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Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« on: January 01, 2018, 04:36:29 pm »
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Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday that the United States has “foolishly” handed Pakistan more than $33 billion in aid over the last 15 years while getting nothing in return and pledged to put a stop to it.

“They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more!” Trump wrote on Twitter. “The United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years, and they have given us nothing but lies & deceit, thinking of our leaders as fools.”

It was not immediately clear what prompted Trump’s criticism of Pakistan but he has long complained that Islamabad is not doing enough to tackle Islamist militants.

Continued at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-pakistan/trump-says-u-s-has-gotten-nothing-from-pakistan-aid-idUSKBN1EQ112
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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2018, 05:03:23 pm »
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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2018, 05:04:23 pm »
Hamdullah Mohib, Afghanistan’s ambassador in Washington, said in a Twitter posting on Monday that Trump’s tweet was a “promising message to Afghans who have suffered at the hands of terrorists based in Pakistan for far too long.”

There are too many terrorists based in Pakistan that hit targets in Afghanistan and then run back over the border to safety. The powers that were at the time wouldn't let our military pursue Bin Laden into Pakistan when they were hot on his tail. Way back at the start. And then it takes a stealth incursion, or invasion, to finally go get him.

She asked me name my foe then. I said the need within some men to fight and kill their brothers without thought of Love or God. Ken Hensley

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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2018, 05:06:24 pm »
Hamdullah Mohib, Afghanistan’s ambassador in Washington, said in a Twitter posting on Monday that Trump’s tweet was a “promising message to Afghans who have suffered at the hands of terrorists based in Pakistan for far too long.”

There are too many terrorists based in Pakistan that hit targets in Afghanistan and then run back over the border to safety. The powers that were at the time wouldn't let our military pursue Bin Laden into Pakistan when they were hot on his tail. Way back at the start. And then it takes a stealth incursion, or invasion, to finally go get him.

Haqqani network: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haqqani_network

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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2018, 05:13:41 pm »
The only thing we ever got from them was use of their base for U-2 flights.  Not worth it.
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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2018, 05:21:12 pm »
Haqqani network: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haqqani_network

Thanks for that.

From the article: It said U.S. officials had sought but been denied access to a member of the Taliban-linked Haqqani network captured in Pakistan who potentially could provide information about at least one American hostage.

I think one of the major problems is the Haqqani are so deeply embedded in Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI)-if that is their current designation, that they are completely untrustworthy.
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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2018, 05:34:07 pm »
Former President Obama (how enjoyable it remains, a year later, to be able to use that adjective) preferred Pakistan to India, just as he preferred Turkey to Greece and well, just about any Arab country to Israel.

And all for the same reason.
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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2018, 05:37:34 pm »
Former President Obama (how enjoyable it remains, a year later, to be able to use that adjective) preferred Pakistan to India, just as he preferred Turkey to Greece and well, just about any Arab country to Israel.

And all for the same reason.


The US position on Pakistan and Turkey has been overly friendly since the Cold War, due to their proximity to the USSR.
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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2018, 06:25:58 pm »
Good on Mr. Trump.
Cut that place off.
Not a dollar more.

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A country which the entire world would be better off... without.

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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2018, 06:42:15 pm »
Trump is threatening to cut aid.

At least its on the table and Trump is trying to influence Pakistan.

But right now, aid hasn't been cut.

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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2018, 06:58:54 pm »
I sense a disturbance in the farce and the Libs clutching their pearls waiting to respond.

Lol!  A disturbance in the farce.  Love it!
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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2018, 10:48:14 pm »
Hamdullah Mohib, Afghanistan’s ambassador in Washington, said in a Twitter posting on Monday that Trump’s tweet was a “promising message to Afghans who have suffered at the hands of terrorists based in Pakistan for far too long.”

There are too many terrorists based in Pakistan that hit targets in Afghanistan and then run back over the border to safety. The powers that were at the time wouldn't let our military pursue Bin Laden into Pakistan when they were hot on his tail. Way back at the start. And then it takes a stealth incursion, or invasion, to finally go get him.
When Bush said these words after 911 "We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them."  he said them only for the 911 terrorists, not for terrorists elsewhere.

Trump is saying this doctrine applies to ALL terrorists.
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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2018, 11:04:32 pm »
When Bush said these words after 911 "We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them."  he said them only for the 911 terrorists, not for terrorists elsewhere.

Trump is saying this doctrine applies to ALL terrorists.


Bush also said you're either with us or with the terrorists.  They've demonstrated on multiple occasions where they stand.
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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2018, 12:29:51 am »

The US position on Pakistan and Turkey has been overly friendly since the Cold War, due to their proximity to the USSR.

There are those who seem to want our enemies to expand their territory to include Turkey and Pakistan.
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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2018, 01:12:51 am »
There are those who seem to want our enemies to expand their territory to include Turkey and Pakistan.
India would be the natural conqueror of Pakistan and they are not our enemy.  China and Russia do not figure into the equation.
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Re: Trump says U.S. has gotten 'nothing' from Pakistan aid
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2018, 01:27:07 am »
I believe Trump's strategy just might be aligning with India to counter China as well as containing the Pakistan terrorism threat.

INDIA JUST CALLED PAKISTAN ‘TERRORISTAN’ AT THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY

http://www.newsweek.com/india-and-pakistan-kashmir-terrorism-669327
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