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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2018, 06:31:26 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on January 26, 2018, 06:18:05 pm
No he did not. I have to go but I will post a video of him proposing an amnesty back in the gang of 8
days when I get back.

I hate to have to keep going back and pointing this out, but what you are referring to was Cruz using the Gang of Eight's rhetoric of compassion against them in the well of the senate to highlight the fact the compassion had NOTHING to do with their plan.

You are taking his comments way out of context.

He was against the Dream Act from the beginning.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2018, 06:32:56 pm »
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2018, 06:32:58 pm »
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You can send those back to 2015, too @Sighlass .. Well, if you have any interest in joining the real world, that is.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2018, 06:33:14 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 26, 2018, 06:31:18 pm
Well, to be fair @jpsb ... Cruz seems to have forgotten that Congress gave *him* a path to citizenship.

Actually  I believe that was his mother. 
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2018, 06:37:07 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on January 26, 2018, 06:33:14 pm
Actually  I believe that was his mother.

It was Congress passing a law that made his mother's nationality relevant.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2018, 06:38:23 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on January 26, 2018, 06:09:54 pm
Cruz forgets that he is here illegally.

Somewhere, a kingdom is missing their court jester. I can think of several here that would ably fill that role...and they all voted for Trump.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2018, 06:40:10 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 26, 2018, 06:37:07 pm
It was Congress passing a law that made his mother's nationality relevant.

@Right_in_Virginia
What nationality is Wilmington, Delaware?
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2018, 06:40:18 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 26, 2018, 06:31:18 pm
Well, to be fair @jpsb ... Cruz seems to have forgotten that Congress gave *him* a path to citizenship.

I really, really wish that Trump supporters (some of them) would get over the Cruz hatred.

I support Trump and I think he's doing good work.  This bill is complicated and I won't judge it right now.

But Cruz has been a total gentleman and supported Trump for one solid year.  This is the first time he's publicly disagreed with him.

Trump was vicious to Cruz during the campaign.  It was really hard, but both Cruz and I were able to put that behind us and support Trump.

Time for you guys to do the same.

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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2018, 06:40:46 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on January 26, 2018, 06:18:05 pm
No he did not. I have to go but I will post a video of him proposing an amnesty back in the gang of 8
days when I get back.

Ohh good grief, like none of us were there when this was being debated years ago. Everyone knows Cruz was grandstanding to get that bill (gang of eight) defeated. Even Sessions said as much.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/19/defiant-jeff-sessions-on-gang-of-eight-every-step-of-the-way-ted-cruz-was-on-my-side/
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2018, 06:42:54 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 26, 2018, 06:31:18 pm
Well, to be fair @jpsb ... Cruz seems to have forgotten that Congress gave *him* a path to citizenship.

That's why Congress is in the "Legislative Branch"...they are the law-making body of the federal government, though each law must be signed by the President, of course.

This branch has yielded way too much of its authority to the Executive branch for years. That's why Presidents govern by Executive Order, and the Judicial Branch inserts itself in rewriting laws they don't like.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #60 on: January 26, 2018, 06:43:58 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on January 26, 2018, 06:40:18 pm
I really, really wish that Trump supporters (some of them) would get over the Cruz hatred.

I support Trump and I think he's doing good work.  This bill is complicated and I won't judge it right now.

But Cruz has been a total gentleman and supported Trump for one solid year.  This is the first time he's publicly disagreed with him.

Trump was vicious to Cruz during the campaign.  It was really hard, but both Cruz and I were able to put that behind us and support Trump.

Time for you guys to do the same.

I applaud you, sir.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2018, 06:44:28 pm »
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« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2018, 06:51:39 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on January 26, 2018, 06:40:10 pm
@Right_in_Virginia
What nationality is Wilmington, Delaware?

What's your point @driftdiver .... I'm busy and don't have time for the opaque.  Have a question .... get to it.

Thanks.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #63 on: January 26, 2018, 06:53:36 pm »
What year was it when Trump told the dreamers, after meeting with them "You've convinced me"?
2014?
2013?
It wasn't eons ago.
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« Reply #64 on: January 26, 2018, 06:56:21 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on January 26, 2018, 06:40:18 pm
I really, really wish that Trump supporters (some of them) would get over the Cruz hatred.

I support Trump and I think he's doing good work.  This bill is complicated and I won't judge it right now.

But Cruz has been a total gentleman and supported Trump for one solid year.  This is the first time he's publicly disagreed with him.

Trump was vicious to Cruz during the campaign.  It was really hard, but both Cruz and I were able to put that behind us and support Trump.

Time for you guys to do the same. 

