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Once again, I will ask for "REAL" proof. There isn't any. All you and half of everyone else on this thread has shown is they could care less and if Justice Thomas came up again before the congressional hearings again, that he would be thrown under the bus. Anita Hill still makes her rounds playing the fake victim, because there was no way to prove one way or the other what she claimed was fiction or fact. That is what allegations for 30 or 40 years ago achieve, nothing but ruining the name of the accused. If you do sue, you are right, you go under oath for nothing except to make yourself a center of a circus.
 

This crap of well he didn't do this or that proves nothing, except some would rather quote WP reporters than look at the motivations to lies behind them.

You and I both know, the women that made the claims will disappear. The lawyers that represented them will slip them some money under the table (and throw in a couple more media events with travel and board) and nothing more will be said.

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Yes, Anita Hill and Thomas Clarence happened thirty years ago so all accusations against people with Rs after their names should be dismissed.

Now that the election is over,  what exactly do you expect Moore’s accusers to do?  Run for office?  Audition for movies?   Keep in mind they were sought out by the WP; they didn’t go looking to tell their stories.  One of them spoke after the election and said she felt vindicated by its outcome.   What should the women do next?

On the other hand, we have Moore, who repeatedly said he would bring lawsuits.  Why haven’t we heard anything about his progress?

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Oh, FFS, Now he's "guilty" because he hasn't sued?
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IOWs you still got NOTHING, never did, never will. Just like I said.


Well, there are the hearty laughs and Christmas cheer generated by your wailing and tooth gnashing over this loser.


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Well, there are the hearty laughs and Christmas cheer generated by your wailing and tooth gnashing over this loser.


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Loser? Alabama got Jones. The whole effing state lost, imho.
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Well, there are the hearty laughs and Christmas cheer generated by your wailing and tooth gnashing over this loser.

You are now know to me as "Rather Epic".... Mr. Fake but Accurate...

@Sighlass

Yes, Anita Hill and Thomas Clarence happened thirty years ago so all accusations against people with Rs after their names should be dismissed.

Now that the election is over,  what exactly do you expect Moore’s accusers to do?  Run for office?  Audition for movies?   Keep in mind they were sought out by the WP; they didn’t go looking to tell their stories.  One of them spoke after the election and said she felt vindicated by its outcome.   What should the women do next?

On the other hand, we have Moore, who repeatedly said he would bring lawsuits.  Why haven’t we heard anything about his progress?



Don't put words in my mouth. I never said all allegations are to be dismissed. I said give me ONE piece of REAL proof. Now you and "Rather Dan Epic" have just one defense. Roy hasn't sued, so he must be guilty.

Lord I pray I never get a few of yall in a jury box if I am falsely convicted.
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Loser? Alabama got Jones. The whole effing state lost, imho.


Only temporarily.  Jones will be replaced in two years. 

McCain will either be absent or get replaced in the next session.  They still hold the majority and a marginally more reliable one without him.  In the meantime, they can do vetting and fundraising for their 2020 candidate - possibly Brooks, if his treatment goes well.
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Only temporarily.  Jones will be replaced in two years. 

McCain will either be absent or get replaced in the next session.  They still hold the majority and a marginally more reliable one without him.  In the meantime, they can do vetting and fundraising for their 2020 candidate - possibly Brooks, if his treatment goes well.
A majority? Meh. There will be Collins, Graham, and Murkowski to vote with the Democrats, just as they have in the past. The uniparty scam has been preserved from the presence of someone who was a serious threat--a guy who was highly likely to pull the lid off that kettle of worms. Y'all aren't draining  the swamp if the pond scum is rising with the water level.
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A majority? Meh. There will be Collins, Graham, and Murkowski to vote with the Democrats, just as they have in the past. The uniparty scam has been preserved from the presence of someone who was a serious threat--a guy who was highly likely to pull the lid off that kettle of worms. Y'all aren't draining  the swamp if the pond scum is rising with the water level.


Moore wasn’t anyone’s first choice, so you can really stop with the Joan of Arc-ing of him.
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Moore wasn’t anyone’s first choice, so you can really stop with the Joan of Arc-ing of him.
You are one of the mob with the torches, all hot to burn the man at the stake.

