Michael Savage: Should There Be a Statute of Limitations for Sexual Harassment Claims?

[TomSea]

Should There Be a Statute of Limitations for Sexual Harassment Claims?
By Michael Savage

Triggered by the recent allegations against Dustin Hoffman reported by Variety, I questioned listeners whether or not there should be a statute of limitations for sexual assault cases.

The point is that the iconic actor Dustin Hoffman is absolutely vilified. Maybe rightly so, but I'm asking another question, which is how far back do you want to go?

Do you want to disinter George Washington? Perhaps he talked dirty to someone in his time. You have to understand that we're living through a cultural madness, a mass hysteria. As the Nobel Laureate James Watson, discoverer of DNA, said, “If you can't be criticized, that's very dangerous. You lose the concept of a free society.”

Continued at: https://www.newsmax.com/michaelsavage/sexual-harassment-misconduct-statute-of-limitations/2017/12/18/id/832334/

[Sanguine]

There is a statute of limitations for sexual harassment claims.  What the hell is he talking about - limiting the First Amendment?

[driftdiver]

No there shouldn't, I'd really like Elizabeth Hurley to explain her behavior to me that one time.   I'm still traumatized. 

[Cyber Liberty]

There is a statute of limitations for sexual harassment claims.  What the hell is he talking about - limiting the First Amendment?

The First Amendment doesn't exempt Slander or Libel.  At what point does an ancient accusation of harassment become subject to those same limitations?  I think that's the point of the article.

[truth_seeker]

I had an interesting discussion with my spinster never married 58 year old liberal sister, night before last.

She criticized our father, who was a jovial outgoing fellow. She said he was guilty of putting his arm around waitresses.

I told her that was just the way people were, back then. My sister said our mother didn't like it though.

Our parents remained together until his death months before their 50th anniversary.

We are going through an introspective time, whereby "the way the world was/is" is competing with "the way it ought to be" and I doubt much good will come of it.

As we "advance," fewer marriages take place, fewer last, more children are aborted or raised in single-parent homes--usually female.

Younger people use profanity like crazy. Yutes "hook up," yet would instruct their elders about relationships and behavior?

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I think the focus should instead be on discouraging false allegations instead.

It would be nice if more of these liars would be hauled up by prosecutors and jailed for lying.

[Right_in_Virginia]

There is a statute of limitations for sexual harassment claims.  ...

What is the statute of limitation to report, investigate and adjudicate such a claim?  What is it and where is that written?

And while you're quoting law ... what is the definition of sexual harassment?

@Sanguine

[Sanguine]

What is the statute of limitation to report, investigate and adjudicate such a claim?  What is it and where is that written?

And while you're quoting law ... what is the definition of sexual harassment?

@Sanguine

Good grief, don't be a twit.  It varies from locale to locale. As does the statute of limitation.  Now, what does that have to do with my very general statement.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Good grief, don't be a twit.  It varies from locale to locale. As does the statute of limitation.  Now, what does that have to do with my very general statement.

I am not a twit @Sanguine   It does not vary from locale to locale.  There are NO statue of limitations on the books for reporting and adjudicating claims of sexual harassment ...  anywhere ...  as we have witnessed these past few weeks.  Just as there is not one clear, accepted definition of sexual harassment or sexual assault. 

You did not make a "very general statement".  You stated ... categorically ... that the author is wrong because there are statues of limitations and he was trying to suppress free speech.

It appears the only wrong statement was yours.   Just own it.

[Sanguine]

I am not a twit @Sanguine   It does not vary from locale to locale.  There are NO statue of limitations on the books for reporting and adjudicating claims of sexual harassment ...  anywhere ...  as we have witnessed these past few weeks.  Just as there is not one clear, accepted definition of sexual harassment or sexual assault. 

You did not make a "very general statement".  You stated ... categorically ... that the author is wrong because there are statues of limitations and he was trying to suppress free speech.

It appears the only wrong statement was yours.   Just own it.

 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Another compelling reply @Sanguine  In this age of important issues and sharp, rapid debate you're becoming my go to for comic relief.

I thank you.   

[TomSea]

It's not worth worrying too much about the letter of the law here, it would seem to be ambiguous to me. We are not so much as talking about criminal matters but civil ones it seems.

[Cyber Liberty]

It's not worth worrying too much about the letter of the law here, it would seem to be ambiguous to me. We are not so much as talking about criminal matters but civil ones it seems.

