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Devin Nunes just told Fox & Friends that Trump never met George Papadopoulos. Here's a picture of th
« on: February 05, 2018, 06:51:21 pm »
Devin Nunes just told Fox & Friends that Trump never met George Papadopoulos. Here's a picture of them together.
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Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) appeared on Fox & Friends on Monday to talk about the FBI's investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Specifically, he made some questionable claims downplaying the importance of President Trump's former foreign policy adviser, George Papadopolous, who has proved surprisingly essential to a swirl of controversy in Washington.

Papadopolous triggered the FBI's probe of the Trump campaign and Russia, thanks to a drunken conversation with an Australian diplomat in which he touted Russia's hacking efforts against Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election. He has also been indicted for lying to the FBI — but Nunes claimed that none of that really matters, because Papadopolous played such a minor role in the Trump campaign. In fact, "as far as we can tell, Papadopoulos … never even had met with the president," Nunes told host Brian Kilmeade.

That claim is untrue. Papadopoulos not only provoked the FBI probe, but he also edited foreign policy speeches for Trump and arranged meetings on the then-candidate's behalf with foreign leaders. Oh, and he is clearly visible in this campaign photo with Trump, Vox's Matthew Yglesias points out:

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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2018, 07:11:58 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2018, 07:59:07 pm »
Nunes said that 'as far as he knew' Trump didn't know Papadopoulos.

Now someone has dug up a very dark and grainy picture but even if it does show the two men together, that means very little.

It's Washington, DC.  Sooner or later, everybody meets everybody.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2018, 08:11:41 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on February 05, 2018, 07:59:07 pm
Nunes said that 'as far as he knew' Trump didn't know Papadopoulos.

Now someone has dug up a very dark and grainy picture but even if it does show the two men together, that means very little.

It's Washington, DC.  Sooner or later, everybody meets everybody.

I 'met' Richard Nixon.

But Kissinger would deny he knew me.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2018, 08:13:07 pm »
“Look, getting drunk in London and talking to diplomats, saying that you don’t like Hillary Clinton — I think it’s kind of scary that our intelligence agencies would take that and use it against an American citizen,” Nunes said.


No, what Papadopoulos told Downer was the Russian had dirt on Hillary in the form of damaging emails.  That information had been conveyed to Papadopoulos by Russian intermediary Joseph Misfud in April 2016.

Regardless, you have a member of your campaign’s foreign policy advisory team drinking and running his mouth in a public setting.  How lovely.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2018, 08:15:27 pm »
Nunes, just of Rush, said this was a photo op. It does not mean Papa "knows" Trump

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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2018, 08:16:05 pm »
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Devin Nunes just told Fox & Friends that Trump never met George Papadopoulos. Here's a picture of them together.

That's really beautiful and all.  But what does that have to do with Justice Department officials conspiring with a political campaign by using manufactured documents to secure FISA warrants so that they could wiretap the opposing campaign?
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2018, 08:20:06 pm »
Quote from: edpc on February 05, 2018, 08:13:07 pm
“Look, getting drunk in London and talking to diplomats, saying that you don’t like Hillary Clinton — I think it’s kind of scary that our intelligence agencies would take that and use it against an American citizen,” Nunes said.


No, what Papadopoulos told Downer was the Russian had dirt on Hillary in the form of damaging emails.  That information had been conveyed to Papadopoulos by Russian intermediary Joseph Misfud in April 2016.

Regardless, you have a member of your campaign’s foreign policy advisory team drinking and running his mouth in a public setting.  How lovely.

I understand why something like that might briefly pique the interest of the FBI, given Yannapaparopolous was a marginal campaign figure.

On the other hand given what everyone knew at the time about Clinton's personal handling of sensitive data drunkenly supposing that the Russians had dirt on Clinton wouldn't really be going too far out on a limb.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2018, 08:41:01 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on February 05, 2018, 08:20:06 pm
I understand why something like that might briefly pique the interest of the FBI, given Yannapaparopolous was a marginal campaign figure.

