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53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« on: January 04, 2018, 05:37:21 pm »
On January 4, 1965, President Lyndon Baines Johnson gave his State of the Union Address in which he laid out a laundry list of legislation needed to achieve his plan for a “Great Society.”

Congress – eager to usurp as much power and exert as much control over the American people as possible — took up Johnson’s mantle and began violating its powers by enacting legislation covering civil rights, health care, education and environment. These are all areas over which the federal government has no authority under the Constitution.

Read more at: https://personalliberty.com/53-years-of-the-great-society-and-what-do-we-have/
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Re: 53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2018, 05:45:38 pm »
It goes to show you Never let a racist propose or sign laws designed to help any race to show he/she is not a racist.
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Re: 53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2018, 05:55:51 pm »
It goes to show you Never let a racist propose or sign laws designed to help any race to show he/she is not a racist.

LBJ made it very clear what his intentions were, through his words to the effect that "We'll have those (Nwords) voting Democrat for 200 years".
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Re: 53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2018, 06:04:57 pm »
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53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?

Our formerly Great Republic reduced to banana republic status, at least half the voting public complete economic illiterates and dependent on handouts for their livelihood, a federal government grossly overgrown and out of it's constitutional bounds for starters.
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Re: 53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2018, 06:24:40 pm »
LBJ made it very clear what his intentions were, through his words to the effect that "We'll have those (Nwords) voting Democrat for 200 years".

LBJ was an SOB. He was also so crooked he could  hid behind a corkscrew.
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Re: 53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2018, 12:04:07 am »
LBJ made it very clear what his intentions were, through his words to the effect that "We'll have those (Nwords) voting Democrat for 200 years".
In 1960 Richard Nixon only got 32% of the black vote. That was down from the 45% Eisenhower received in 1956. The numbers were already trending down, but Goldwater's (principled) refusal to support the 1964 CRs bill caused him to get only 6% of the black vote in 1964.
Doubtless, Goldwater would probably have lost anyway, but opposing the bill didn't help.
The question is: was Goldwater right to oppose it? Certainly, he was right to oppose a number of aspects of the bill. The senators who sneered at the idea the bill would lead to quotas and AA programs should have been thumped.
I don't think any principled conservative believes all Americans shouldn't have the same rights as other Americans. What conservatives don't like is the idea of certain groups having special rights.
Now is the time to oppose all the unconstitutional provisions of the bill. No more special i.e. unconstitutional allowances for certain groups.

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Re: 53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2018, 01:49:23 am »
American liberalism was at high tide under President Johnson.

    The Wilderness Protection Act saved 9.1 million acres of forestland from industrial development.

    The Elementary and Secondary Education Act provided major funding for American public schools.

    The Voting Rights Act banned literacy tests and other discriminatory methods of denying suffrage to African Americans.

    Medicare was created to offset the costs of health care for the nation's elderly.

    The National Endowment for the Arts and Humanities used public money to fund artists and galleries.

    The Immigration Act ended discriminatory quotas based on ethnic origin.

    An Omnibus Housing Act provided funds to construct low-income housing.

    Congress tightened pollution controls with stronger Air and Water Quality Acts.

    Standards were raised for safety in consumer products.



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Re: 53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2018, 01:55:36 am »
American liberalism was at high tide under President Johnson.

    The Wilderness Protection Act saved 9.1 million acres of forestland from industrial development.

    The Elementary and Secondary Education Act provided major funding for American public schools.

    The Voting Rights Act banned literacy tests and other discriminatory methods of denying suffrage to African Americans.

    Medicare was created to offset the costs of health care for the nation's elderly.

    The National Endowment for the Arts and Humanities used public money to fund artists and galleries.

    The Immigration Act ended discriminatory quotas based on ethnic origin.

    An Omnibus Housing Act provided funds to construct low-income housing.

    Congress tightened pollution controls with stronger Air and Water Quality Acts.

    Standards were raised for safety in consumer products.

Just damn. Look at what all of those acts snowballed into  **nononono*
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2018, 01:59:05 am »
Just damn. Look at what all of those acts snowballed into  **nononono*

Liberals can never let a good thing be uncorupted.  It is their nature. They can't help it.
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Re: 53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2018, 02:16:30 am »
American liberalism was at high tide under President Johnson.

