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Trump officials want 2020 census to ask about citizenship
« on: January 22, 2018, 02:03:09 pm »
 By James Varney - The Washington Times - Sunday, January 21, 2018

The U.S. census asks about age and ethnicity, but doesn’t currently ask residents whether they’re citizens — something the Trump administration wants to change in time for the 2020 count.

Like much of the Trump agenda, it’s not happening without a fight.

The Justice Department’s petition to add citizenship questions to the upcoming census has ignited a firestorm of criticism from immigrant-rights advocates who say immigrants will shun the process if they’re asked to reveal that particular piece of information.

“Such a question would likely depress participation in the 2020 census from immigrants who fear the government could use the information to target them,” wrote Sen. Dianne Feinstein, ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, in a letter signed by her and four of her Democratic colleagues.

“This chilling effect could lead to broad inaccuracies across the board, from how congressional districts are drawn to how government funds are distributed,” the senators said.

The census says some $675 billion, or nearly a fifth of all federal spending, relies on its numbers. The federal

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Re: Trump officials want 2020 census to ask about citizenship
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 02:56:03 pm »
As well it should.
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Re: Trump officials want 2020 census to ask about citizenship
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 02:57:27 pm »
As well it should.

There is no need to ask the question as the answer can readily be determined without it.
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Re: Trump officials want 2020 census to ask about citizenship
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 03:06:55 pm »
There is no need to ask the question as the answer can readily be determined without it.

Really?  Do tell.

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Re: Trump officials want 2020 census to ask about citizenship
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 03:08:08 pm »
“Such a question would likely depress participation in the 2020 census from immigrants who fear the government could use the information to target them,” wrote Sen. Dianne Feinstein, ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee....


What she’s really saying is the census is used to determine the amount of representatives there are in Congress and not counting aliens disproportionately affects Democrats - especially in California.
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Re: Trump officials want 2020 census to ask about citizenship
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2018, 03:08:42 pm »
There is no need to ask the question as the answer can readily be determined without it.

And furthermore, how many illegals are going to tell the truth?

But I still wonder with regard to the democRAT's response, how many illegals are supposed to be accounted for in apportionment for Congress, and distribution of federal funds?
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Re: Trump officials want 2020 census to ask about citizenship
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2018, 03:09:07 pm »
Really?  Do tell.

As I recall there are a number of questions already asked that would reveal the answer to that one if anyone ever chose to really look.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2018, 03:09:45 pm »
As I recall there are a number of questions already asked that would reveal the answer to that one if anyone ever chose to really look.

So it shouldn’t be a problem for you to point that out.

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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2018, 03:12:42 pm »
So it shouldn’t be a problem for you to point that out.

It shouldn't be a problem for you to find the form and see for yourself.
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 03:17:21 pm »
This is a good time to stock up on your fava beans and chianti.
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Re: Trump officials want 2020 census to ask about citizenship
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 03:20:21 pm »
Given all of the intrusive questions Obama added to the last census...this is mild in comparison.
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Re: Trump officials want 2020 census to ask about citizenship
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2018, 03:48:15 pm »
There actually is precedent for this. Reading Federalist 55, people who were not considered citizens were also counted and set aside- for the sake of allocation numbers, they were only counted as 3/5th to 1.  They referred to those as people: "people ought not to be (counted)".

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Re: Trump officials want 2020 census to ask about citizenship
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2018, 06:27:32 pm »
They need to put on the form; "if you are not a U.S. citizen, please check here for instant monetary benefits"...
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Re: Trump officials want 2020 census to ask about citizenship
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2018, 06:32:39 pm »
They need to put on the form; "if you are not a U.S. citizen, please check here for instant monetary benefits"...


Or they could always hold a raffle for prizes, like a free trip back home......


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Re: Trump officials want 2020 census to ask about citizenship
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2018, 06:53:31 pm »
Census worker asks: "are you a US citizen?

Response: "no, but I am a legal resident."

Does the census worker ask for a document?

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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2018, 07:00:09 pm »
The Dems specifically in the blue states are desperate to count everyone they can to include chimps and squirrels so they can keep the number of seats in congress.
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2018, 10:57:29 pm »
The Dems specifically in the blue states are desperate to count everyone they can to include chimps and squirrels so they can keep the number of seats in congress.


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