On the other hand given what everyone knew at the time about Clinton's personal handling of sensitive data drunkenly supposing that the Russians had dirt on Clinton wouldn't really be going too far out on a limb.


My point was Nunes grossly mischaractarized the conversation.  Papadopoulos wasn’t just some Foster Brooks kind of guy saying he didn’t like Hillary.  I was also not impressed with something Nunes attempted to slip by in the Baier interview last week.  At the 7:00 mark, he tried to say Swalwell was lying about the political origin of the dossier being made known to the FISA judge.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R9h1Lw-uQpM

He then goes on to describe the scenario in court, call it incredible, then say he doesn’t believe it happened at all.  Not believing it is a far cry from definitely knowing it did not occur.  It’s extremely unhelpful for him to get elastic with the facts.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2018, 08:49:05 pm »
Quote from: edpc on February 05, 2018, 08:41:01 pm

My point was Nunes grossly mischaractarized the conversation.  Papadopoulos wasn’t just some Foster Brooks kind of guy saying he didn’t like Hillary.  I was also not impressed with something Nunes attempted to slip by in the Baier interview last week.  At the 7:00 mark, he tried to say Swalwell was lying about the political origin of the dossier being made known to the FISA judge.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R9h1Lw-uQpM

He then goes on to describe the scenario in court, call it incredible, then say he doesn’t believe it happened at all.  Not believing it is a far cry from definitely knowing it did not occur.  It’s extremely unhelpful for him to get elastic with the facts.

Well, generally speaking we both know what likely went on here.

How certain individuals might be handling themselves in the public eye really is of little concern. To me, anyway. Whats important is the public be made aware of how corrupt parts of their government have become. Its important the guilty  - regardless of who they may be - be held accountable.

The truth will come out. The question is will it come out before Trump's term is up, which the democrats and media are desperate to prevent.
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2018, 08:50:14 pm »
Quote from: edpc on February 05, 2018, 08:41:01 pm

My point was Nunes grossly mischaractarized the conversation.  Papadopoulos wasn’t just some Foster Brooks kind of guy saying he didn’t like Hillary.  I was also not impressed with something Nunes attempted to slip by in the Baier interview last week.  At the 7:00 mark, he tried to say Swalwell was lying about the political origin of the dossier being made known to the FISA judge.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R9h1Lw-uQpM

He then goes on to describe the scenario in court, call it incredible, then say he doesn’t believe it happened at all.  Not believing it is a far cry from definitely knowing it did not occur.  It’s extremely unhelpful for him to get elastic with the facts.

There isn't a single thing Republicans do about this FISA/Mueller business that you like, is there?
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2018, 08:59:15 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 05, 2018, 08:50:14 pm
There isn't a single thing Republicans do about this FISA/Mueller business that you like, is there?


If Nunes is going to go out there and say things that are questionable or demonstrably false, how does this not help opponents when they say this information is incomplete and distorted?  So, no, I can’t say I like him undermining his own memo at all.
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2018, 09:08:24 pm »
Quote from: edpc on February 05, 2018, 08:59:15 pm

If Nunes is going to go out there and say things that are questionable or demonstrably false, how does this not help opponents when they say this information is incomplete and distorted?  So, no, I can’t say I like him undermining his own memo at all.

I watched your posts yesterday too.  Thanks for confirming.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2018, 09:08:36 pm »
Quote from: edpc on February 05, 2018, 08:59:15 pm

If Nunes is going to go out there and say things that are questionable or demonstrably false, how does this not help opponents when they say this information is incomplete and distorted?  So, no, I can’t say I like him undermining his own memo at all.

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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2018, 09:12:23 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on February 05, 2018, 08:15:27 pm
Nunes, just of Rush, said this was a photo op. It does not mean Papa "knows" Trump

I'm close personal friends with Robert Goulet. I got his autograph and a picture with him in a restaurant in 1983. Same for Aidan Quinn who I met while he was hung over in McCarran airport heading to NYC.
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2018, 09:15:53 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on February 05, 2018, 09:12:23 pm
I'm close personal friends with Robert Goulet. I got his autograph and a picture with him in a restaurant in 1983. Same for Aidan Quinn who I met while he was hung over in McCarran airport heading to NYC.

