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First Excerpts of Nunes Memo Released
« on: February 02, 2018, 04:48:22 pm »
Fox News reporting live ....

Trump declassified the memo and sent it back to Congress for release .... reports are no redactions.
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2018, 04:50:16 pm »
The DOJ relied on media reporting to support the dossier .... that WAS used to obtain a FISA warrant.


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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2018, 04:52:37 pm »
This better be good.
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2018, 04:56:59 pm »
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House Intelligence memo released: What it says
Washington Examiner, Feb 2, 2018, Byron York

The House Intelligence Committee has released its controversial memo outlining alleged abuses of secret surveillance by the FBI and Justice Department in the Trump-Russia investigation. Here are some key points:

* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.

* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.

The FBI and Justice Department mounted a months-long effort to keep the information outlined in the memo out of the House Intelligence Committee's hands. Only the threat of contempt charges and other forms of pressure forced the FBI and Justice to give up the material.

Once Intelligence Committee leaders and staff compiled some of that information into the memo, the FBI and Justice Department, supported by Capitol Hill Democrats, mounted a ferocious campaign of opposition, saying release of the memo would endanger national security and the rule of law.

But Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes never wavered in his determination to make the information available to the public. President Trump agreed, and, as required by House rules, gave his approval for release.

Finally, the memo released today does not represent the sum total of what House investigators have learned in their review of the FBI and Justice Department Trump-Russia investigation. That means the fight over the memo could be replayed in the future when the Intelligence Committee decides to release more information.


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-intel-memo-released-what-it-says/article/2647937?platform=hootsuite

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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2018, 04:57:37 pm »
The full memo is not yet available for publication.
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2018, 05:00:29 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on February 02, 2018, 04:56:59 pm


That's enough right there for many people to go to prison!
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2018, 05:01:35 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on February 02, 2018, 05:00:29 pm
That's enough right there for many people to go to prison!

You'd think so.
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2018, 05:02:06 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on February 02, 2018, 05:00:29 pm
That's enough right there for many people to go to prison!

What is?
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2018, 05:05:19 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on February 02, 2018, 05:02:06 pm
What is?

Using unverified material to obtain FISA warrants for starters. Hiding exculpatory information from the FISA court judge, Abuse of power,... 
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2018, 05:05:39 pm »

House Intelligence memo released: What it says
by Byron York | Feb 2, 2018, 11:48 AM

The House Intelligence Committee has released its controversial memo outlining alleged abuses of secret surveillance by the FBI and Justice Department in the Trump-Russia investigation. Here are some key points:

* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the intial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.

* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-intelligence-memo-released-what-it-says/article/2647937
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2018, 05:07:51 pm »
Reports are the full memo is being uploaded to https://intelligence.house.gov/
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2018, 05:12:04 pm »
The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

This right here is dangerous shit. People need to go to jail for this alone.
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2018, 05:12:13 pm »
The Clinton campaign picked up on the dossier after the Republican donor started the process.  I wonder if we’ll ever find out who that was from the memo.
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2018, 05:14:30 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on February 02, 2018, 05:07:51 pm
Reports are the full memo is being uploaded to https://intelligence.house.gov/

Wonder what "HPSCI" stands for....?   Rampant and hilarious speculation can now commence....

Oh nevermind.   It's not nearly as salacious as I was thinking it would be...lol.
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2018, 05:14:35 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on February 02, 2018, 05:12:04 pm
The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

This right here is dangerous shit. People need to go to jail for this alone.

ABSOLUTELY!
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2018, 05:14:59 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on February 02, 2018, 05:05:19 pm
Using unverified material to obtain FISA warrants for starters. Hiding exculpatory information from the FISA court judge, Abuse of power,...

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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2018, 05:17:00 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on February 02, 2018, 05:14:30 pm
Wonder what "HPSCI" stands for....?   Rampant and hilarious speculation can now commence....

Oh nevermind.   It's not nearly as salacious as I was thinking it would be...lol.

HPSCI. House Permanent Subcommittee on Intelligence 

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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2018, 05:17:42 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on February 02, 2018, 05:17:00 pm
HPSCI. House Permanent Subcommittee on Intelligence 

@XenaLee

Yeah... I figured it out when I took a 2nd look...lol (still working on my first cup of java).
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2018, 05:20:53 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on February 02, 2018, 05:17:42 pm
Yeah... I figured it out when I took a 2nd look...lol (still working on my first cup of java).

That's okay ... I've had more and I still had to look it up.   :laugh:
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2018, 05:21:00 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on February 02, 2018, 05:05:19 pm
Using unverified material to obtain FISA warrants for starters. Hiding exculpatory information from the FISA court judge, Abuse of power,...

@Bigun
They lied to the FISA court.
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2018, 05:22:14 pm »
Without reading the full memo --- just the excerpts--- this has got to affect the Mueller investigation.
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2018, 05:22:25 pm »
Quote from: edpc on February 02, 2018, 05:12:13 pm
The Clinton campaign picked up on the dossier after the Republican donor started the process.  I wonder if we’ll ever find out who that was from the memo.

Washington Beacon, in support of Rubio. IIRC
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2018, 05:22:35 pm »
Quote from: edpc on February 02, 2018, 05:12:13 pm
The Clinton campaign picked up on the dossier after the Republican donor started the process.  I wonder if we’ll ever find out who that was from the memo.

It's irrelevant. The dossier was just typical opo research that all the campaigns do. The problem here is that campaign dirty tricks stuff was not only used as evidence for a FISA warrant, but was not disclosed in the warrant that it was unsubstantiated garbage and the people submitting it knew it was a fraud and used it anyway.

If this is left to stand anyone can use anything to get a warrant on anybody. 
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2018, 05:22:47 pm »
Text link via Drudge.  Traffic will probably crash the server.

http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180129/106822/HMTG-115-IG00-20180129-SD001.pdf
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Re: First Excepts of Nunes Memo Released
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2018, 05:22:48 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on February 02, 2018, 05:21:00 pm
@Bigun
They lied to the FISA court.

Yeah! And the judge should throw their asses in jail for it today!
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