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WHO’S CRAZY? TRUMP OR THE ANTI-TRUMP SHRINKS?
« on: January 09, 2018, 07:52:38 pm »

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Contributors included Tony Schwartz, a former New York Times reporter who had worked on the Art of the Deal with Trump. His mental health qualifications are unclear.  Also included is Gail Sheehy, a former New York Magazine writer, who had written a Hillary biography. The epilogue features Noam Chomsky, whom Lee describes as a “linguist and philosopher-historian”. Not to mention leftist genocide denier.

What makes Tony, Gail and Noam, mental health experts? In a movement that diagnoses the President of the United States over Twitter and then insists he be removed from office, that doesn’t really matter. And it’s why none of the media accounts have even bothered to note that some of Lee’s mental health experts are actually members of the media with no apparent mental health credentials.

In The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump, Tony Schwartz diagnoses Trump with a risky “sense of self-worth”. Gail Sheehy accuses him of “narcissism and paranoia” and a “trust deficit.”

In a book already dedicated to violating the professional ethics of the Goldwater Rule, Lee manages to include amateur armchair diagnoses by writers who are even more unqualified than her to make them.

But it’s not as if the professionals are any better.

Bandy X. Lee boasted, “In the book we have as authors Phil Zimbardo, Judith Herman, and Robert Jay Lifton, who are notable not only for their contributions to mental health but for their amazing ethical record. These are living legends who have also stood on the right side of history.”

Lifton is a “leading psychohistorian” who accuses President Trump of "malignant normality" and urges other "psychological professionals" to confront "the malignant normality of Trump and his administration." He appears to define “malignant normality” as behavior he disapproves of for political reasons, but that isn’t actually a form of mental illness. That undermines the whole theme of the book.

And it’s in the book’s foreword.

Philip Zimbardo and Rosemary Sword accuse Trump of being a “present hedonist.” And this is “based on Zimbardo’s time perspective theory.” Zimbardo is both the inventor of the theory and the guy writing about it. Rosemary doesn’t seem to have a degree, but as “part of her Hawaiian heritage, she was trained in the Hawaiian psychology based on forgiveness known as ho’oponopono.”

Ho’oponopono was derived from appeasing the Hawaiian gods. The Hawaiian gods must hate Trump.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/268951/whos-crazy-trump-or-anti-trump-shrinks-daniel-greenfield

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Re: WHO’S CRAZY? TRUMP OR THE ANTI-TRUMP SHRINKS?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2018, 09:16:54 pm »
"He can't be crazy! It must be everyone else who is! It's a conspiracy!"
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Re: WHO’S CRAZY? TRUMP OR THE ANTI-TRUMP SHRINKS?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2018, 09:32:11 pm »
Just playing the odds, I'd have to say it's the shrinks.

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Re: WHO’S CRAZY? TRUMP OR THE ANTI-TRUMP SHRINKS?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2018, 09:33:50 pm »
It isn't that "binary" choice thing again, is it?

Both statements could be false.
Both statements could be true.

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Re: WHO’S CRAZY? TRUMP OR THE ANTI-TRUMP SHRINKS?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 10:06:57 pm »
Just playing the odds, I'd have to say it's the shrinks.

One thing is for certain, It is all psychobabble.
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Re: WHO’S CRAZY? TRUMP OR THE ANTI-TRUMP SHRINKS?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2018, 11:12:57 pm »
Is Bandy X. Lee currently licensed to practice medicine?: http://www.psychsearch.net/bandy-lee/



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Re: WHO’S CRAZY? TRUMP OR THE ANTI-TRUMP SHRINKS?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2018, 12:05:33 am »
Is Bandy X. Lee currently licensed to practice medicine?: http://www.psychsearch.net/bandy-lee/
Judging by the comments of a few here, it's all Nazi/socialist quackery anyway.  *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: WHO’S CRAZY? TRUMP OR THE ANTI-TRUMP SHRINKS?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2018, 12:31:02 am »
Judging by the comments of a few here, it's all Nazi/socialist quackery anyway.  *****rollingeyes*****

Not sure who you're referring to, @jmyrlefuller, but here's what I was talking about:  https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199707/why-shrinks-have-problems?collection=10034