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Sorta like the border wall was just meant to be symbolic.
By offering a horrible and loosing proposition? Okay then...
He's managed to get away with it because the Dems always overreach, giving Trump a chance to tie them back. If they ever stop doing that and start settling for what they can get easily, this strategy is in trouble.
It's already happening @Cyber Liberty ... only it's coming the Dem's "base" pushing Congressional Democrats deeper and deeper into the corner.First, it's the protests, including the ones outside Schumer's home and now a flat out rejection of the President's proposal by "Dreamer action groups". More here: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,301277.0.html
The reality of the matter is that Trump has already announced the he is willing to grant amnesty to an estimated 1.8 million DACA recipients and has been quoted on that by just about every news source. It doesn't matter what he's hoping to get along with that; he's agreed to amnesty. It doesn't get much clearer than that. Two things; in doing so, he's put a noose around every GOP's neck who won't go along with amnesty and he's set a precedent for every illegal here. Most significantly, he's backpedaled and he's LIED! There's no other way to look at this. He lied. He specifically stated "no amnesty". He could bring about the largest tax reform in history and jump start the economy but at the end of the day he's handed the left millions of voters. Voters for the most part that don't want to assimilate and with no way to end the succession of people flowing into this country. He will have succeeded in giving away our sovereignty and IMHO, this may have been all by design long ago before he even announced his run for the presidency. After all Clinton proclaimed that her dream was to see “open trade and open borders†throughout the Western Hemisphere.
RE: bold"I told them I'd take the heat....and sign whatever they bring me".We've already witnessed Pres. Trump's negotiating style with that televised White House meeting with heads of House and Senate.He KNOWS they will always overreach.And as I stated previously, "amnesty" is coming for the DACAs....like it or not. They only thing that should concern all of us is their right to vote. THAT must NOT happen for a minimum of 10years.Give Pres. Trump's strategy to bring back America to greatness a chance before the DEMS can wreck the place again.
Problem is the ten years till they vote will last about as long as it takes Trump to finish his term, maybe sooner.There's no way they'll grant them amnesty and not immediately begin the push to give them the vote. Which they will promptly get.
It could very well be they can't "take what they can" because their base won't permit it.
The other problem is the wall. It won't be built in time to stop another wave of illegals. The Rats will tie up the actual construction in the courts with environmental and eminent domain issues. They will also tie up ending chain migration in the courts while another 5-6 million people get the right to be here.
They're going to publicly unveil this on Monday. Given the negative reaction it's received from both sides, it'll be interesting to see if anything has changed over four days or how they'll attempt to sell it as is.
The unveiling for Monday has been cancelled. I linked the Breitbart article on another post.
So, to take advantage of their overreach, his starting position is to overreach? Just not working....
He comes out and says "bring me something to sign. I'll sign it". You saw how that ended...with Pelosi and Schumer wearing egg.He comes out and says, "Amnesty for 1.8 million in exchange for THE WALL" is essentially the same thing as "Bring me something.....".if you can't follow the bouncing ball, ....can't help you. ^-^
Exactly - what if he "wins" this one?
He would be in a position analogous to a dog who caught the car.
I can follow it. The terrible Graham-Durbin proposal wanted to cover about 3.2M total. This really bad WH proposal has a figure of 1.8M people. Seems like we're heading for a compromise between terrible and really bad for an appalling deal that ends up with 2.5M receiving legal status and eventual citizenship.Chain migration won't end. It'll only get scaled back. The wall funding can always be blocked by a future congress. What we'll end up getting is a free ride for illegals and a bunch of broken promises on enforcement. Feels a lot like 1986.MakeAmericaGullibleAgain
Trump supporters see it like this:
DACA is all the Dems have as an issue. They cannot and will not agree to anything Trump comes up with or they will not have an issue for 2020.I have no idea of what Trump is thinking other than what he wrote in his book and what he has done in the past. I *think* he made the offer knowing that Chuckie Schmuckie would never agree to it, the results being, “See? I tried to work with these cretins. They refused to compromise.†I think the offer will be rescinded, what Trump really wants passed that our lovely RINOs will allow will be done via reconciliation. I refuse to be Chicken Little until the fat lady has sung.The rest of you can set fire to your hair as is your wont, but until this is finished, none of us knows what Trump is truly doing.