So who was first choice? Strange? That's why he won the nomination, right? Oh, he didn't, did he? Apparently the people of AL had no say. But the whole Democrat, GOPe, Media, Gloria effing Allred even dog and pony show couldn't scream for Jones loud enough--because there would be no changing the ballots--but they could relentlessly smear Moore. I'd even bet the effort was coordinated between the Dems and The Pubbies.
The uniparty will prevail.

Pull your head out. They (GOPe) didn't want Moore because he'd spell out what is going on in DC and in ways even you could understand. Of course McConnel didn't want him there, the GOP didn't want him there, he'd blow the whistle on the lot of them--and the whole damned scam. He'd lower the water level in the swamp.

Why else such blatant character assassination, from every direction, over shaky and questionable accounts of something alleged to have happened when the Atari 2600 was the state of the art video game, Elvis reached room temperature, and Saturday Night Fever and the original Star Wars premiered?

Recall what 'orders' Moore defied? Like the District Court Judge's that held the State had to issue same-sex marriage licenses (Against the Alabama Constitution, but not directed toward the right people, so Moore told his judges to comply with the AL Constitution)? Guess what? Doug Jones son is a homosexual. Surprise, surprise, you have joined the homomafia. Maybe for just a couple of years. Maybe they'll bake you a cake.

You seem to think that having a pro abortion, pro gay agenda, dyed in the wool Democrat in that seat is preferable to someone so clearly accused solely for the purpose of causing him to lose the election, and done with the most obviously forged bullshit....

But--WINNING! Right?
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You seem to think that having a pro abortion, pro gay agenda, dyed in the wool Democrat in that seat is preferable to someone so clearly accused solely for the purpose of causing him to lose the election, and done with the most obviously forged bullshit....


You seem to think that multi-paragraph screeds make you sound intelligent - you’re wrong.

Brooks was the first choice of Bannon & Co.  Strange was the first choice of the establishment and the President. [/i] None of the candidates received more than 50% in the primary, hence the runoff.

So, as I said previously and accurately, Moore was nobody’s first choice.
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So, as I said previously and accurately, Moore was nobody’s first choice.

Well, with the exception of the Primary voters of AL, but they don't count for much these days.
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You seem to think that multi-paragraph screeds make you sound intelligent - you’re wrong.

Brooks was the first choice of Bannon & Co.  Strange was the first choice of the establishment and the President. [/i] None of the candidates received more than 50% in the primary, hence the runoff.

So, as I said previously and accurately, Moore was nobody’s first choice.

Total BS!  As I recall Moore got the most votes in the primary first time around and that makes him the first choice of a lot of Alabama voters.

But you and and the establishment in Washington were determined to undercut Moore and got Jones elected.  YOU must be so proud!
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Well, with the exception of the Primary voters of AL, but they don't count for much these days.

If he had been the voters’ first choice, there wouldn’t have been a runoff.   I’m referring to the electorate, as a whole, and not as individuals.  It’s the same principle as saying the house and the senate passed tax reform.
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Well, with the exception of the Primary voters of AL, but they don't count for much these days.
Well, they* wanted a Swamp Thing in Washington, and Moore just didn't qualify.

*Democrats, GOPe Republicans, homosexuals of both parties, Jesus-hating, abortion-loving, crooks.

They got what they wanted. McConnell helped, tremendously, and doubtless was a factor in pulling National GOP funding, which is why Jones could outspend Moore 14 to 1.

Despite that funding difference, despite the campaign against Moore from all sides, he was within 22,000 votes of Jones--the write-ins would have made the difference had they been for Moore.

That's a far cry from not being wanted, and under the circumstances with a weeks long media barrage against him, says that enough Alabamans wanted him for him to make a good showing.  This was a squeaker, not a landslide.
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If he had been the voters’ first choice, there wouldn’t have been a runoff.   I’m referring to the electorate, as a whole, and not as individuals.  It’s the same principle as saying the house and the senate passed tax reform.

You said he was no one's first choice.  That was a blatant lie.   BYE BYE!
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You seem to think that multi-paragraph screeds make you sound intelligent - you’re wrong.