When I first glanced at the headline I though it read 'Devin Nunes just told Fox & Friends that Trump never met George Papadopoulos. Here's a picture of a bunny with a pancake on its head'.
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2018, 09:21:09 pm »
Fake news. That's not what Nunes said.
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2018, 09:27:21 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 05, 2018, 09:08:24 pm
I watched your posts yesterday too.  Thanks for confirming.


The only things that have been confirmed in this exchange is

A) Nunes has undercut his credibility twice in four days
B) Some have heard ‘Steele’ and nothing else

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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2018, 09:29:18 pm »
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Fake news. That's not what Nunes said.

Kelly Morales' specialty is Fake News.
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2018, 09:31:00 pm »
Quote from: edpc on February 05, 2018, 08:41:01 pm

My point was Nunes grossly mischaractarized the conversation.  Papadopoulos wasn’t just some Foster Brooks kind of guy saying he didn’t like Hillary.  I was also not impressed with something Nunes attempted to slip by in the Baier interview last week.  At the 7:00 mark, he tried to say Swalwell was lying about the political origin of the dossier being made known to the FISA judge.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R9h1Lw-uQpM

He then goes on to describe the scenario in court, call it incredible, then say he doesn’t believe it happened at all.  Not believing it is a far cry from definitely knowing it did not occur.  It’s extremely unhelpful for him to get elastic with the facts.

Nunes did not “get elastic” with the facts.  The political origin was not made known to the FISA judge according to Gowdy who has reviewed it all as he is the lawyer of the bunch.  This is what Nunes was told by Gowdy.  Are you claiming Gowdy is lying?

Let’s play devil’s advocate and pretend that Gowdy is lying, the warrant should not have been accepted as there were no witnesses to anything Steel or the Yahoo article purported that were shown to be credible enough to issue the warrant.  The FBI was playing fast and loose with the facts to get the warrant that was for CARTER PAGE to get the ball rolling to bug Trump Tower.  Papadopoulos did not enter into the equation at all at this time.

I wonder why you feel the need to cast aspersions on Nunes?
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2018, 09:35:49 pm »
Quote from: anubias on February 05, 2018, 09:31:00 pm
Nunes did not “get elastic” with the facts.  The political origin was not made known to the FISA judge according to Gowdy who has reviewed it all as he is the lawyer of the bunch.  This is what Nunes was told by Gowdy.  Are you claiming Gowdy is lying?

Let’s play devil’s advocate and pretend that Gowdy is lying, the warrant should not have been accepted as there were no witnesses to anything Steel or the Yahoo article purported that were shown to be credible enough to issue the warrant.  The FBI was playing fast and loose with the facts to get the warrant that was for CARTER PAGE to get the ball rolling to bug Trump Tower.  Papadopoulos did not enter into the equation at all at this time.

I wonder why you feel the need to cast aspersions on Nunes?

"Bad news" about Trump cheers him up.
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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2018, 09:42:41 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on February 05, 2018, 09:35:49 pm
"Bad news" about Trump cheers him up.

It is mind-boggling to me why any Conservative would want the FBI and DOJ to win on this.  Trump hatred should not extend to desiring the Alphabets to be completely corrupt and run by leftists.  If one’s hatred is so deep that one would rather have the country lose than Trump win on this, well... I just don’t know what to think or say about it.  I can’t comprehend such derangement.
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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2018, 09:45:49 pm »
How quickly the left forgets that any contact with the Russians was basically all predicated on the fact they may have had info on HILLARY'S crimes... you know... her illegal email server, missing emails, and the destruction of devices before handing them over?

Yeah... that.
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2018, 09:48:16 pm »
Quote from: bolobaby on February 05, 2018, 09:45:49 pm
How quickly the left forgets that any contact with the Russians was basically all predicated on the fact they may have had info on HILLARY'S crimes... you know... her illegal email server, missing emails, and the destruction of devices before handing them over?

Yeah... that.

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