Tony Perkins: Trump gets a 'mulligan' over Stormy Daniels from Evangelicals

[Frank Cannon]

Sadly, they were sold out of the new Larger Size of the water.   So I ordered the Popoff Miracle Manna instead.  Now based on the claims, Miracle Manna is cake from heaven that empowers you to do God’s will. Also it would cause people to write large checks to me for reasons unknown.  As if that wasn't enough, All my dreams were to come true.

God provides to those with a checking account or access to money orders.

[kevindavis007]

I am not that religious either. And I have no illusions that all men, even men we otherwise respect are necessarily perfect especially in their sex lives.

However, I do find it strange and hypercritical that a pastor would use a term like “mulligan” to excuse Trump’s very real and alleged marital infidelities especially considering what Trump has unrepentantly said himself about them and said he thinks he doesn’t need to ask for forgiveness from God.

If someone confesses their sin and repents and goes on to sin no more, that I can understand a pastor or man of God saying the sinner is forgiven, but a "mulligan"? I don't recall Jesus ever using that term or saying…. “Bear with each other and give a mulligan to one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Give a mulligan as the Lord gave a mulligan to you.”

And for what it's worth, as someone who plays the game, in golf, a mulligan is actually against the rules. It is typically a bad tee shot that someone doesn't count as a stroke and takes over as if the first one never happened and people who take mulligans in golf are known as cheaters. And FWIW, Trump has been known as doing just that - cheating in golf by not counting all his strokes and not playing by the rules.

But the even bigger issue to me, lest anyone loses sight of it, was the (alleged) payoff for the silence.

If he’s willing to pay off whores to keep his sexcapades silent, who else and for what else is he willing to pay off? Think about that.

With Nixon and Clinton, it was the cover up and the lying about the cover up that nailed them.

To be fair, I'm not sure if the story is true or not, however, if it is true, that is good. It is not the act, but the cover up is what gets you in trouble.

[Frank Cannon]

To be fair, I'm not sure if the story is true or not, however, if it is true, that is good. It is not the act, but the cover up is what gets you in trouble.

Really? What type of punishment is there for a 12 year old affair being covered up? Will he lose his gig on The Apprentice? Will Melania divorce him retroactively and abort Barron?

[Night Hides Not]

Well @musiclady the Sanhedrin wing of Christianity hasn't and will not garner enough power to change our Republic into a Theocracy.   I hope you find a way to deal with it.

But, in the meantime, thank God --- it looks like an angel directs this whirlwind still.   

I was unaware there was a Sanhedrin wing of Christianity.

Personally, I think you are deliberately insulting musiclady by suggesting she longs for a theocracy. I have read nothing of the sort in her posts.

IMO, it is Trump supporters desiring a theocracy, led by Mr. Trump himself.

[musiclady]

You're right. I need to follow the leadership of Evangelicals from back in your good old days. They knew what they were talking about with moral leadership.....

I'm talking about actual evangelical people........ not the phony entertainers in your photos.

But then you probably knew that and are just playing another one of your stupid games.

I ain't playing. 

And I'm not giving up eternal values because of a rude internet provocateur like you.

You might as well stop trying, Frank.

[Frank Cannon]

I'm talking about actual evangelical people........ not the phony entertainers in your photos.

Sliding scale on who is an Evangelical or not? That seems fairly Christian like.

[musiclady]

Sliding scale on who is an Evangelical or not? That seems fairly Christian like.

You must think I'm extraordinarily stupid if you think I'm going to be sucked into your gotcha game.

If you think JFK's horrid behavior was known about and approved by Evangelical Christians and you actually think the jerks whose photographs you posted represent Christ, and His followers, then I'm not the one suffering from stupidity.

Again.......... your games are as transparent as your arguments are shallow and meaningless.

Not playing.

You're just wrong, and I'm pretty sure you know it.  Maybe you should stick to your forte and just post dirty pictures and say dirty words and stay away from meaningful conversations, eh??

 

[INVAR]

Really? What type of punishment is there for a 12 year old affair being covered up? Will he lose his gig on The Apprentice? Will Melania divorce him retroactively and abort Barron?

What I find amusing is that a fella who has been divorced several times due to the fact he cannot honor his own marriage vows, and bragged about bedding other mens' wives, can be so tiresome in their efforts to insist that he can be trusted to keep his oath of office and his campaign promises by ridiculing and shaming those who don't.

Because you know.... compartmentalization.  Just because a guy is a slime ball in his personal and professional life, does not mean he will be a slime ball when in elective office it is said.

The whole idea of mulligans for bad behavior in order to exonerate a performance in office was considered stupid by Conservatives when Herr Schlicklinton was busy staining blue dresses at one time.   However, apparently today a similar pattern and history of behavior is now viewed as a High Office resume enhancer, just as Democrats do.

