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How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« on: December 13, 2017, 07:18:17 pm »

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So, how bad is 2018 going to be for Republicans?

The indicators are in line for a wipeout. President Trump’s job approval hovers in the 30s, despite a strong economy and a soaring stock market, and despite several weeks of solid policy and the strong probability of a tax cut. Democratic turnout in post-2016 election has been extraordinarily high:

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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2017, 08:19:58 pm »
This is great news for Trump/Bannon Republicans who despise McConnell and Ryan. 

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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2017, 08:52:57 pm »
How about those of us who despise most of them?

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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2017, 08:54:50 pm »
This is great news for Trump/Bannon Republicans who despise McConnell and Ryan.

Hate to break it to you, but Trump, McConnell, and Ryan are on the same team.  Which is the primary reason Bannon no longer works in the White House.
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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2017, 09:04:17 pm »
So, how bad is 2018 going to be for Republicans?

The indicators are in line for a wipeout.

Deservedly so.

They need to be buried alongside the Whigs.

I will not be voting for anyone in that party ever again.
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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2017, 09:10:49 pm »
Hate to break it to you, but Trump, McConnell, and Ryan are on the same team.  Which is the primary reason Bannon no longer works in the White House.
I never said Trump isn't working with Ryan and McConnell.  I said Trump/Bannon Republicans despise Ryan and McConnell.

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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2017, 09:21:26 pm »
Deservedly so.

They need to be buried alongside the Whigs.

I will not be voting for anyone in that party ever again.

I wish I could join you, but we're this far away from the Democrats literally establishing a Dictatorship, which has been their dream for years.

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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2017, 09:23:03 pm »
The problem with the theory is that the Dems have expended massive resources they don't really have into these special elections to try and gain themselves psychological momentum going into '18.

They now have seriously depleted themselves while having to defend a huge number of seats. They are hoping this created bubble of hype and hysteria will carry them over the line and not dissipate before election day.

Of course the GOP will probably screw it up, as it seems they want to be in the minority more than the majority.
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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2017, 09:24:52 pm »
I wish I could join you, but we're this far away from the Democrats literally establishing a Dictatorship, which has been their dream for years.

We already have one in practice.

You're still existing in the defunct ether that there is a difference in the parties and that an Oligarchy isn't ruling DC.

But, Normalcy Bias and Cognitive Dissonance are traits of a people who refuse to realize the massive shift in reality.
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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2017, 09:25:33 pm »
The problem with the theory is that the Dems have expended massive resources they don't really have into these special elections to try and gain themselves psychological momentum going into '18.

They now have seriously depleted themselves while having to defend a huge number of seats. They are hoping this created bubble of hype and hysteria will carry them over the line and not dissipate before election day.

Of course the GOP will probably screw it up, as it seems they want to be in the minority more than the majority.

You got that. The Rats are past broke and their big money guys are losing their Hollywood jobs because of their rapey actions.

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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2017, 09:48:18 pm »
37% is catastrophic for a President in mid-terms.  If Trump raises his approval toward 50% they could retain the House.  All he needs to do is act like an adult, and plug the economy.  That's it.  What a waste.

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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2017, 09:48:53 pm »
We already have one in practice.

You're still existing in the defunct ether that there is a difference in the parties and that an Oligarchy isn't ruling DC.

But, Normalcy Bias and Cognitive Dissonance are traits of a people who refuse to realize the massive shift in reality.
Your self-righteousness is showing.
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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2017, 10:00:13 pm »
Your self-righteousness is showing.

If that's what you want to call people who recognize reality for what it is and call the emperor naked instead of fabulously dressed, knock yourself out.
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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2017, 10:09:34 pm »
If that's what you want to call people who recognize reality for what it is and call the emperor naked instead of fabulously dressed, knock yourself out.

You not only don't recognize reality, you live on a planet far, far away from it. A man so blind that he equates guys like Gorsuch, Alito and Scalia with Ginsberg, Kagan, Breyer and Sotomayor....doesn't get to discuss reality as if he knows what that is.

Moral narcissism is not a good quality...nor is it a Christian value. Yet that is precisely what you wear on your sleeve every day. Your efforts to paint fellow Republicans and Conservatives as blind sheep...painting yourself as the enlightened one who sees the nakedness of the emperor...is just you inflating your own ego. Get over yourself, because its such foolishness that is willingly handing this country over to the Clinton/Pelosi gang.
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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2017, 10:14:15 pm »
37% is catastrophic for a President in mid-terms.  If Trump raises his approval toward 50% they could retain the House.  All he needs to do is act like an adult, and plug the economy.  That's it.  What a waste.

Think of what could've been accomplished if Trump'd received the unqualified support of his own party.

What a waste indeed.