    The Wilderness Protection Act saved 9.1 million acres of forestland from industrial development.

    The Elementary and Secondary Education Act provided major funding for American public schools.

    The Voting Rights Act banned literacy tests and other discriminatory methods of denying suffrage to African Americans.

    Medicare was created to offset the costs of health care for the nation's elderly.

    The National Endowment for the Arts and Humanities used public money to fund artists and galleries.

    The Immigration Act ended discriminatory quotas based on ethnic origin.

    An Omnibus Housing Act provided funds to construct low-income housing.

    Congress tightened pollution controls with stronger Air and Water Quality Acts.

    Standards were raised for safety in consumer products.

And Nixon pretty much continued the liberalism.

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Re: 53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2018, 02:41:09 am »
Liberals can never let a good thing be uncorupted.  It is their nature. They can't help it.

So many of my relatives voted for back door socialism, yet they question me for voting for Cruz over (Lord) Trump. I could not go to sleep at night knowing that I saddled my babies (9, 6, and 4), with what they voted for on steroids.
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Re: 53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2018, 03:50:18 am »
da goat wrote:
"The question is: was Goldwater right to oppose it?"

Of course he was right.

The Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act are two of the most destructive laws ever passed by the U.S. Congress.

They are largely responsible for the degraded state of race relations in the country today.

Blacks -- and us -- would have been far better off without them.

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Re: 53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2018, 04:30:44 am »
A record-breaking amount of Poverty,crime,and ignorance?

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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2018, 04:33:17 am »

Now is the time to oppose all the unconstitutional provisions of the bill. No more special i.e. unconstitutional allowances for certain groups.

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Try to remove what is now considered to be an "Entitlement" and there will be riots and killing in the streets.
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2018, 04:35:48 am »

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Re: 53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2018, 04:38:19 am »
da goat wrote:


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The Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act are two of the most destructive laws ever passed by the U.S. Congress.

@Fishrrman

As well as being two of the biggest misnamed acts. I have always referred to them as "The Civil WRONGS Act" and the "Voting WRONGS Act".
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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2018, 08:54:35 am »
@goatprairie

Try to remove what is now considered to be an "Entitlement" and there will be riots and killing in the streets.
There are already riots and killings in the streets. At some point black Americans and other "minorities" have to be told they're not privileged.  Time to do away with unconstitutional acts and attempt to treat all Americans equally.

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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2018, 12:50:10 pm »
@goatprairie

Try to remove what is now considered to be an "Entitlement" and there will be riots and killing in the streets.

 And that’s why there is the reluctance to cut the budget. No matter what you cut somebody’s gonna “riot in the streets”

 But you can’t defeat economics and mathematics.  And the cuts are going to have to come.

The Great Society is another example of good intentions versus actual results.
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Re: 53 years of the Great Society and what do we have?
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2018, 02:24:22 pm »
There are already riots and killings in the streets. At some point black Americans and other "minorities" have to be told they're not privileged.  Time to do away with unconstitutional acts and attempt to treat all Americans equally.
in the cities, they are not a 'minority'.

Giving them that moniker also has to stop.
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2018, 03:04:47 pm »
in the cities, they are not a 'minority'.

Giving them that moniker also has to stop.
Agree. Whites are only one third the population of NYC. Maybe they should file for minority status.  :whistle:

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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2018, 03:42:31 pm »
And that’s why there is the reluctance to cut the budget. No matter what you cut somebody’s gonna “riot in the streets”

 But you can’t defeat economics and mathematics.  And the cuts are going to have to come.

The Great Society is another example of good intentions versus actual results.

Except that in the case of the "Great Society" programs there never were any "good intentions"  unless you count  "having those Ni$$35s voting for democrats for the next 200 years" as a "good" intention.

Otherwise you are entirely correct. The laws of economics are immutable on such things and the end is inevitable one way or another.
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2018, 10:24:15 pm »
in the cities, they are not a 'minority'.

Giving them that moniker also has to stop.

If a city of color elects a mayor and/or majority city council of that same color, you lose your minority status.  You automatically assume your rightful place in the realm of the 3rd world.
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2018, 11:02:17 pm »
LBJ was an SOB. He was also so crooked he could  hid behind a corkscrew.

Yep, he won his first senate race via fraud.

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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2018, 01:58:09 pm »
Yep, he won his first senate race via fraud.
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