[Frank Cannon]

What I find amusing is that a fella who has been divorced several times due to the fact he cannot honor his own marriage vows, and bragged about bedding other mens' wives, can be so tiresome in their efforts to insist that he can be trusted to keep his oath of office and his campaign promises by ridiculing and shaming those who don't.

Because you know.... compartmentalization.  Just because a guy is a slime ball in his personal and professional life, does not mean he will be a slime ball when in elective office it is said.

The whole idea of mulligans for bad behavior in order to exonerate a performance in office was considered stupid by Conservatives when Herr Schlicklinton was busy staining blue dresses at one time.   However, apparently today a similar pattern and history of behavior is now viewed as a High Office resume enhancer, just as Democrats do.

You are just upset that no one gives a shit about your latest daily grievance about Trump. Sucks to be you.

[INVAR]

You are just upset that no one gives a shit about your latest daily grievance about Trump. Sucks to be you.

What grievance about Trump would that be Frank? 

Usually I'm commenting about what other people have to say about an issue related to a Trump thing or yet another 'you suck because you don't support Trump' thread - not usually something said or done by Trump himself.

Unless of course his thumbs act stupidly - which they do from time to time.

Then there are issues bigger than Trump that garner my undivided attentions and grievances, usually revolving around liberty and core Christian/Conservative principles.

But of course - then there are the threads you end up convulsing my funny bone with your schtick, of which I particularly enjoy when encountered.

It is in those instances that you make my suckage less sucky.

So thank you, for that.

[Frank Cannon]

What grievance about Trump would that be Frank? 

Usually I'm commenting about what other people have to say about an issue related to a Trump thing or yet another 'you suck because you don't support Trump' thread - not usually something said or done by Trump himself.

Unless of course his thumbs act stupidly - which they do from time to time.

Then there are issues bigger than Trump that garner my undivided attentions and grievances, usually revolving around liberty and core Christian/Conservative principles.

But of course - then there are the threads you end up convulsing my funny bone with your schtick, of which I particularly enjoy when encountered.

It is in those instances that you make my suckage less sucky.

So thank you, for that.

Well then I guess you have little or no confidence in your faith since you need some elected official to be your moral compass.

[ConservativeGranny]

I know how we can settle this once and for all. Let us ask Trump's own spiritual advisor Paula White.

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-suggests-people-send-her-salary-775228?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

[driftdiver]

Well then I guess you have little or no confidence in your faith since you need some elected official to be your moral compass.

The time for this discussion is during the primaries.   This "event" didn't occur during the campaign. 

[edpc]

The time for this discussion is during the primaries.   This "event" didn't occur during the campaign.

The "payoff" did.

[INVAR]

Well then I guess you have little or no confidence in your faith since you need some elected official to be your moral compass.

What're you drinking' tonight Frank?  I assume you have had a goodly amount to have gleaned that from anything I have ever posted online.

[driftdiver]

The "payoff" did.

The payoff she said she didn't get?

[edpc]

The payoff she said she didn't get?

You mean in the hilariously typed note where she signed with her porn name and did everything but put a heart over the 'i' in Daniels?  I suppose she can say she didn't get the payment, since Cohen transferred the funds to 'Peggy Peterson.'

[Concerned]

The payoff she said she didn't get?

The payoff she said she didn't get from Trump.  She allegedly actually got the payoff from an LLC funded by Trump's personal attorney.

[corbe]

The payoff she said she didn't get?

   So now she's credible?  Admit it @driftdiver Our President is a sucker for big boobs.

[driftdiver]

   So now she's credible?  Admit it @driftdiver Our President is a sucker for big boobs.

@corbe

Most men are

[edpc]

Stormy started the process to challenge Vitter in 2010.  Gives new definition to ‘exploratory committee.’

[kevindavis007]

[edpc]

Franklin Graham has weighed in similarly.......


Even If Trump Cheated On Melania, ‘All Of Us Are Sinners,’ Says Evangelical Leader


President Donald Trump continues to receive evangelical support even after his alleged 2006 affair with adult film star Stormy Daniels because he is a “changed person,” one leader of the religion said.

“All of us are sinners,” Franklin Graham, president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, said in a CNN interview Tuesday night.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/even-trump-cheated-melania-us-184211799.html

[driftdiver]

Are we looking for a religious leader or a political leader?

[Concerned]

As expected, the Left is quick to point out the hypocrisy.  From Eugene Robinson:

After all, Perkins’ predecessor at the Family Research Council, Gary Bauer, said this when Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky was revealed in 1998: “Character counts — in a people, in the institutions of our society, and in our national leadership.”

Apparently it only counts when a Democrat is in the White House, not a Republican. I’m still looking for the Bible verse that spells out this distinction, but it must be in there somewhere.

Unfortunately, I think he's right.

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2018/01/25/eugene-robinson-the-president-and-the-porn-star/