GOP Lawmakers Demand That 'Alarming' Memo On FISA Abuses Be Made Public

[ConservativeGranny]

@Concerned
The DOJ works for Trump.    Trump can fire anyone in the executive branch

But he cannot fire the special investigator/prosecutor. There is a good reason for that for example when the investigation involves the POTUS. The POTUS is not a king and the special investigator does not answer to the President. Wonder if Clinton had tried to fire Starr? What would we all be saying about that? Session recused himself so the only one who can fire Mueller is Rosenstein and he isn't going to do it. That leaves Trump with one option and that is to do what Clinton did and try to discredit Mueller which is what they are attempting to do. The Russians are trying to help which is kind of ironic since this is what Mueller's investigation is investigating

We cannot have a President who has power to fire a special investigator/prosecutor. If we do we will be no better than any third world "****hole".

[Fantom]

But he cannot fire the special investigator/prosecutor. There is a good reason for that for example when the investigation involves the POTUS. The POTUS is not a king and the special investigator does not answer to the President. Wonder if Clinton had tried to fire Starr? What would we all be saying about that? Session recused himself so the only one who can fire Mueller is Rosenstein and he isn't going to do it. That leaves Trump with one option and that is to do what Clinton did and try to discredit Mueller which is what they are attempting to do. The Russians are trying to help which is kind of ironic since this is what Mueller's investigation is investigating

We cannot have a President who has power to fire a special investigator/prosecutor. If we do we will be no better than any third world "****hole".

Wrong,  The President can fire them. That point is without dispute.

Politically it would be suicide.

[ConservativeGranny]

 

Then that law is patently unconstitutional as it encroaches on presidential power.

Actually that law protects our Republic and Constitution. We are not ruled by kings here. If the president can fire a special prosecutor he can effectively shut down any investigation into his administration or himself. Apparently some people are fine with that when the president is playing for their team but what about when the POTUS has a "D" after their name.

[ConservativeGranny]

Wrong,  The President can fire them. That point is without dispute.

Politically it would be suicide.

Show me in the laws written covering a special prosecutor/investigator that says the president can do this. Until you can point to that this point is not in dispute.

[Fantom]

Actually that law protects our Republic and Constitution. We are not ruled by kings here. If the president can fire a special prosecutor he can effectively shut down any investigation into his administration or himself. Apparently some people are fine with that when the president is playing for their team but what about when the POTUS has a "D" after their name.

Actually, a "Special Prosecutor" has to be appointed by the DOJ. That is why there never was one appointed to investigate obama.  He owned his DOJ.

This one on President Trump is pure partisan BS. Deep State/GOPE/ garbage which should never have had life breathed into it's existence.

It is an attempted coup against the President America elected.. from damn near day one...based on a lie.

Sickens this Cruz man actually.

[edpc]

Show me in the laws written covering a special prosecutor/investigator that says the president can do this. Until you can point to that this point is not in dispute.

See my post 26 on the previous page.  One of the people who helped write special counsel rules says it’s possible and states why. It is well within the constitutional power of the executive. Whether it’s a good political move, at this point, is another story.

[Fantom]

Show me in the laws written covering a special prosecutor/investigator that says the president can do this. Until you can point to that this point is not in dispute.

Show me otherwise. Prove your point... that is right, you cannot.

The "Special Prosecutor" is appointed and serves by discretion of the DOJ. An executive department  serving at the discretion of the President.

Really, it is not in dispute. The Pres can fire the DOJ head if the DOJ head does not do what he wishes. Including firing a special prosecutor. Hell, the Executive..The Pres can do it himself if he wishes.

Now that may well trigger an impeachment. But the President has sole power over the Executive branch.

Care to prove otherwise?

[libertybele]

Wrong,  The President can fire them. That point is without dispute.

Politically it would be suicide.

Not sure I agree; if he doesn't fire Rosenstein it will be political suicide as people are beginning to wonder why he hasn't with all the corruption that is surrounding him and Mueller.  However, my hunch is IF the memo is released, he's not going to have to give reason for firing him.  The public will be demanding he be fired and held responsible along with a slew of others.  BUT, quite honestly, I have very little confidence that this information will be made public and feel that somehow it will be buried along with all the corruption that's been ongoing for at least a decade if not longer.

[GrouchoTex]

Dems now spinning this as "Republican talking points pushed by Russian bots to obfuscate Mueller's investigation".

So, they know what's coming and are trying to discredit it.

[Fantom]

Not sure I agree; if he doesn't fire Rosenstein it will be political suicide as people are beginning to wonder why he hasn't with all the corruption that is surrounding him and Mueller.  However, my hunch is IF the memo is released, he's not going to have to give reason for firing him.  The public will be demanding he be fired and held responsible along with a slew of others.  BUT, quite honestly, I have very little confidence that this information will be made public and feel that somehow it will be buried along with all the corruption that's been ongoing for at least a decade if not longer.

I think we are talking past each other.   ^-^

[Emjay]

Not sure I agree; if he doesn't fire Rosenstein it will be political suicide as people are beginning to wonder why he hasn't with all the corruption that is surrounding him and Mueller.  However, my hunch is IF the memo is released, he's not going to have to give reason for firing him.  The public will be demanding he be fired and held responsible along with a slew of others.  BUT, quite honestly, I have very little confidence that this information will be made public and feel that somehow it will be buried along with all the corruption that's been ongoing for at least a decade if not longer.

I think the furor over this is reaching the point where the memo will have to be released.

[RetBobbyMI]

It makes sense to me. They must get this done before Bannon and Lewandowski testify to Mueller. They are running out of options to get rid of Mueller and he is getting too close. They need to shut this investigation down so we will be seeing some desperate measures. I understand Twitter  has said that the Russian Bots are working overtime on this one.

"The frequency with which the accounts have been promoting the hashtag has spiked by 233,000% over the past 48 hours, according to the site. The accounts’ references to the “memo,” meanwhile, have increased by 68,000%.

The most-shared domain among the accounts has been WikiLeaks, and the most-shared URL has been a link to WikiLeaks’ “submit” page."

http://www.businessinsider.com/release-the-memo-campaign-russia-linked-twitter-accounts-2018-1

You would think we should be concerned when one of our enemies is putting this much effort and money into obstructing an investigation involving our President. But I guess not.

I don't think Mueller is the main focus right now.  All his spies and goons have been cut out from underneath him.  If he had anything credible, he would have gotten an indictment by now.  Now with no spies and goons he doesn't have the resources to get what he need using the deep state underworld.