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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2017, 01:08:15 am »
I remember the defense argument was he found the gun, and dropped it. Apparently not witnesses that saw him aim and shoot her.

The jury was given involuntary manslaughter as an option @truth_seeker

They acquitted him of any responsibility for Kate's death.  Hell, kill someone with your car by accident and you're found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, never mind shooting the gun that killed a woman.

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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2017, 01:20:42 am »
Sorry.

I think that a lot of us were in shock when we posted.

I don't know why .. It is California after all!

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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2017, 01:22:31 am »
This was a political verdict. Can't have the policies they're so proud of called into question by the rubes in the rest of the country.

If the jurors/powers that be in SF think this will end the controversy over sanctuary cities or thought it would be fun to poke their critics in the eye with this verdict I do not think its ultimate effect will be quite as they believe.

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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2017, 01:27:58 am »
I remember the defense argument was he found the gun, and dropped it. Apparently not witnesses that saw him aim and shoot her.

They said tonight that the defense was he found the gun wrapped up under a park bench..when he unwrapped it it discharged killing Kate....that's their story.
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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2017, 01:30:33 am »
Where's Charles Bronson when we need him?

Or Thomas Magnum to ask if he’d seen the sunrise?

I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2017, 01:33:19 am »
All I can think of is her poor family, this spits in the face of justice. And Trump campaigned on this, the poster boy of illegal aliens was the accused. Sheesh.

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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2017, 01:41:48 am »
All I can think of is her poor family, this spits in the face of justice. And Trump campaigned on this, the poster boy of illegal aliens was the accused. Sheesh.

I'm trying to see the silver lining here.

If the jury had administered true justice here public opinion might have been prematurely placated. This perversion of justice just might ratchet up the public's sense of outrage at a time when legislation that might make a permanent difference is being considered. I hope.

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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2017, 01:45:52 am »
Wow.  Just wow.

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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2017, 01:48:35 am »
I'm trying to see the silver lining here.

If the jury had administered true justice here public opinion might have been prematurely placated. This perversion of justice just might ratchet up the public's sense of outrage at a time when legislation that might make a permanent difference is being considered. I hope.

There is no silver lining here except for the murderer who will once again be sent back to Mexico....say a prayer for Kate's family..I can't imagine their pain.
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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2017, 01:49:06 am »
This was a political verdict. Can't have the policies they're so proud of called into question by the rubes in the rest of the country.

If the jurors/powers that be in SF think this will end the controversy over sanctuary cities or thought it would be fun to poke their critics in the eye with this verdict I do not think its ultimate effect will be quite as they believe.

And that, IMO, illustrates the problem of politicizing judicial cases. 
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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2017, 01:51:59 am »
This was a political verdict. Can't have the policies they're so proud of called into question by the rubes in the rest of the country.

If the jurors/powers that be in SF think this will end the controversy over sanctuary cities or thought it would be fun to poke their critics in the eye with this verdict I do not think its ultimate effect will be quite as they believe.

Indeed...a political verdict!  It's enough to make me sick.  I pray for Kate's family, I can't imagine how devastated they must be right now; purely a miscarriage of justice.
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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2017, 01:55:18 am »
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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2017, 02:32:44 am »
I know it's a bad time but I wonder if the parents have had a change of heart over "Sanctuary Cities?"

Kate Steinle's parents came out in 2015 and said they didn't like the use of the term "Kate's Law" for the Federal law under consideration to cut funding to sanctuary cities because they were not necessarily against sanctuary cities.

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“We didn’t have a stance against sanctuary city,” Jim Steinle said in 2015, adding “We wanted to make darn sure that people understand that, because that’s kind of the hot-button issue locally.”

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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2017, 02:38:45 am »
I know it's a bad time but I wonder if the parents have had a change of heart over "Sanctuary Cities?"

Kate Steinle's parents came out in 2015 and said they didn't like the use of the term "Kate's Law" for the Federal law under consideration to cut funding to sanctuary cities because they were not necessarily against sanctuary cities.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/341137-kate-steinles-father-we-didnt-coin-kates-law



I don't think so they are suing San Fran..
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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2017, 02:45:05 am »
Michelle Malkin on Hannity certainly does a fine job explaining all this, venting her rage.  To be seen if one can.

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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2017, 02:45:09 am »
Disgusting verdict from disgusting California. I heard that the jury was not allowed to hear about his five prior felony convictions or his many deportations. Why is that? And what about three strikes? I feel terrible for her parents. Justice denied.
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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2017, 03:10:08 am »
There is no silver lining here except for the murderer who will once again be sent back to Mexico....say a prayer for Kate's family..I can't imagine their pain.

Maybe and then again maybe not. Jeff Sessions can prosecute at the federal level. Felon
with a gun is good for 5-15. There are other possible federal charges too.

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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2017, 03:19:13 am »
California DA's can't win  a conviction to save their lives.  Worthless lot of asswipes.
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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2017, 03:20:36 am »
California DA's can't win  a conviction to save their lives.  Worthless lot of asswipes.

I don't know. This looks like the outcome they wanted. The trial was just for show.

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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2017, 03:20:50 am »
Maybe and then again maybe not. Jeff Sessions can prosecute at the federal level. Felon
with a gun is good for 5-15. There are other possible federal charges too.

I sure-sure hope so but it's almost like I'm hearing if he stays in the Sanctuary City (or even State), he will still be protected. A bunch of rubbish, we will see what can happen.

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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2017, 03:23:23 am »
I don't know. This looks like the outcome they wanted. The trial was just for show.

Could be an extension of the Sanctuary State policy..  No undocumented persons shall be detained or convicted of a crime at the state or local level by order of Gov Moonbeam....
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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2017, 03:29:08 am »
Could be an extension of the Sanctuary State policy..  No undocumented persons shall be detained or convicted of a crime at the state or local level by order of Gov Moonbeam....

One thing that the Prosecutors got now is a precedent that what this wet back shitbag did is legal. As a matter of fact the message sent is the it was the gun that did the killing because it was unreliably dangerous.

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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2017, 03:35:39 am »
They don't recognize or Celebrate Christmas out there.  Must be a Ramadan/Kwanzaa  Miracle.
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Re: Kate Steinle murder suspect found not guilty
« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2017, 03:40:09 am »
They don't recognize or Celebrate Christmas out there.  Must be a Ramadan/Kwanzaa  Miracle.