Brooks was the first choice of Bannon & Co.  Strange was the first choice of the establishment and the President. [/i] None of the candidates received more than 50% in the primary, hence the runoff.

So, as I said previously and accurately, Moore was nobody’s first choice.
Actually, i like to explain myself. I hope your lips didn't get tired reading all that.
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If he had been the voters’ first choice, there wouldn’t have been a runoff.   I’m referring to the electorate, as a whole, and not as individuals.  It’s the same principle as saying the house and the senate passed tax reform.

That's a good argument to brush off what the Republican people of AL wanted.  Wouldn't it be more honest to just cancel the primaries and let the Party pick the candidate at the State Convention?  I think Utah does that.
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That's a good argument to brush off what the Republican people of AL wanted.  Wouldn't it be more honest to just cancel the primaries and let the Party pick the candidate at the State Convention?  I think Utah does that.

It seems pretty obvious what the Republican voters of AL wanted and it wasn’t Roy Moore. If it had been, half of the ones that came out to vote for Trump would not have stayed home for Moore.  But I suppose all 650K of them were establishment swamp creatures duped by the lying media.
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Once again, I will ask for "REAL" proof. There isn't any. All you and half of everyone else on this thread has shown is they could care less and if Justice Thomas came up again before the congressional hearings again, that he would be thrown under the bus. Anita Hill still makes her rounds playing the fake victim, because there was no way to prove one way or the other what she claimed was fiction or fact. That is what allegations for 30 or 40 years ago achieve, nothing but ruining the name of the accused. If you do sue, you are right, you go under oath for nothing except to make yourself a center of a circus.
 

This crap of well he didn't do this or that proves nothing, except some would rather quote WP reporters than look at the motivations to lies behind them.

You and I both know, the women that made the claims will disappear. The lawyers that represented them will slip them some money under the table (and throw in a couple more media events with travel and board) and nothing more will be said.

I agree.

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It seems pretty obvious what the Republican voters of AL wanted and it wasn’t Roy Moore. If it had been, half of the ones that came out to vote for Trump would not have stayed home for Moore.  But I suppose all 650K of them were establishment swamp creatures duped by the lying media.

But then.... we will never know now, will we....

what the voters would have done had the cretins not successfully Herman Cained him.

So no, it's not anywhere near "obvious" re: what would have happened sans unproven allegations and accusations against him.
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It seems pretty obvious what the Republican voters of AL wanted and it wasn’t Roy Moore. If it had been, half of the ones that came out to vote for Trump would not have stayed home for Moore.  But I suppose all 650K of them were establishment swamp creatures duped by the lying media.

Either honor what the Primary voters decide, or find another way to pick the candidate.  It's a binary choice, pick one.

No matter how clever you are in slicing and dicing, Moore won the primary that mattered, so it's a flight of fancy to say he wasn't the pick of the party. 
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Keep in mind they were sought out by the WP; they didn’t go looking to tell their stories. 

How does one know that they were sought out by the W.P.? Because the Washington Post and they said it was so? Why would they say that, other than to try and add some credence to the stories (like claiming to have voted for Trump which was proven to be a lie).... One fellow claimed Roy was "banned" at the Mall and said "I don't have an axe to grind against Roy Moore"... His FB page of course showed that to be a lie (now private) and his wife's FB page is still up with him commenting still proving it was a lie.

Quote I used comes from 2 minutes in video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNIGUgmKGSk

FaceBook link of his Greg's wife (or ex wife, or just live in lover now?) with him commenting recently. You can follow her FB page link to her blog and see what she thought of her husband at one time. Why she has a Maiden last name, but not why they are living together again (after a house fire a year or so ago). There is a go fund me page. They have special needs kids and thus I guess why she claims to be a "Political Activist" and more ..... nevermind it is complicated.

https://www.facebook.com/joanne.obar

I haven't found an accuser that wasn't somehow linked to the democratic party. The Main accuser Leigh Corfman (Facebook page is private) was friends with Betsy Davis. Betsy Davis (now lives in CA) did an on camera defense of Leigh Corfman and said she was telling the truth. Now this Betsy has a FB page too (and it is still up). Betsy is married to a movie producer and Hollywood insider with lots of gay friends that hate Roy Moore. Betsy is also good friends with the head of the local Gadsden democratic party (servers as chair). Now just being "friends" on FB means little, but when I say friends, I mean actually post to each other on FB.

