'It's a rape song': Woman threatens to pull out of her choir's Christmas concert

[Wingnut]

By Latoya Gayle For Mailonline

Published: 03:41 EST, 22 December 2017 | Updated: 04:23 EST, 22 December 2017

   
A mother sparked an online debate when she questioned whether the song Baby It's Cold Outside was appropriate to sing at a Christmas choir concert.   

Writing on Mumsnet, the woman explained she wanted to pull out of the performance because the lyrics of the song made her feel uncomfortable.

While some users agreed the lyrics could be interpreted as being 'rapey', others said the woman was overreacting. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5167633/Is-Baby-Cold-Outside-song-rape.html

[Right_in_Virginia]

If it was a rape song, he wouldn't be begging.   

[RoosGirl]

"Say, what's in this drink?"

Yep, totally a rape song.   

[mountaineer]

She ought to be complaining that the song has nothing to do with Christmas. 

[Sanguine]

She ought to be complaining that the song has nothing to do with Christmas. 

 

[Silver Pines]

So pull out and get lost already.

[240B]

"Say, what's in this drink?"

Yep, totally a rape song.   

She's right. It is not directly about full on rape, like some 'rap' songs are, but it is a 'rapey' kind of song. He seems to be trying to force her to stay until she passes out from the rufee he spiked her drink with.


That song always kind of creeped me out, since I was a teenager.


Based on what the song is about (SEX) and the way he is trying to get it, the song certainly doesn't belong in Church.

[skeeter]

Yes its a rape song.

They should totally ban it, along with Santa Baby, which is also a rape song.

[mountaineer]

Most of the "Christmas" songs currently playing on the radio are about the weather and Santa Claus, and have nothing to do with Christmas. This is one of them. It's a seasonal, wintertime song, that's all. The weather is cold, the snow is falling. The article doesn't say this was for a church concert. Obviously, this song is no more appropriate to a church concert than "Frosty the Snowman."

The woman might have limited the discussion to she and the choir director, though, and not made it a topic for an online discussion board.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Yes its a rape song.

They should totally ban it, along with Santa Baby, which is also a rape song.

If I've not told you before @skeeter , I'll tell you now ...  I do love your style.   

Merry Christmas!   

[RoosGirl]

I really can't stay (but baby, it's cold outside)
I've got to go away (but baby, it's cold outside)
This evening has been (been hoping that you'd drop in)
So very nice (i'll hold your hands, they're just like ice)
My mother will start to worry (beautiful what's your hurry?)
My father will be pacing the floor (listen to the fireplace roar)
So really I'd better scurry (beautiful please don't hurry)
But maybe just a half a drink more (put some records on while I pour)
The neighbors might think (baby, it's bad out there)
Say what's in this drink? (no cabs to be had out there)
I wish I knew how (your eyes are like starlight now)
To break this spell (i'll take your hat, your hair looks swell)
I ought to say, no, no, no sir (mind if I move in closer?)
At least I'm gonna say that I tried (what's the sense in hurtin' my pride?)
I really can't stay (oh baby don't hold out)
But baby, it's cold outside
I simply must go (but baby, it's cold outside)
The answer is no (but baby, it's cold outside)
Your welcome has been(how lucky that you dropped in)
So nice and warm (look out the window at this dawn)
My sister will be suspicious (gosh your lips look delicious)
My brother will be there at the door (waves upon the tropical shore)
My maiden aunts mind is vicious (gosh your lips are delicious)
But maybe just a cigarette more (never such a blizzard before)
I've gotta get home(but baby, you'd freeze out there)
Say lend me a coat(it's up to your knees out there)
You've really been grand (i thrill when you touch my hand)
But don't you see? (how can you do this thing to me?)
There's bound to be talk tomorrow (think of my lifelong sorrow)
At least there will be plenty implied (if you got pnuemonia and died)
I really can't stay (get over that old out)
Baby, it's cold
Baby, it's cold outside

Songwriters: Frank Wildhorn
Baby, It's Cold Outside lyrics © Warner/Chappell Music, Inc

[skeeter]

If I've not told you before @skeeter , I'll tell you now ...  I do love your style.   

