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Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« on: February 15, 2018, 08:18:10 pm »
Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
By Jordain Carney - 02/15/18 03:03 PM EST

The Senate has blocked an immigration measure sponsored by Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Christopher Coons (D-Del.) that did not include money for President Trump’s border wall.

The amendment fell in a 52-47 vote. It needed 60 votes to overcome a procedural hurdle set up for four different immigration measures the Senate will vote on Thursday.

Each of the four proposals appear to be short of the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster.

The McCain–Coons bill would provide a path to citizenship for more than 1.8 million immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children. It would also require the Department of Homeland Security to secure the border by 2021.

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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2018, 09:16:46 pm »
Republican Sens. Jeff Flake (Ariz.), Lindsey Graham(S.C.), Cory Gardner (Colo.) and Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) supported it.

We are never going to get anything done with RINOS voting for the Rats. Pres. Trump's "four pillars" are more than reasonable.
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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2018, 09:18:01 pm »
Securing the border should be the first not the last thing done.
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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2018, 09:22:03 pm »



McCain-Coons border fence.
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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2018, 09:23:43 pm »
Securing the border should be the first not the last thing done.

I agree, but the only way to get the wall and border security is to trade off something.
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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2018, 10:09:58 pm »
I agree, but the only way to get the wall and border security is to trade off something.

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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2018, 10:30:28 pm »

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Amendment based on Pres Trump's immig framework FAILS in the Senate (each need 60):
1- (FAILS 52-47) McCain-Coons (Just #DACA + Border)
2- (FAILS 54-45) Toomey (penalized sanctuary cities)
3- (FAILS 54-45) Rounds-King (bipartisan bill)
4-(FAILS 39-60) Grassley (Trump's framework)


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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2018, 10:38:42 pm »
    Yea, I know it's VOX, but here is a brief summary of all 4 bills rejected by the Senate today.


The Senate put 4 immigration bills up for a vote. They all failed.

Lawmakers couldn’t find a path forward to fix DACA.

By Dylan Scott@dylanlscottdylan.scott@vox.com    Feb 15, 2018, 4:07pm EST   

The dream looks dead.

The Senate failed Thursday afternoon to advance any of the four immigration bills that were put on the floor for a vote, unable to make any movement toward protecting young people brought illegally to the United States as children.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell allowed debate on several possible fixes for those covered by the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which includes about 700,000 people who face uncertainty about their deportation protections. President Trump has said he would rescind those protections in early March, putting the onus on Congress to come up with a permanent solution. Each and every one of those possible fixes came up short in a series of Thursday afternoon votes.

It leaves the Senate, after a government shutdown and month of negotiations, with no clear path forward on immigration, nearly six months after Trump said he would end the DACA program without congressional action.

Trump played his part in Thursday’s showdown: At midday on Thursday, the White House issued a veto threat against the bipartisan bill that seemed to have the best shot of winning the 60 votes needed — meaning even if the Senate had gotten enough support for the plan, Trump seemed unlikely to sign it.

Four immigration bills were put on the Senate floor, and four bills failed

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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/15/17017682/senate-immigration-daca-bill-vote-failed
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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2018, 10:41:20 pm »
   Cruz, Lee, Sasse and Paul voted against all but the penalize sanctuary city bill.
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2018, 10:44:28 pm »
What's really frustrating is 14 Pubs voted against Pres. Trump's plan. The Senate seemed eager to give amnesty/citizenship to 3-4 million people and maybe build the wall, but chain migration and the lottery would remain.

The Pubs just don't know how to win.
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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2018, 10:54:33 pm »
What's really frustrating is 14 Pubs voted against Pres. Trump's plan. The Senate seemed eager to give amnesty/citizenship to 3-4 million people and maybe build the wall, but chain migration and the lottery would remain.

The Pubs just don't know how to win.

   It really is Sad @bilo that the only thing those azzholes can agree on is Trillion dollar budgets.
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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2018, 10:55:44 pm »


The Pubs just don't know how to win.

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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2018, 11:19:34 pm »
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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2018, 12:02:21 am »
Never sell your soul to the devil.

Now you tell me.

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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2018, 12:14:19 am »
Now you tell me.

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I believe you told me that before the election....


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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2018, 02:45:44 am »
888high58888

I believe you told me that before the election....


How soon we forget!

What makes me so mad was I was not for Pres. Trump and now I see he's the only one in the room who is actually trying to do what he said.

I don't fault this failure on him. It's 2 things; one the Rats never wanted a real deal and two the Pub establishment doesn't want a deal.
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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2018, 02:50:05 am »
What makes me so mad was I was not for Pres. Trump and now I see he's the only one in the room who is actually trying to do what he said.

I don't fault this failure on him. It's 2 things; one the Rats never wanted a real deal and two the Pub establishment doesn't want a deal.

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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2018, 03:10:37 am »
Now you tell me.

Heh, now that was funny!  888high58888
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2018, 03:12:20 am »
What makes me so mad was I was not for Pres. Trump and now I see he's the only one in the room who is actually trying to do what he said.

I don't fault this failure on him. It's 2 things; one the Rats never wanted a real deal and two the Pub establishment doesn't want a deal.

Sounds like a win win to me.  Let this bet ride.
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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2018, 03:16:30 am »
Sounds like a win win to me.  Let this bet ride.

It's only a win in the short run.

In the long run the demographics kill the republic. California is what happens as the natural born children of illegals begin to vote.
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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2018, 03:24:36 am »
I agree, but the only way to get the wall and border security is to trade off something.

What would be way more effective than the wall would be to not give amnesty to anybody and start the deportation process.  If they know the game is up they won't come any longer.
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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2018, 03:25:16 am »



McCain-Coons border fence.
yeah, but I wouldn't mind that one getting through.

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« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2018, 03:28:47 am »
It's only a win in the short run.

In the long run the demographics kill the republic. California is what happens as the natural born children of illegals begin to vote.

The short run is what we are talkin' 'Bout, or at least I am.

If President Trump would sign anything that comes out of the Senate, all your demographic fears will come true.  Better to let this bet ride till 2018. Hopefully we pick up 5-8 seats.. at the least.

Then, maybe we get a bill designed for Americans.
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« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2018, 03:29:13 am »
yeah, but I wouldn't mind that one getting through.


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Re: Senate rejects bipartisan measure as immigration votes begin
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2018, 03:29:20 am »



McCain-Coons border fence.

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