Betsy link below...

https://www.facebook.com/BRDavis72

Betsy's liberal husband with lots of gay friends from New York to LA...

https://www.facebook.com/charlie.davis.524934/friends?lst=100010605127608%3A750063938%3A1513028311&hc_location=ufi

Ann Green's FB page... Chair, Etowah County Democratic Executive Committee

https://www.facebook.com/ann.green.7946?hc_location=ufi

Now that we established that newspapers will try to add things to make their stories more believable (Remember it was the W.P. that ran an article that had a handwritting expert say the yearbook inscription looked like it was written by ONE and only one person). How do we know that the W.P. reported just happened upon these amazing stories? We know one of the main accurser's actually previously went to a lawyer that worked for the state of Alabama democratic party. This was PRIOR to the November 9th story released by the W.P. ... PRIOR... Eddie Sexton, represented Corfman.

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AL.com’s article begins:

An attorney for Leigh Corfman, whose story of a sexual encounter with Roy Moore when he was 32 and she was 14, broke today, said Corfman stands by her story.

Hoover attorney Eddie Sexton told AL.com that Corfman has wanted to publicly talk about the time in 1979 when Moore dated her, but never felt like it was the right time.

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Eddie Sexton works for Gentle Turner Sexton & Harbison LLC... Owned by guess who? Edgar Gentle (otherwise known as Treasurer for the Alabama Democrat Party)

Why did she drop Sexton right at story break or right before it broke? Well perhaps he was just a liaison broker until a  bigger Hollywood lady lawyer took over. One that had a better record of getting bigger paychecks (or methods of hiding it better). But probable because Edgar Gentle didn't want the link known of his position and involvement in this. Good way to make dead ends, except that Al(dot)com made a mistake and included the lawyer name as a source.

Anyway, not buying the "W.P. searched them out" thing. Of course getting these ex-representives to go in detail of time lines is not likely to happen. Just saying I wish I was a fly on the wall in some of those liberal lawyer meetings with a Alabama Political officer holder as owner.





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It seems pretty obvious what the Republican voters of AL wanted and it wasn’t Roy Moore. If it had been, half of the ones that came out to vote for Trump would not have stayed home for Moore.  But I suppose all 650K of them were establishment swamp creatures duped by the lying media.

Yet more BS from you!  This was a special election to fill a Senate seat.  Not a presidential election. 
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Bannon deserves to be mocked.

Bannon's scorched earth approach has the potential to be trouble for the GOP Senate majority in the midterms.   In Wisconsin, he's actively working against a smart, quality candidate named Leah Vukmir who is poised to take the seat from one of the most feckless and vulnerable Senate RAT incumbents in 2018 (Tammy Baldwin).   Kevin Nicholson - Bannon's protege - is a good man but he's a political neophyte who doesn't have the experience or contacts to run a Senatorial campaign in 2017 where the spending is going to be in the eight figure range.  The Trump MAGA agenda cannot survive if the GOP starts running people like Todd Akin, Sharon Angle etc. this next November.

Bannon's successful promotion of Moore in the primaries was a pyrrhic victory.   No other GOP candidate but the fatally flawed Moore would have lost to a Leftist jabroni like Doug Jones in Alabama.   

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Yet more BS from you!  This was a special election to fill a Senate seat.  Not a presidential election.

Yes and it received so much national coverage, it was on another level.  There’s no excuse for a candidate in a state where there’s a 2-1 voter advantage to lose, even in a special election.  You can directly attribute that lack of enthusiasm him – both locally and nationally – to a terrible candidate. The president arrived late to the game and would not even go to the state itself to endorse him.  He stayed across the line in Pensacola.  Moore sucked and even the people at Breitbart now say so.

Yet, somehow, the rest of us are wrong and just can’t get the wisdom of you – a person with the screen name denoting a large man who whinges about everything like a little girl.
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