Merry Christmas!   

Hope you and your's have a wonderful Christmas, as well.

[Silver Pines]

I really can't stay (but baby, it's cold outside)
I've got to go away (but baby, it's cold outside)
This evening has been (been hoping that you'd drop in)
So very nice (i'll hold your hands, they're just like ice)
My mother will start to worry (beautiful what's your hurry?)
My father will be pacing the floor (listen to the fireplace roar)
So really I'd better scurry (beautiful please don't hurry)
But maybe just a half a drink more (put some records on while I pour)
The neighbors might think (baby, it's bad out there)
Say what's in this drink? (no cabs to be had out there)
I wish I knew how (your eyes are like starlight now)
To break this spell (i'll take your hat, your hair looks swell)
I ought to say, no, no, no sir (mind if I move in closer?)
At least I'm gonna say that I tried (what's the sense in hurtin' my pride?)
I really can't stay (oh baby don't hold out)
But baby, it's cold outside
I simply must go (but baby, it's cold outside)
The answer is no (but baby, it's cold outside)
Your welcome has been(how lucky that you dropped in)
So nice and warm (look out the window at this dawn)
My sister will be suspicious (gosh your lips look delicious)
My brother will be there at the door (waves upon the tropical shore)
My maiden aunts mind is vicious (gosh your lips are delicious)
But maybe just a cigarette more (never such a blizzard before)
I've gotta get home(but baby, you'd freeze out there)
Say lend me a coat(it's up to your knees out there)
You've really been grand (i thrill when you touch my hand)
But don't you see? (how can you do this thing to me?)
There's bound to be talk tomorrow (think of my lifelong sorrow)
At least there will be plenty implied (if you got pnuemonia and died)
I really can't stay (get over that old out)
Baby, it's cold
Baby, it's cold outside

Songwriters: Frank Wildhorn
Baby, It's Cold Outside lyrics © Warner/Chappell Music, Inc

Everybody knows the chick ended up leaving.

[RoosGirl]

Everybody knows the chick ended up leaving.

Of course she did, but apparently it was with busted lip and ripped dress.

[240B]

Santa Baby is not really about rape as it is about prostitution.


The whole song is a Sugar Daddy's paramour, (sometimes called a 'kept woman'), listing what she wants as payment or reward for being a 'good girl' to him.


But yeah. Like 'It's cold outside' the song has little to do with Christmas and a lot to do with sex.

[andy58-in-nh]

Right. And "White Christmas" is obviously a racist ditty. 

[240B]

You'll like this. We are not the only ones who noticed the theme of the song. Funny stuff.

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[musiclady]

She ought to be complaining that the song has nothing to do with Christmas. 

This.

[skeeter]

Santa Baby is not really about rape as it is about prostitution.

I'll buy that. Lets ban it anyway.

[musiclady]

Baby it's Cold Outside has nothing to do with rape.


Some people just have filthy minds.   

[Sanguine]

Baby it's Cold Outside has nothing to do with rape.


Some people just have filthy minds.   

Well, now, that not quite true.  Seduction and rape are now synonymous, so if 2=5, then 2+5=4.  Simple.   

[musiclady]

Well, now, that not quite true.  Seduction and rape are now synonymous, so if 2=5, then 2+5=4.  Simple.   

I stand corrected.

Wanting to kiss a woman during a snowstorm is the same as raping her.


Thanks for helping me out on this one.....

[Sanguine]

I stand corrected.

Wanting to kiss a woman during a snowstorm is the same as raping her.


Thanks for helping me out on this one.....

 

[Silver Pines]

Of course she did, but apparently it was with busted lip and ripped dress.

@RoosGirl


🎶  I wish you’d stand still for me to punch you

You want it (bleep), you know that you do.  🎶

[RoosGirl]

@RoosGirl


🎶  I wish you’d stand still for me to punch you

You want it (bleep), you know that you do.  🎶

@CatherineofAragon

That's getting a little personal, don't you think?   ^-^