal isn't an American?

[Sanguine]

Sidney Blumenthal isn't an American?

Exactly. 

[skeeter]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/16/13-russian-nationals-indicted-for-interfering-in-us-elections.html

Further, the DOJ made clear that the indictment does not allege that any of the interference changed the outcome of the presidential race.

“There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity.

None of that is clear in CNN's reportage:

(CNN)Special counsel Robert Mueller has indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities for allegedly meddling in the 2016 presidential election, charging them with conspiracy to defraud the United States, the Department of Justice announced Friday.

[Concerned]

None of that is clear in CNN's reportage:

(CNN)Special counsel Robert Mueller has indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities for allegedly meddling in the 2016 presidential election, charging them with conspiracy to defraud the United States, the Department of Justice announced Friday.

Rosenstein said Friday that the indictment does not contain any allegations that any Americans knowingly participated in the activity.
"There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity," he said. "There is no allegation in the indictment that the charge conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/politics/mueller-russia-indictments-election-interference/index.html

[skeeter]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/politics/mueller-russia-indictments-election-interference/index.html

Right, twelve or fourteen paragraphs down.

Since the entire investigation as reported these past 16 months was 'was Trump colluding with the Russians' wouldn't it make sense to include that bit of info up towards the top, if not in the headline?

[driftdiver]

Fox news says this proves there was Russian interference.    Seems scripted

[Concerned]

Right, twelve or fourteen paragraphs down.

Since the entire investigation as reported these past 16 months was 'was Trump colluding with the Russians' wouldn't it make sense to include that bit of info up towards the top, if not in the headline?

If you want to argue it should have been located in a different portion of the story, you're obviously entitled to your opinion on that subject, but you claimed it was not "clear in CNN's reportage".  That was obviously false.  It was quite clear including providing Rosenstein's quote on the subject:  quite clear. 

[DB]

The irony is Obama strongly interfered with the Israeli elections among others...

Yet that is just fine...

The goals always justify the means with lefties. The pursuit of Utopia eventually ends up with people in ovens for the "greater good"...

[skeeter]

If you want to argue it should have been located in a different portion of the story, you're obviously entitled to your opinion on that subject, but you claimed it was not "clear in CNN's reportage".  That was obviously false.  It was quite clear including providing Rosenstein's quote on the subject:  quite clear.

Where the editor locates highly relevant facts has bearing on how clear a report is. IMO.

Of course you can disagree but that doesn't make it 'false'.

[Concerned]

Where the editor locates highly relevant facts has bearing on how clear a report is. IMO.

Of course you can disagree but that doesn't make it 'false'.

I do disagree because the "reportage" (as you put it) was indeed quite clear.........assuming, of course, the reader has the attention span to read the entire "reportage".  There's no shame in simply admitting you made a mistake.  Have a good night.   

[skeeter]

I do disagree because the "reportage" (as you put it) was indeed quite clear.........assuming, of course, the reader has the attention span to read the entire "reportage".  There's no shame in simply admitting you made a mistake.  Have a good night.   

Buzz off.

[edpc]

Dowd added that he believed Trump was pleased with the developments in Mueller's investigation, which has also launched indictments against four people connected to the president's campaign in previous months.

“I’m sure [Trump] is happy,” Dowd said. “We’ve had a lot of faith in Bob Mueller and his team and it makes you feel good when they do a good job. They got these bastards who tried to hurt the country.”

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/374327-trumps-personal-lawyer-mueller-did-a-hell-of-a-job-with-indictments


Right.  I’m sure they’re ready to have tea and a chat with Mueller now.

 

[GrouchoTex]

Moose and Squirrel

[Sanguine]

Moose and Squirrel

Which is which?

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,304879.new.html#new

[the_doc]

@The Ghost
@Bigun
@INVAR

It could turn out to be like when an innocent man (Trump) gets convicted by the false testimony of a jailhouse snitch (a Russian meddler, in this case) who is led to believe he will get favorable treatment for helping to convict the prosecutor's bigger target (Trump).

These witch hunts by corrupt prosecutors sometimes turn out to be frame jobs, I think.

I'm pleased to be able to say I was wrong.  When I wrote this post, I didn't realize that none of the Russkies who were indicted could ever be brought to trial.  I assumed they were residing in the U.S.  Indicting the non-resident "conspirators" gives Mueller no leverage against them to get them to frame Trump.  (The possibility that prosecutorial crooks would wind up framing Trump is what I have been concerned about since Day One of the witch hunt.  No one should ever trust a hostile lawyer.)

[INVAR]

I'm pleased to be able to say I was wrong.  When I wrote this post, I didn't realize that none of the Russkies who were indicted could ever be brought to trial.  I assumed they were residing in the U.S.  Indicting the non-resident "conspirators" gives Mueller no leverage against them to get them to frame Trump.  (The possibility that prosecutorial crooks would wind up framing Trump is what I have been concerned about since Day One of the witch hunt.  No one should ever trust a hostile lawyer.)

It gives him the 'aura' of "evidence" that his fruitless "investigation" has merit so he can continue the witch-hunt until he has something that can be used to blackmail, coerce or impeach Trump.

The 'Deep-State Oligarchy in D.C. does not just consist of rabid Marxist Democrats you know.