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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2017, 02:54:57 am »
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2017, 02:57:42 am »
Quote from: truth_seeker on December 19, 2017, 02:54:57 am
I have that #nevertrump bug everyday, not merely today.

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I posted the topic, am very interested in it, and I'm far from Trump's biggest fan.
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2017, 03:29:57 am »
Quote from: truth_seeker on December 19, 2017, 02:09:18 am
I predict little interest in this subject here, since it completely lacks any #nevertrump angle.

BTW Mueller was FBI director during much of the timeframe in question re. Hezbollah.

Mark Levin was all over this, and a guy came on the show stating the Politico article was accurate.

You're wrong,.  This non-Trump fan is very interested.  In fact, I'm probably more interested because it doesn't involve Trump.

How was Mueller involved?  Was he involved?   Do you know?

I don't see anything happening to Obama over it.  So interested or not, this is, unfortunately, a non-issue.
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2017, 04:04:08 am »
Quote from: Applewood on December 19, 2017, 03:29:57 am
You're wrong,.  This non-Trump fan is very interested.  In fact, I'm probably more interested because it doesn't involve Trump.

How was Mueller involved?  Was he involved?   Do you know?

I don't see anything happening to Obama over it.  So interested or not, this is, unfortunately, a non-issue.
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Mueller was FBI director through much of that period.
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2017, 03:34:00 pm »
Whatever reservations I have about Trump (quite a few, even though I voted for him), they all pale in comparison to how I feel about Obama.
Obama was the most damaging president ever elected...worse than Wilson or FDR. At least FDR presided over the defeat of Germany and Japan by allowing the military to do the job. Whatever damage he did with his New Deal and other socialist-inspired programs, I got the feeling he still believed in America.
Obama is sui generis. While Slick Wilie was a rogue, he just wanted the perks.  Obama sincerely wanted to transform America into a socialist hellhole. He achieved many of this goals.
No other president had the goal to run the country down and subsitute his vision of a socialist America like Obama had. He was the worst.
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2017, 03:36:23 pm »
Quote from: goatprairie on December 19, 2017, 03:34:00 pm
Whatever reservations I have about Trump (quite a few, even though I voted for him), they all pale in comparison to how I feel about Obama.
Obama was the most damaging president ever elected...worse than Wilson or FDR. At least FDR presided over the defeat of Germany and Japan by allowing the military to do the job. Whatever damage he did with his New Deal and other socialist-inspired programs, I got the feeling he still believed in America.
Obama is sui generis. While Slick Wilie was a rogue, he just wanted the perks.  Obama sincerely wanted to transform America into a socialist hellhole. He achieved many of this goals.
No other president had the goal to run the country down and subsitute his vision of a socialist America like Obama had. He was the worst.

Sorry! He still comes in second to Abe Lincoln who opened wide the doors through which every progressive since has walked!

I otherwise agree with you.
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2017, 03:39:16 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on December 19, 2017, 03:36:23 pm
Sorry! He still comes in second to Abe Lincoln who opened wide the doors through which every progressive since has walked!

I otherwise agree with you.

 8888crybaby Boo-Hoo. Slavery went by the wayside.
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2017, 03:39:46 pm »
IMHO not really much of a secret.  He made it very clear that his sympathies in world politics was with groups like Hezbollah and the MoBros and he was going to use his state department to further their cause in any way possible...to include helping cause a revolution in Egypt.
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2017, 03:43:20 pm »
I've heard the pro-Russian/pro-Putin types defend Hezbollah.

Something about how during the Lebanese civil war,  they did team up with Christians and probably saved some Christians. If one researches this, that might be true.  Here is an example: http://www.mintpressnews.com/they-accept-us-as-we-are-christians-join-forces-with-muslim-group-hezbollah-to-fight-isis-in-lebanon/210088/

But I'm still against Hezbollah. I'm mostly against them, because they probably did play a role in murdering 250 of our own Marines.
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2017, 03:43:44 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on December 19, 2017, 02:09:18 am
I predict little interest in this subject here, since it completely lacks any #nevertrump angle.