This is not hatred of Cruz from Trump supporters @Emjay  .... this is frustration with certain levels of bitterness holding some folks from moving forward and leaving the primaries behind.

Cruz is a good Senator for Texas.  Your time might be better spent working on and contributing to his reelection efforts.

Just a suggestion.

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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #65 on: January 26, 2018, 06:56:58 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on January 26, 2018, 06:53:36 pm
What year was it when Trump told the dreamers, after meeting with them "You've convinced me"?
2014?
2013?
It wasn't eons ago.

2013

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-trump-dreamers-20161215-story.html
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #66 on: January 26, 2018, 07:00:33 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 26, 2018, 06:56:21 pm
This is not hatred of Cruz from Trump supporters @Emjay  .... this is frustration with certain levels of bitterness holding some folks from moving forward and leaving the primaries behind.

Cruz is a good Senator for Texas.  Your time might be better spent working on and contributing to his reelection efforts.

Just a suggestion.

That is BS.  You cannot possibly even attempt to deny that the very mention of Ted Cruz is Kryptonite to your soul and the lashing out is reflexive.

Don't even think about telling me how to better spend my time. 

I have defended you many times on this forum but this is a bridge too far.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #67 on: January 26, 2018, 07:00:50 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on January 26, 2018, 06:53:36 pm
What year was it when Trump told the dreamers, after meeting with them "You've convinced me"?
2014?
2013?
It wasn't eons ago.

I'm sure fruit flies would disagree with you...their life span is 40-50 days.  lol, but that's sometimes longer than many  The Donald's firmly held principles.

Quote
http://"Leaders, true leaders, take responsibility for the success of the team, and understand that they must also take responsibility for the failure."

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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #68 on: January 26, 2018, 07:01:44 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on January 26, 2018, 06:43:58 pm
I applaud you, sir.

Thanks.

However, I am, and have always been, a girl.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #69 on: January 26, 2018, 07:02:19 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on January 26, 2018, 06:40:18 pm
I really, really wish that Trump supporters (some of them) would get over the Cruz hatred.

I support Trump and I think he's doing good work.  This bill is complicated and I won't judge it right now.

But Cruz has been a total gentleman and supported Trump for one solid year.  This is the first time he's publicly disagreed with him.

Trump was vicious to Cruz during the campaign.  It was really hard, but both Cruz and I were able to put that behind us and support Trump.

Time for you guys to do the same.
I absolutely agree. 

"I really, really wish that Cruz supporters (some of them) would get over the Trump hatred.

I support Trump and I think he's doing good work."
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« Reply #70 on: January 26, 2018, 07:04:52 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on January 26, 2018, 07:02:19 pm
I absolutely agree. 

"I really, really wish that Cruz supporters (some of them) would get over the Trump hatred.

I support Trump and I think he's doing good work."

I agree that Trump has done generally good work up to now but this current amnesty proposal does not fall into the category of "good work" IMHO.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #71 on: January 26, 2018, 07:07:37 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on January 26, 2018, 07:02:19 pm
I absolutely agree. 

"I really, really wish that Cruz supporters (some of them) would get over the Trump hatred.

I support Trump and I think he's doing good work."

Don't be an ass.  As soon as Trump was elected, I started supporting him and so did Ted Cruz.

You cannot name one time when Ted failed to back Trump on his initiatives.  This is one point where rabid Trumpers are totally insane.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #72 on: January 26, 2018, 07:10:10 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on January 26, 2018, 07:07:37 pm
Don't be an ass.  As soon as Trump was elected, I started supporting him and so did Ted Cruz.

You cannot name one time when Ted failed to back Trump on his initiatives.  This is one point where rabid Trumpers are totally insane.

Stand back a couple of steps. I did NOT write your own words about YOU.

I said "some of them," as did you.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #73 on: January 26, 2018, 07:16:57 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on January 26, 2018, 07:10:10 pm
Stand back a couple of steps. I did NOT write your own words about YOU.

I said "some of them," as did you.

You stand back.  It is actually possible to like two people in politics.  I stand by what I said about Trump and I stand by what I said about Cruz.

AND  Trump had better listen to Cruz on this issue and consult him because Trump desperately needs to go in the right direction here.

I venture over to TOS occasionally to check the sentiment over there and many of them would turn against Trump if he makes the wrong move on the immigration issue.

It is a perilous time for Trump and he needs to take the counsel of Ted Cruz very seriously here.
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« Reply #74 on: January 26, 2018, 07:21:12 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 26, 2018, 04:09:33 pm
Wish one of our Trump orange contingent here would explain how Trump didn't cave on what was his signature campaign issue.

To be fair, Trump supported touchback amnesty during the campaign.  With this new deal, he is merely dropping the 'touchback' part.
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