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Against the Tariffs
« on: January 25, 2018, 04:29:24 pm »
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455731/against-tariffs-trump-solar-panels-washing-machines-china-mexico-south-korea-manufacturers-trade-deficit-capital-surplus

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Signaling that protectionist trade measures remain at the top of his agenda, President Donald Trump imposed punitive duties on imported solar panels and washing machines, a move intended to put pressure on politically connected manufacturers in China, South Korea, and Mexico, and by extension on the governments of those countries. This is a mistake . . .

. . . Populists peddle tariffs as a punitive measure enacted on shadowy foreign business interests, but what they are in fact is a sales tax on American consumers. They protect inefficient producers by raising the prices of competitors that consumers would otherwise prefer. Sometimes, that results in the competitor being priced out of the market entirely, but it is just as often the case that domestic producers simply take the opportunity to raise their prices and broaden their profit margin. That’s fine for the CEOs and shareholders of the favored firms, but it is a raw deal for Americans who end up with higher prices and fewer choices . . .

. . . Samsung already manufactures appliances in the United States, as do China’s Qingdao Haier and several other Asian manufacturing giants. Many also operate in Canada and Mexico. Assuming that they find themselves unable to simply pass costs along to consumers, it is possible they could shift some production to the United States, but it is just as likely if not more so that they would shift some production to Mexico, doing most of the manufacturing work in their Asian factories but reserving final assembly to a plant somewhere inside the NAFTA free-trade zone, where they will have a considerably better chance of successfully contesting the tariffs. Again, all tariffs would accomplish in this case would be to distort markets and disrupt supply chains . . . The solar-industry trade association is predicting the loss of 23,000 jobs this year. There are in fact only a few U.S. firms engaged in the business of manufacturing solar panels. Kneecapping an entire industry in the service of a handful of politically favored firms isn’t shrewd economic policy — it’s crony capitalism . . .



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Re: Against the Tariffs
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2018, 06:41:04 pm »
One of the things I oppose Trump on. I don't think he understands basic economics. I was hoping some of the smarter people advising him would deter him, but it appears either they agree with him or he's ignoring their advice.

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Re: Against the Tariffs
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2018, 09:46:41 pm »
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In response to the implementation of a tariff on washing machine imports, both Samsung and LG announced price increases on their foreign-made appliances.

“As a result of the trade situation, we will be initiating pricing actions, which will be sent under separate cover shortly,” LG Home Appliances Executive VP Thomas Yoon said in a memo to LG’s retail partners. “Your LG sales representative will be in contact with you to review and confirm existing supply plans and develop plans for future promotions later in the year.”

A broader statement issued by LG called the decision to implement the hefty tariff on washing machine imports “misguided” and a “textbook case about how certain companies can game the process to use trade laws to try to accomplish what they can’t accomplish in the marketplace.”

http://www.dealerscope.com/article/lg-samsung-respond-quickly-trump-washing-machine-tariff/
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Re: Against the Tariffs
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2018, 12:00:39 am »
http://www.dealerscope.com/article/lg-samsung-respond-quickly-trump-washing-machine-tariff/
All because, for whatever perverse reason, Donaldus Minimus thinks it's unfair of American washing machine buyers to prefer
equal-to-superior-but-less-expensive Samsung (who have been building them in the United States for a number of years) and
LG (who began building an American plant in Tennessee last summer) to those made by Whirlpool, which has been nagging
Washington for a number of years to slap such tariffs on.

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Whirlpool Has Trapped Washington in a Spin Cycle
The washing-machine maker’s close relationship with the government may pose problems for consumers

By George F. Will
16 December 2017
http://www.nationalreview.com/node/454698/print

A household appliance will be the next stepping stone on America’s path to restored greatness. The government is poised to punish many Americans, in the name of protecting a few of them, because, in the government’s opinion, too many of them are choosing to buy foreign-made washing machines for no better reason than that the buyers think they are better. If you are wondering why the government is squandering its dwindling prestige by having opinions about such things, you have not been paying attention to Whirlpool’s demonstration that it is more adept at manipulating Washington than it is at making washing machines.

In 2006, when Whirlpool was paying $1.7 billion to buy its largest competitor, Maytag, federal regulators fretted that this would give the company too much market power. Whirlpool said: Fear not, competition from foreign manufacturers such as South Korea’s Samsung and LG will keep us sharp and benefit American consumers. Now, however, Whirlpool, which is weary of competition, has persuaded the U.S. International Trade Commission to rule that Samsung and LG should be reproached for what, eleven years ago, Whirlpool said it welcomed: competition.

The U.S. market for washing machines has grown 35 percent in just five years. Whirlpool’s share of this market, although not the 70 percent it was in 2006, is still more than Samsung’s and LG’s combined 35 percent. In this happy circumstance, Whirlpool is profitable. It would, however, like to be more so . . .

. . . Before Whirlpool became dependent on government, it depended on Sears, which in the 1920s threw a financial lifeline to a struggling appliance manufacturer, Upton Machine Co., that became Whirlpool. According to the Wall Street Journal, as recently as 2002, when Sears sold 40 percent of the major appliances bought in America, sales through Sears generated about a fifth of Whirlpool’s revenues. In October, Sears announced that it would stop selling Whirlpool-brand products because Whirlpool is powerful enough to make pricing demands that “would have prohibited us from” selling those products “at a reasonable price.”

Sears is not what it was just 15 years ago, and is a shadow of what it was in the 1960s, when its sales were almost 1 percent of U.S. GDP. Sears has been prostrated not by perfidious foreigners but by America’s efficient “big box” retailers (Walmart, Home Depot, Best Buy, Lowe’s, etc.) and by Amazon. The real villains, however, are American consumers, with their persnickety search for high quality and low prices . . .

p.s. I've just put a load of laundry into . . . my nice front-loading LG machine. Which I've had for nine years and counting.
And as soon as that's done, it's going into that nice matching LG dryer of the same age, and counting.
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Re: Against the Tariffs
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2018, 12:36:27 am »
How many families in the US will be replacing their existing (or buying their first) washing machine in the next decade?

How many families in China will be buying their first (or replacing their existing) washing machine in the next decade?

Now replace "washing machine" with "just about anything" in the above.

The world is changing.  We are used to being THE all-important customer market.  Even if one believed, or even continues to believe, that tarriffs and "protection"ism were/are a good thing, it's important to be very cautious that we don't "protect" our producers from selling into what will probably be the largest wave of upward mobility in history.
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Re: Against the Tariffs
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2018, 02:13:16 am »
How many families in the US will be replacing their existing (or buying their first) washing machine in the next decade?

How many families in China will be buying their first (or replacing their existing) washing machine in the next decade?

Now replace "washing machine" with "just about anything" in the above.

The world is changing.  We are used to being THE all-important customer market.  Even if one believed, or even continues to believe, that tarriffs and "protection"ism were/are a good thing, it's important to be very cautious that we don't "protect" our producers from selling into what will probably be the largest wave of upward mobility in history.
It seems all the backers of Trump's economic policies are not aware that other countries buy our products. They can slap tariffs on them as well.  Smoot-Hawley didn't cause the Great Depression, but it did make it worse.
Trump appears to be an economics ignoramus.  But his loyal followers love him thinking stuff like this will create jobs. It will most likely lose them.