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At least he’s not pulling this Clintonesque stunt from 1994:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/06/25/from-white-house-officers-to-aides-de-canapes/a0c630a5-2126-4ee0-b141-151625b6f4dc/?utm_term=.039d5e170998
I'd almost forgotten about that one.

But I won't be shocked if it should happen again in the future.


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I'd almost forgotten about that one.

But I won't be shocked if it should happen again in the future.


I was fixing Army radios back then.  Everyone was pissed.  I’m glad my time with him as CiC was brief.
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It isn't just the WP: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/06/trump-orders-military-celebration-in-washington-dc.html

Who thinks this is a good idea? I don't get it.

An annual tradition of patriotism and a celebration of our Military on the Fourth?  If it was any other POTUS than Trump, I think it might be better received, but the media and the D’s are going to turn it into a boondoggle of bitching.

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I'd almost forgotten about that one.

But I won't be shocked if it should happen again in the future.

I had forgotten about it.  Remember Hillary making the SS carry her luggage?  To those two federal employees were all their personal servants.

You can say what you want about Trump.  He does seem to genuinely appreciate our Military.  The Clintons hated them.

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An annual tradition of patriotism and a celebration of our Military on the Fourth?  If it was any other POTUS than Trump, I think it might be better received, but the media and the D’s are going to turn it into a boondoggle of bitching.

One of the worst ideas of the year. The only thing I disliked more than a parade was a visit to the base by a Congress critter. The extra work that went into these two activities usually blew up my training schedule for a week, sometimes more.

Our service members have better things to do. As others have noted, there are scheduled events throughout the year. Let's keep it that way, and not add on needless commitments.
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So how much is this going to cost us taxpayers? 

If Trump wants to honor the military, why doesn't he do something beneficial to the military?

He could start by honoring those who have served -- by getting those lazy lumps in congress to fix the VA.

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You can say what you want about Trump.  He does seem to genuinely appreciate our Military.  The Clintons hated them.

Agreed.

I also don't think he's stupid enough to be pushing for this.

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One of the worst ideas of the year. The only thing I disliked more than a parade was a visit to the base by a Congress critter. The extra work that went into these two activities usually blew up my training schedule for a week, sometimes more.

Our service members have better things to do. As others have noted, there are scheduled events throughout the year. Let's keep it that way, and not add on needless commitments.

I know.  The ranks had rather spend the Fourth with their families celebrating than marching in the hot sun.  I don’t think this is a good idea either. 

I don’t know if they still do it because of terrorism fears, but they used to have free concerts with a big name come to the bases and fireworks for the the Military and their families.  Often the big names would sign autographs for as long as it took to sign everybody’s.  I don’t think this parade idea will be a morale booster, but I could be completely wrong as we haven’t heard what Trump has in mind other than the parade.

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I hope they don't do this.  It's a stupid idea
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So how much is this going to cost us taxpayers? 

If Trump wants to honor the military, why doesn't he do something beneficial to the military?


He could start by honoring those who have served -- by getting those lazy lumps in congress to fix the VA.

^^^^THIS

The government's going to have to borrow almost $1T this year due to reduced tax revenues from the tax cuts.  I just don't see how a Soviet-style, North Korean-style, French-style military parade benefits anything other than President's ego.  It's extra work and expense for the military and local law enforcement.  If he insists on spending money on something, I'd much prefer he took the budget for this and do something like just hand it to military families as a surprise bonus.
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^^^^THIS

The government's going to have to borrow almost $1T this year due to reduced tax revenues from the tax cuts.  I just don't see how a Soviet-style, North Korean-style, French-style military parade benefits anything other than President's ego.  It's extra work and expense for the military and local law enforcement.  If he insists on spending money on something, I'd much prefer he took the budget for this and do something like just hand it to military families as a surprise bonus.

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The govt may have to borrow but it's not because of the tax cuts.   It's because of the spending
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The govt may have to borrow but it's not because of the tax cuts.   It's because of the spending

That might be your opinion but not everyone agrees.  From another thread:

Due primarily to "fiscal outlook" according to the Treasury Department and specifically that "tax receipts are going to be lower because of the new tax law" according to the CBO.  From the link in the OP:

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Treasury mainly attributed the increase to the "fiscal outlook." The Congressional Budget Office was more blunt. In a report this week, the CBO said tax receipts are going to be lower because of the new tax law.