BTW Mueller was FBI director during much of the timeframe in question re. Hezbollah.

Mark Levin was all over this, and a guy came on the show stating the Politico article was accurate.

This is what happens when you let your NTDS eat your brain.  Looks like three topics merged on the same story and it's no on the second page of discussion.

How about adding something positive or something that moves the debate forward instead of constantly crapping on every topic that doesn't bow to Donnie.

Can you at least try?
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2017, 03:45:53 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on December 19, 2017, 03:43:20 pm
I've heard the pro-Russian/pro-Putin types defend Hezbollah.

Something about how during the Lebanese civil war,  they did team up with Christians and probably saved some Christians. If one researches this, that might be true.  Here is an example: http://www.mintpressnews.com/they-accept-us-as-we-are-christians-join-forces-with-muslim-group-hezbollah-to-fight-isis-in-lebanon/210088/

But I'm still against Hezbollah. I'm mostly against them, because they probably did play a role in murdering 250 of our own Marines.

Let me give you a tip on reading the news Tom.  Every time you see the word "Hezbollah" in a story substitute the word "Iran" and you will begin to get the picture!
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2017, 03:46:19 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on December 19, 2017, 03:43:20 pm
I've heard the pro-Russian/pro-Putin types defend Hezbollah.

Something about how during the Lebanese civil war,  they did team up with Christians and probably saved some Christians. If one researches this, that might be true.  Here is an example: http://www.mintpressnews.com/they-accept-us-as-we-are-christians-join-forces-with-muslim-group-hezbollah-to-fight-isis-in-lebanon/210088/

But I'm still against Hezbollah. I'm mostly against them, because they probably did play a role in murdering 250 of our own Marines.

Most of the Secular parts of the Middle East DO accepting the Christians in their population because they are some of the most ancient sects of Christianity.  It's only been since the advent and rise of the puritanical elements like Daesh and the Taliban have we seen the destruction of Christian and other ancient religious artifacts churches and groups of people.

As bad as Assad and Hussein are/were they did provide protection to the Christian sects within their borders.
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2017, 04:01:14 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on December 19, 2017, 03:36:23 pm
Sorry! He still comes in second to Abe Lincoln who opened wide the doors through which every progressive since has walked!

I otherwise agree with you.
Yeah,  getting rid of slavery was awful, wasn't it?   :thud:
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2017, 06:09:33 pm »
Quote from: goatprairie on December 19, 2017, 04:01:14 pm
Yeah,  getting rid of slavery was awful, wasn't it?   :thud:

NO! It wasn't!  But destroying the republic in the process damned sure was!
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2017, 06:44:15 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on December 19, 2017, 04:04:08 am
Mueller was FBI director through much of that period.

I get that, but do you know how involved he was in this matter? 
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2017, 06:46:22 pm »
Quote from: Applewood on December 19, 2017, 06:44:15 pm
I get that, but do you know how involved he was in this matter?

I would offer that a director of the FBI who didn't know what was going on right under his nose is pretty damned worthless to begin with!
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2017, 06:49:03 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on December 19, 2017, 06:09:33 pm
NO! It wasn't!  But destroying the republic in the process damned sure was!
I seem to recall we still had a republic after the war.
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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2017, 06:56:12 pm »
Quote from: goatprairie on December 19, 2017, 06:49:03 pm
I seem to recall we still had a republic after the war.

Well then, you recall incorrectly because we no longer did and the FACT has been acknowledged by many including the decidedly leftist historian James McPherson in his monumental Battle Cry of Freedom
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: The Secret Backstory Of How Obama Let Hezbollah Off The Hook
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2017, 09:21:11 pm »
   Incidentally Briefers Part 2 and 3 are up now.

Part II

Everywhere and Nowhere

From its headquarters in the Middle East, Hezbollah extends its criminal reach to Latin America, Africa and the United States.

Part III

A battle against enemies far and near

As negotiations for the Iran nuclear deal intensify, the administration pushes back against Project Cassandra.

   At already provided LINK.

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