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Elon Musk’s Tesla overshot Mars’ orbit and is headed to the asteroid belt
By Loren Grush. @lorengrush  Feb 6, 2018, 11:45pm EST
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/6/16983744/spacex-tesla-falcon-heavy-roadster-orbit-asteroid-belt-elon-musk-mars

Elon Musk’s Tesla roadster, which launched on top of SpaceX’s Falcon Heavy earlier today, is going farther out into the Solar System than originally planned. The car was supposed to be put on a path around the Sun that would take the vehicle out to the distance of Mars’ orbit. But the rocket carrying the car seems to have overshot that trajectory and has put the Tesla in an orbit that extends out into the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.

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Looks like a rocky road ahead.........

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I was surprised to find out that there are no thrusters on this payload. Can't figure out why SpaceX ever thought that they would never have to do any course corrections?

Because it is a dumb payload that no one really gives a shit about?
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Because it is a dumb payload that no one really gives a shit about?


Not about the 'dumb payload'. It is about success.
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Not about the 'dumb payload'. It is about success.

And Failure.
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FYI:

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Tesla Motors Inc., SolarCity Corp. and Space Exploration Technologies Corp., known as SpaceX, together have benefited from an estimated $4.9 billion in government support, according to data compiled by The Times. The figure underscores a common theme running through his emerging empire: a public-private financing model underpinning long-shot start-ups.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html
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That's a pretty big oops...

First time launch and the rocket over performed. No big deal, it was a test launch with a nothing
payload.

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FYI:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html

One thing is a given.  We will put a man on Mars long before any of the patron Saint of grifters companies are in the black.
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Not about the 'dumb payload'. It is about success.

Oh, I'm all for what Musk and Bezos are doing, but I doubt that - on this particular mission - they were overly interested in adding millions of dollars of backup systems to make a stupid car go where they wanted.

The real test was whether they could land the launch components safely. I was stoked when I saw those Falcons touch down, but it is disappointing that the bigger, more expensive component hit the ocean going 300 mph.
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First time launch and the rocket over performed. No big deal, it was a test launch with a nothing
payload.

That is one way to spin it.
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One thing is a given.  We will put a man on Mars long before any of the patron Saint of grifters companies are in the black.

I have no doubt about that.
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First time launch and the rocket over performed. No big deal, it was a test launch with a nothing
payload.

That's an important point. This is all just a test. It is a part of the learning curve.

Also, since we now know how to reach the asteroid belt, the next payload could be some kind of mining apparatus to mine the asteroid belt.

Scientists have projected that it will look something like this:

Image result for asteroids video game gif
 
« Last Edit: February 07, 2018, 02:24:00 pm by 240B »
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Merged two threads on Musk's rocket and moved to Space category

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That explains why their stock is not publically traded, which is something I was wondering about. If they are a private company, then why wouldn't use shares to raise money?


But now I learn that it is all a lie. They are not a 'private company' as they claim. They are a private company which is funded by the government. Which necessarily means that they are NOT entirely a private company.


SpaceX is simply an extension of the government into a pseudo-private domain. Without government subsidies, SpaceX would not exist. No doubt there are GS-15 level supervisors running the show.


Didn't know any of this. I believed the lie. I thought SpaceX was privately funded. It is not.
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Musk makes PT Barnum look like a piker.
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Whatever you think of SpaceX they are doing the country a great service and developing mind
boggling capabilities. With Tesla the jury is still out, let see if they can solve the battery problem.

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That's an important point. This is all just a test. It is a part of the learning curve.

Also, since we now know how to reach the asteroid belt, the next payload could be some kind of mining apparatus to mine the asteroid belt.


Wouldn’t that necessitate renaming rare earth elements to common space stuff?
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Hmph. So we now have a random car, with a fake dude in it, out into space towards the asteroid belt.

That is sentence I never thought I'd type in my lifetime.

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The part of me that used to enjoy reading Science Fiction can foresee a time in the future, after asteroid mining has become commonplace, when some Belter will stumble across Elon's Lost Tesla, and become a brief media sensation...
Let it burn.

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The joke will be on us when that car mysteriously disappears, comes back hundreds of years later as V'ger, and insists on talking to Elon.
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The joke will be on us when that car mysteriously disappears, comes back hundreds of years later as V'ger, and insists on talking to Elon.

A sentient, massive entity which threatens Earth in 2271, en route to find its Creator Saint Elon.... Sounds like a nice movie plot for a sequile.
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To a certain extent, Musk's space efforts are a competitor with Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and other defense-aerospace contractors.

Those forms, using government accounting rules, have socked it to taxpayers for decades and for billions if not trillions of $$.

Many American families have worked all or most of their careers, riding government contracts for "defense" and "national security," knowing full well the extent of corruption, inefficiency, etc.
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A sentient, massive entity which threatens Earth in 2271, en route to find its Creator Saint Elon.... Sounds like a nice movie plot for a sequile.

All while singing "Space Oddity" by David Bowie.
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A sentient, massive entity which threatens Earth in 2271, en route to find its Creator Saint Elon.... Sounds like a nice movie plot for a sequile.


It'll have a subplot concerning a #metoo campaign against Captain Decker.
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The car, if that is what you mean, is on its way to Mars as we speak. It will orbit Mars for infinity. There are no plans to land it on the surface or to attempt to recover it.

Some time hundreds of years in the future, some insurance company is going to have to pay on a spaceship hit-and-run with that thing!!