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Offline Fishrrman

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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2018, 11:14:33 pm »
Invar wrote:
"They can lecture to themselves.  I'm not listening to them."

I stopped listening many years ago. It was the logical and rational thing to do.
These days, I'm what you might call "a racial realist".

... and dfwgator wrote:
"Trump is a Culturalist (and so am I),  we believe in the superiority of Western Civilization.  Sorry if the snowflakes can't handle that."

Hear, hear!
Let me state before all the members of this forum:
I'm a bigot.
No equivocating. I said it plain and you read it right.
I'm a "bigot" for Western Civilization, above all others.
I consider other cultures to be INFERIOR to ours.

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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2018, 11:33:21 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on January 16, 2018, 07:06:22 pm
Does one prune with pinking shears or loopers (loppers?)

Sounds like a plum job.
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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2018, 11:38:05 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 16, 2018, 11:33:21 pm
Sounds like a plum job.

Yes.  It really is a cherry job. 

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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2018, 12:11:16 am »
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O'Donnell:  “I just find it very hard to believe that there aren’t more people who know him who don’t believe exactly what I believe, but for one reason or another aren’t willing to say it publicly, that he is a racist”

That's it?  Seriously, that's it?  He finds it hard to believe?  Are you friggin' kidding me?

No quotes.  No anecdotes.  No stories.  No testimony.  Only  “I just find it very hard to believe  .  .  .".


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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2018, 12:39:47 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 17, 2018, 12:11:16 am
That's it?  Seriously, that's it?  He finds it hard to believe?  Are you friggin' kidding me?

No quotes.  No anecdotes.  No stories.  No testimony.  Only  “I just find it very hard to believe  .  .  .".


BWAAHAAHAAAAHAAA

O'Donnell's allegations have been around for 27 years or so and can be found in O'Donnell's 1991 book "Trumped!".  They include quotes, anecdotes, and stories. A summary is below:

"Former employees of Donald Trump have also accused the real estate mogul of racism. John R. O’Donnell, a former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, wrote in his 1991 book Trumped! that Trump frequently used racial slurs:

A book written by one of Donald Trump’s former casino executives accuses Trump of calling his biggest gamblers “slobs,” of making racial slurs against black people and of being largely ignorant about the casino business.

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O’Donnell described a dinner conversation with Trump in which, he writes, they discussed Trump Plaza’s financial executive, who was black. He quoted Trump as saying he never liked the man and believed he was not doing a good job. Trump’s conversation is recounted:

“And isn’t it funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. . . . I think the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

Other examples when Trump has been accused of racism can be found in the link below.

https://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-racist-meme/
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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2018, 12:42:56 am »
"Snopes"?  On TBR?  Are you shitholing me? 
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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2018, 12:47:01 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 17, 2018, 12:42:56 am
"Snopes"?  On TBR?  Are you shitholing me?

The same Snopes that at different times had Obama being born at two different hospitals, yet never once acknowledged their own discrepancy.
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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2018, 12:52:03 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 17, 2018, 12:47:01 am
The same Snopes that at different times had Obama being born at two different hospitals, yet never once acknowledged their own discrepancy.

Snopes is two angry liberals on the left coast that can't even get along with each other.  I can't imagine a worse source for real analysis.
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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2018, 12:53:46 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 17, 2018, 12:52:03 am
Snopes is two angry liberals on the left coast that can't even get along with each other.  I can't imagine a worse source for real analysis.

I thought they were once married.    I guess love will always keep them liberal.
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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2018, 12:55:00 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 17, 2018, 12:42:56 am
"Snopes"?  On TBR?  Are you shitholing me?

It quoted the book, "Trumped!" which addressed Hoodat's questions about lack of quotes, anecdotes, and stories.  I don't think they (or I) misquoted the book.
 
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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2018, 12:57:22 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 17, 2018, 12:47:01 am
The same Snopes that at different times had Obama being born at two different hospitals, yet never once acknowledged their own discrepancy.

You weren't supposed to notice.  Their usual readers on the left sure as hell aren't bright enough to. 
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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2018, 01:07:33 am »
Quote from: Concerned on January 17, 2018, 12:55:00 am
It quoted the book, "Trumped!" which addressed Hoodat's questions about lack of quotes, anecdotes, and stories.  I don't think they (or I) misquoted the book.

So we're talking about an uncorroborated claim that was written in a book 17 years ago by a disgruntled employee as if this was present day proof that Trump is a racist?
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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2018, 01:12:45 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 17, 2018, 01:07:33 am
So we're talking about an uncorroborated claim that was written in a book 17 years ago by a disgruntled employee as if this was present day proof that Trump is a racist?

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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2018, 01:35:43 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 17, 2018, 01:07:33 am
So we're talking about an uncorroborated claim that was written in a book 17 years ago by a disgruntled employee as if this was present day proof that Trump is a racist?

In his 1991 book, O'Donnell reported on things he claimed he saw and heard while he was President of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino.  These included allegations of Trump's racism.  He's since been questioned about those details when the issue of Trump's potential racism were recently raised.  That's the entire subject of this entire thread.  About O'Donnell, you stated:  "No quotes.  No anecdotes.  No stories."  I provided the source of quotes, anecdotes, and stories:  his book "Trumped!"  Everyone is obviously free to attempt to discredit them, but they clearly exist.   :seeya:
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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2018, 02:10:23 am »
Quote from: Concerned on January 17, 2018, 01:35:43 am
About O'Donnell, you stated:  "No quotes.  No anecdotes.  No stories."

About O'Donnell's comments from the article, I stated "No quotes.  No anecdotes.  No stories."


Quote from: Concerned on January 17, 2018, 01:35:43 am
I provided the source of quotes, anecdotes, and stories:  his book "Trumped!"

His book "Trumped" was written 17 years ago.  This thread is based upon a report of a recent CNN interview - an interview given only as a follow-up to the narrative created by Dick Durbin's comments to the Washington Post.  The interview has nothing at all to do with labeling Trump a racist 17 years ago, but everything to do with labeling Trump a racist in 2018.

And in that regard, O'Donnell has nothing to offer.  Zero.  Zip.  Nada.

Everyone of course is free to attempt to slander President Trump as a present-day racist by interviewing a person who made uncorroborated claims against Trump 17 years ago, but any such present-day evidence clearly does not exist.




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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2018, 05:00:33 pm »
Totally irrelevant argument. Virtually everybody is biased i.e. racist in some manner. Even the people who claim they aren't. But actions speak louder than words.
 Al (diamond merchants) Sharpton accusing other people of being racist?  Excuse me while I have a huge laughing fit.
Then again, this is typical liberal virtue-signaling to try to show what wonderful people they are.
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Re: Former Trump executive: 'I do believe' Trump is a racist
« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2018, 05:12:26 pm »
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