Whether it's spending or tax receipts, we've now got a supposedly "conservative" administration borrowing almost $1T this year and advocating additional spending on infrastructure, a big increase in defense spending, and now a silly military parade.  "Conservative"?  Certainly not "fiscally" at least that I can see.
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That might be your opinion but not everyone agrees.  From another thread:



Whether it's spending or tax receipts, we've now got a supposedly "conservative" administration borrowing almost $1T this year and advocating additional spending on infrastructure, a big increase in defense spending, and now a silly military parade.  "Conservative"?  Certainly not "fiscally" at least that I can see.

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It's not a matter of opinion.   If you spend more then you make then you either go broke or borrow.

Our govt spends too much money.

Blaming a cut in taxes is dishonest.   Tax cuts always increase revenues because people spend the money.  Corporations are bringing billions back to the US.  That money will create jobs and buy stuff.   Generating more taxes.

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It's not a matter of opinion.   If you spend more then you make then you either go broke or borrow.

Our govt spends too much money.

Blaming a cut in taxes is dishonest.   Tax cuts always increase revenues because people spend the money.  Corporations are bringing billions back to the US.  That money will create jobs and buy stuff.   Generating more taxes.

But the level of increased revenues is not a certainty and in fact, the level is in some doubt.  That's why it's an opinion.  Your opinion is that the increased revenues will more than make up for the reduced revenues from the tax cut.  The Congressional Budget Office obviously thinks otherwise.  My money's on them.  We'll never agree on this subject.

You and I are in complete agreement that our government spends too much money.  I wish we had a fiscal conservative in the White House but apparently we just have another borrow and spender in there.
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That might be your opinion but not everyone agrees.

Treasury mainly attributed the increase to the "fiscal outlook." The Congressional Budget Office was more blunt. In a report this week, the CBO said tax receipts are going to be lower because of the new tax law.


Well, the CBO also made it sound like Obamacare would be a good thing because more people would necessarily have coverage due to the mandate.  We know how that went.

Many people are moving into better paying jobs as economic conditions improve.  More people working at better pay and spending the money would actually increase receipts.  We've seen it happen before.  Spending was always the issue.
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That might be your opinion but not everyone agrees.  From another thread:



Whether it's spending or tax receipts, we've now got a supposedly "conservative" administration borrowing almost $1T this year and advocating additional spending on infrastructure, a big increase in defense spending, and now a silly military parade.  "Conservative"?  Certainly not "fiscally" at least that I can see.

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Infrastructure and defense are the two things our govt should be spending.  Why no concern for entitlements
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Lets have a parade...I want to ride in a tank!



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Infrastructure and defense are the two things our govt should be spending.  Why no concern for entitlements

I think we absolutely HAVE to tackle entitlements. I have said that here on TBR.  Unfortunately our President has proclaimed he'll never touch entitlements.   We'll never truly tackle the debt without touching entitlements IMO.   I've condemned the President for his over-spending.  I've condemned the President for his stance on entitlements.  I've condemned the President for proposing a budget that requires us to borrow almost $1T.  I don't think we need the tax cuts right now.  We have a pretty darn hot economy. 

My question is why aren't the Freedom Caucus and other fiscal conservatives screaming as loudly now as they did when Obama spent money we didn't have.  I sure am, but where's everyone else?

If we're truly concerned about government spending, let's start with cutting stupid things like a military parade down PA avenue.  I'm sure you agree.
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I would put money on this either being fake or never seeing the light of day.

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I would put money on this either being fake or never seeing the light of day.

Same here.

But if true.....no
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Third world dictators and Communist regimes do stupid stuff like what he's proposing.

This is just assinine and something tonstrokenhis already oversized ego.
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In the air force I was in an air combat squadron located on an army post.   The army was always marching by our compound.     Our commander and the army commander didn't get along.

So she decided to have our unit do some marching.  Bunch of air force guys who hadn't marched since basic.   I was fortunately watching the secure vault and couldn't participate.

Needless to say we didn't do that again.
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Third world dictators and Communist regimes do stupid stuff like what he's proposing.

This is just assinine and something tonstrokenhis already oversized ego.

France does it.  That's where he got the idea
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I think we absolutely HAVE to tackle entitlements. I have said that here on TBR.  Unfortunately our President has proclaimed he'll never touch entitlements.   We'll never truly tackle the debt without touching entitlements IMO.   I've condemned the President for his over-spending.  I've condemned the President for his stance on entitlements.  I've condemned the President for proposing a budget that requires us to borrow almost $1T.  I don't think we need the tax cuts right now.  We have a pretty darn hot economy. 

My question is why aren't the Freedom Caucus and other fiscal conservatives screaming as loudly now as they did when Obama spent money we didn't have.  I sure am, but where's everyone else?

If we're truly concerned about government spending, let's start with cutting stupid things like a military parade down PA avenue.  I'm sure you agree.


^^^^This

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