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Yeah, me too.

I'm having a hard time reconciling what the USAF has done to him.  Even the Flight Doc and Med Grp Commander at Edwards seemed perplexed when we reached out to them for advice/suggestions. 

Oh well, their loss.  I will not be kind when I read how the USAF continues to have retention problems, problems finding skilled people to fill technical jobs, etc. 

They're their own worst enemy.

You ever ready the John Q. Public blog?

He does a great job of highlighting the circular firing squad that is todays USAF.
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You ever ready the John Q. Public blog?

He does a great job of highlighting the circular firing squad that is todays USAF.
I do...he does a great job.
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Would you kindly provide some support about either of those situations. for those claims, because I don't recall ever hearing either of those policy changes.

I will say this however: If the USA had volunteer military recruiting difficulties during the first years following 9/11/2001 we have a more serious problem, than most will care to ponder.

During WWII ten percent of the 160 million population served in uniform. People volunteered, and people were drafted.

Sorry, @truth_seeker...I didn't see your post until now.

Here's support for the felony waivers:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/21/military.waivers/
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The Army and Marine Corps are allowing convicted felons to serve in increasing numbers, newly released Department of Defense statistics show.

Recruits were allowed to enlist after having been convicted of crimes including assault, burglary, drug possession and making terrorist threats.

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The Army defended its use of waivers as a response to a changing American society, arguing that only three in 10 Americans of military age "meet all our stringent medical, moral, aptitude or administrative requirements."

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And for the huge bounties:
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2009/01/16/obama-to-confront-limits-of-americas-overstretched-military

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Recruiting, too, has been a considerable challenge for the all-volunteer military engaged in two tough wars. When the Army fell short of its recruiting goals in 2005, it raised the maximum recruiting age to 42 years old, and added sign-up bonuses as high as $40,000. It also began enlisting more recruits with general equivalency degrees rather than high school diplomas. Just over 70 percent of new recruits had high school diplomas in 2007, for example, a 25-year low. Moral waivers for new recruits with criminal histories are also on the rise, nearly doubling from 860 waivers for marines and soldiers convicted of felonies in 2007, up by 400 from 2006. The Pentagon argues that these are modest figures relative to the size of the force, and that 97 percent of Marine Corps recruits in 2008 had high school diplomas.

Yes, I know, I know there was crowing on TOS that they met recruitment goals...but only by paying out bonuses and weakening requirements.

As for Obama reversing these moral waivers, I don't see it anywhere in that timeframe on a Google search.  I apologize, as I was absolutely sure of it -- it had seemed so bizarre that it happened as one of his first things, it stuck with me!  But now, perhaps it was a from a dream (or, since it's Obama, that would have been a nightmare!).  I apologize for making what seems to be a false claim.  It was wholly unintentional.  Thank you for asking for support!
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Thanks for the follow up.
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I do...he does a great job.

If I've read his subtle hints correctly he was a C-17 driver out of Charleston before he retired and started blogging.
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Just do what George W. Bush did to keep recruitment numbers up during Iraq/Afghanistan: allow violent felons and hand out bundles of cash!

I still find it odd that re-instituting the violent-felon restrictions was one of the very first things Obama did upon coming into office.
BULLSHIT!  "Violent felons" were never part of the equation.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2007/11/i_want_you_badly.html
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Sorry, @truth_seeker...I didn't see your post until now.

Here's support for the felony waivers:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/21/military.waivers/
And for the huge bounties:
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2009/01/16/obama-to-confront-limits-of-americas-overstretched-military

Yes, I know, I know there was crowing on TOS that they met recruitment goals...but only by paying out bonuses and weakening requirements.

As for Obama reversing these moral waivers, I don't see it anywhere in that timeframe on a Google search.  I apologize, as I was absolutely sure of it -- it had seemed so bizarre that it happened as one of his first things, it stuck with me!  But now, perhaps it was a from a dream (or, since it's Obama, that would have been a nightmare!).  I apologize for making what seems to be a false claim.  It was wholly unintentional.  Thank you for asking for support!
"Convicted felons" are worlds apart from "violent felons".  Misrepresenting as usual, no surprise there.  Your "tune" changes as you see fit.
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I heard an appropriate term for much of the trouble we are seeing, with younger people.

"Infantization." Remaining young, too long. Never growing up. Adults with childlike minds.

BTW one observer said this mass murderer Cruz, had the mind of a 13-14 year old. 
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"Convicted felons" are worlds apart from "violent felons".  Misrepresenting as usual, no surprise there.  Your "tune" changes as you see fit.

Read the stories. They are violent felonies.  For example, in 2007, they included manslaughter; sexual crimes, including rape, incest or sexual assault; negligent or vehicular homicide; and terroristic threats. (https://www.deseretnews.com/article/695272486/More-convicted-felons-allowed-to-enlist-in-Army-Marines.html)
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Read the stories. They are violent felonies.  For example, in 2007, they included manslaughter; sexual crimes, including rape, incest or sexual assault; negligent or vehicular homicide; and terroristic threats. (https://www.deseretnews.com/article/695272486/More-convicted-felons-allowed-to-enlist-in-Army-Marines.html)
This source was NOT included in your original assertion...15 "violent" out of how many total?  Get to work spin meister...sheesh, I hear the NY Times is hiring.
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Read the stories. They are violent felonies.  For example, in 2007, they included manslaughter; sexual crimes, including rape, incest or sexual assault; negligent or vehicular homicide; and terroristic threats. (https://www.deseretnews.com/article/695272486/More-convicted-felons-allowed-to-enlist-in-Army-Marines.html)

Well, we used to recruit violent felons...