Not even that, because civil cases have a Statute of Limitations.  The question is, can "offenses" be brought up decades after the fact in order to destroy the public lives of select people?

[Fishrrman]

"Michael Savage: Should There Be a Statute of Limitations for Sexual Harassment Claims?"

Well, ok. If there are none, time to set some:

- Within five years -- worth checking out.

- 5-10 years -- getting too hazy to believe

- More than 10 years -- too late, go bark up another tree.

[Silver Pines]

Another compelling reply @Sanguine  In this age of important issues and sharp, rapid debate you're becoming my go to for comic relief.

I thank you.   

@Right_in_Virginia

Wow, that level of bitter vitriol was totally uncalled for. 

I see your little red friend again.  Very fitting.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Right_in_Virginia

Wow, that level of bitter vitriol was totally uncalled for. 

I see your little red friend again.  Very fitting.

@CatherineofAragon @Right_in_Virginia

That is especially obnoxious when you consider RiV is FOS on this one.  There IS, in fact a Statute of Limitations in EEOC regulations.  Look:

https://employment-law.freeadvice.com/employment-law/sexual_harassment/time_limitations.htm
https://www.eeoc.gov/employees/timeliness.cfm

The EEOC reckons it at 180-300 days, after which they won't look at it.

The point of the article. however, isn't about the LEGAL Statute of Limitations, it's "What is the time limit after which it can't be used against public people," and the answer seems to be "never."  Savage then goes on to explain why that's a bad thing.

[Silver Pines]

@CatherineofAragon @Right_in_Virginia

That is especially obnoxious when you consider RiV is FOS on this one.  There IS, in fact a Statute of Limitations in EEOC regulations.  Look:

https://employment-law.freeadvice.com/employment-law/sexual_harassment/time_limitations.htm
https://www.eeoc.gov/employees/timeliness.cfm

The EEOC reckons it at 180-300 days, after which they won't look at it.

The point of the article. however, isn't about the LEGAL Statute of Limitations, it's "What is the time limit after which it can't be used against public people," and the answer seems to be "never."  Savage then goes on to explain why that's a bad thing.

@Cyber Liberty

Yep, right on all counts. 

I guess “twit” nailed it, after all.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty

Yep, right on all counts. 

I guess “twit” nailed it, after all.

Well, generally I prefer not to use the word "twit," but we are dealing with ignorance or a deliberate distortion of the facts.  Either. 

[Cripplecreek]

Good luck Mikey.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

Wow, that level of bitter vitriol was totally uncalled for. 

Pffft ... @CatherineofAragon   A bit of the pot calling the kettle black, wouldn't you say?

But I do appreciate you taking time out of your guilty until proven innocent crusade to intrude.   

[Silver Pines]

Pffft ... @CatherineofAragon   A bit of the pot calling the kettle black, wouldn't you say?

But I do appreciate you taking time out of your guilty until proven innocent crusade to intrude.   

@Right_in_Virginia

I can come back hard when people ask for it—-like you, who openly encouraged the insults thrown at my dead veteran father.  Keep that in mind next time you post some hypocritical article about the military.

@Sanguine did nothing to deserve your yap attack.

As for the Moore thing, let’s not forget you were concerned about the accusations yourself when they came out.  Then you pulled back when you realized Trump hadn’t told you what to think.  So you held off until he gave you your opinion.

[Sanguine]

@Right_in_Virginia

I can come back hard when people ask for it—-like you, who openly encouraged the insults thrown at my dead veteran father.  Keep that in mind next time you post some hypocritical article about the military.

@Sanguine did nothing to deserve your yap attack.

As for the Moore thing, let’s not forget you were concerned about the accusations yourself when they came out.  Then you pulled back when you realized Trump hadn’t told you what to think.  So you held off until he gave you your opinion.

Thanks, Catherine.  I am, however, blissfully unaware of what you speak.  I thought I heard some yapping earlier, but decided it was nothing.   ^-^

[Cripplecreek]

Thanks, Catherine.  I am, however, blissfully unaware of what you speak.  I thought I heard some yapping earlier, but decided it was nothing.   ^-^

That's how I deal with most of what is posted here these days.

[Cyber Liberty]

Thanks, Catherine.  I am, however, blissfully unaware of what you speak.  I thought I heard some yapping earlier, but decided it was nothing.   ^-^