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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2017, 10:21:26 pm »
You not only don't recognize reality, you live on a planet far, far away from it. A man so blind that he equates guys like Gorsuch, Alito and Scalia with Ginsberg, Kagan, Breyer and Sotomayor....doesn't get to discuss reality as if he knows what that is.

Show us where I have ever equated Alito and Scalia with the likes of Ginsberg, Kagan and Sotomayor.  You cannot, because I never have.

As far as your failed party goes - the fruits speak volumes regardless of whether or not hacks like yourself insist we see that the emperor is fully dressed in Conservative finery when we can see for ourselves that your party is naked, poor and blind.

Moral narcissism is not a good quality...nor is it a Christian value. Yet that is precisely what you wear on your sleeve every day.

When the truth is not what a people beholden to tradition want to hear, equating it with moral narcissism is such a convenient tool.   Then again, people just like you declared Jesus had a Demon too.

Your efforts to paint fellow Republicans and Conservatives as blind sheep...painting yourself as the enlightened one who sees the nakedness of the emperor...is just you inflating your own ego.

The fruits speak.

And yet people like you refuse to see them and declare them to be exactly what they are not, because it doesn't fit the narrative and your blind faith in a wholly corrupted institution of men.

Get over yourself, because its such foolishness that is willingly handing this country over to the Clinton/Pelosi gang.

Fine.  What the hell do you intend to do about it tough guy?

Your party is every bit and more an enemy to liberty and the Constitution as the Clintons'/Obamas'/Pelosi/Schumer' and the Sanders' are.

Not a damn thing you can do to silence me.
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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2017, 10:24:05 pm »
OK, this is degenerating into the stupid zone. 

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"No, you are!"

"You are!"

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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2017, 10:42:46 pm »
What tax cut?

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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2017, 10:51:47 pm »
This is the ultimate Trump Legacy: democratic control of the government for the next 20 years.

Mark my words.

Maybe after those 20 years are up, RIV will finally admit how bad she effed up.
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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2017, 11:06:27 pm »
Think of what could've been accomplished if Trump'd received the unqualified support of his own party.

Think of what could've been accomplished if Trump hadn't saved McConnell from getting primaried in 2014.
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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2017, 11:26:26 pm »
Think of what could've been accomplished if Trump hadn't saved McConnell from getting primaried in 2014.

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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2017, 01:24:38 am »
The problem with the theory is that the Dems have expended massive resources they don't really have into these special elections to try and gain themselves psychological momentum going into '18.

They now have seriously depleted themselves while having to defend a huge number of seats. They are hoping this created bubble of hype and hysteria will carry them over the line and not dissipate before election day.

Of course the GOP will probably screw it up, as it seems they want to be in the minority more than the majority.

The GOP might screw it up, but they'll have to try harder.

The country is becoming more conservative.  I think there will be big Republican gains.
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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2017, 01:33:52 am »
The GOP might screw it up, but they'll have to try harder.

The country is becoming more conservative.  I think there will be big Republican gains.

I really wish I could believe that.

What I do see, though, are the two sides digging in with fewer undecideds occupying the middle ground. But given the demographic shifts I do not believe time is on our side.

Its why I figure the next year is so important - its an open window that will soon close - and why last nights loss was so significant.
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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2017, 01:36:12 am »
The GOP might screw it up, but they'll have to try harder.

The country is becoming more conservative.  I think there will be big Republican gains.

From your keyboard to Gods ears. I would certainly hope so.

Probably the best thing is all the dark and gloom... Hillary is going to win...again so's to speak. The democrats are out of gas.. money, sure they can pour 14 to 1 spending against a Roy Moore ...soros can see to that. Now spend like that Nationwide.

I too, expect large R gains , particularly  in the Senate.... where we need them the most. I figure the House will stay 'Bout the same... +-10... likely on the downside of that marker.
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Re: How Bad Will 2018 Be For Republicans?.. ByBen Shapiro
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2017, 01:46:25 am »
It's a long LONG way from December 2017 to November 2018.

A lot of things could yet happen that are completely unforeseen right now.

Want to help the odds for the Pubbies in 2018? Then...
- get the tax bill passed (the Senate version that kills the obamacare individual mandate).
- push those federal judges through. Turn the confirmation process into a revolving door and rubber stamp if you have to.
- get at least SOME kind of obamacare bill through. Chip away at the edges. DO SOMETHING to fracture its foundations.
- get the wall started. Something beyond "the demo stage". Get some construction going. This transforms it from a campaign promise to something real and tangible that traditional Americans will support.
- keep up the pressure on the illegal/border situation. Keep the numbers of deportations of criminal illegals going up, up, UP. NO AMNESTY FOR dacas!
- END the filibuster rule in the Senate. JUST END IT. Period.
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