Latest Alabama poll shows Moore leading Jones 49-44

[Fantom]

Alabama (and Auburn) still has some fight in her.... When Yankee comedians send leftist clowns down to mock Roy Moore, sometimes the people rebel against the elitists doing it.

 

[Sighlass]

Also as I mentioned earlier ( @Oceander ), here is the NY sLimes article that also said Roy Moore was correct.

In Sort-of-Defense of Roy Moore (By EMILY BAZELONFEB. 11, 2015 )

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/magazine/in-sort-of-defense-of-roy-moore.html

[Fantom]

Conservatism used to spring from the Federalists and the writings of men of contemplative wisdom.
Conservatism today is founded on the principles and ideology of "here, hold ma beer."

Calling @Oceander a communist just makes YOU sound stupid.  Unfortunately you haven't the tools to sound smarter on other topics, or entertain me.

Reading your posts is worthless.

Trigger Warning


LOL, you un-magnificant dastard.  @Once-Ler

The first Founders of Conservatism... were anti-federalist. It was dimbulb socialist who argued for a strong central(federal) government which gave us democrat party and ultimately obama/clinton. If that is what you argue for..well..... LOL.

Maybe you are worthy of bringing Slick Willie some coffee. Does not seem you have the mind for little much more.

BTW, that me with the guitar... you dancin' to my tune. If you danced better... more entertaining it would be for me.

[Smokin Joe]

The federal district courts decision was supreme to the Alabama state constitution.  Moore is a lawless git, without a real conservative bone in his body.

While I am no fan of mob rule, the Alabama State Constitution and the people (at least 4/5 of those who voted on the issue)  said marriage would be defined as between one man and one woman.

One (Federal, District) judge said otherwise.

One of these things is closer to tyranny.

Moore resisted that one. Not just whined in the newspaper and caved, but actively resisted it to the point he lost his job over it. Agree with him or not (and in this, I do agree with him), he is a man who will stand on principle.

I am not surprised that there are those, especially in DC, who will find that unacceptable.

[aligncare]

Yes we are,  and men cannot change the law from a judge's bench.  It can only be changed legislatively. 

Federal judges have become tyrants,  and Roy Moore stood up to them.  Finally someone did the right thing with those lying bastards that tried to usurp our laws.   


 


That system has failed.  It is broken.  Congress does not have the guts to impeach a judge for a bad decision,  nor do they have the necessary unity to do it.   The media (sockpuppets for the New York Crony Capitalist/Deep State coalition) steer public opinion,  and there is nothing with which to counter their power.   



We morphed into Federal Tyranny back in 1861, and people were too foolish to realize it.   We are a long way from the separation of powers the founders created.  It is now all concentrated in New York and Washington DC.  Those two cities effectively run the nation.

Correct. Which is why we have the specter of Bill DeBlasio, noted communist, who won reelection last month to a second term as mayor of NYC, jetting around the country with his bad eye fixed on running for US president.

[Emjay]

It's interesting that some of our beloved members here are screeching 'child abuse' against Moore while, apparently, preferring his opponent who is fervently for abortion.

That's real child abuse.

[TomSea]

Of course, we hear no criticism of some certain Senators that found the information against Moore so persuasive, they removed their endorsements.

[TomSea]

Trigger Warning


LOL, you un-magnificant dastard.  @Once-Ler

The first Founders of Conservatism... were anti-federalist. It was dimbulb socialist who argued for a strong central(federal) government which gave us democrat party and ultimately obama/clinton. If that is what you argue for..well..... LOL.

Maybe you are worthy of bringing Slick Willie some coffee. Does not seem you have the mind for little much more.

BTW, that me with the guitar... you dancin' to my tune. If you danced better... more entertaining it would be for me.

The first Founders of Conservatism... were anti-federalist.

Can you name a name of one of these Founders of Conservatism?

I've seen this happen before and some people confuse the definition of "Federalist", I'm not saying you are but perhaps one can clarify.

[TomSea]

Jones is up 3% among likely voters, with 50% to Moore's 47%, according to a Washington Post-Schar School Poll.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/02/politics/poll-doug-jones-roy-moore/index.html

On the pro-life front, some find the allegations against Moore credible. You can argue as much as you want they aren't, but Senator Ted Cruz withdrew his endorsement and a number of so-called other Conservatives have said Jones should step down as well.

Since some find the accusations credible, perhaps Roy Moore would have shown respect for pro-life values by stepping down and allowing one of the other Republican candidates to seek the Senate seat.

[Applewood]

On the pro-life front, some find the allegations against Moore credible. You can argue as much as you want they aren't, but Senator Ted Cruz withdrew his endorsement and a number of so-called other Conservatives have said Jones should step down as well.

Since some find the accusations credible, perhaps Roy Moore would have shown respect for pro-life values by stepping down and allowing one of the other Republican candidates to seek the Senate seat.

I have some not-so-nice expletives for your post, but I will refrain. 

Whatever happened to letting the voters in Alabama decide? 

Really doesn't matter what "some" people think.  I'll bet those "some people" aren't Alabama residents.

And by the way, I don't give a rat's backside what Ted Cruz thinks.  As an accomplished lawyer, he of all people should know that these allegations are suspiciously devoid of merit and having been himself accused unjustly of all manner of sexual impropriety during the presidential campaign, he should be standing by Moore.  That Cruz has decided to join in with McConnell and the rest of the liberal Republican hierarchy in condemning Moore shows me he is another phony swamp creature politician who has abandoned his Christian beliefs.  And like the rest of those lying chiselers in Washington, he can kiss my backside if he's looking for a campaign donation.

[TomSea]

Alabama (and Auburn) still has some fight in her.... When Yankee comedians send leftist clowns down to mock Roy Moore, sometimes the people rebel against the elitists doing it.

Just for the record, Trump beat Hillary by almost 30 points in Alabama.  That election, a little over a year ago.

Per the polls, it's not even clear Moore is solidly in the lead versus Jones. I would think he is but it certainly is not by nearly the same margin.

So, at the least, Alabamians supporting Moore appears to be much lower than the support Trump was getting in Alabama.

I'd like to see how that crowd in the picture would vote.

[Sighlass]

@TomSea

Jones is up 3% among likely voters, with 50% to Moore's 47%, according to a Washington Post-Schar School Poll.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/02/politics/poll-doug-jones-roy-moore/index.html

Over sampled democrats.... even using your post as a goalpost...

Just for the record, Trump beat Hillary by almost 30 points in Alabama.  That election, a little over a year ago.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/02/washington-post-poll-alabama-senate-race-oversamples-democrats/

I'd like to see how that crowd in the picture would vote.

Being as some have Auburn ranked as most conservative student body, lets just say Doug Jones would not like how the vote tally would go.

[Jazzhead]

On the pro-life front, some find the allegations against Moore credible. You can argue as much as you want they aren't, but Senator Ted Cruz withdrew his endorsement and a number of so-called other Conservatives have said Jones should step down as well.

Since some find the accusations credible, perhaps Roy Moore would have shown respect for pro-life values by stepping down and allowing one of the other Republican candidates to seek the Senate seat.

Good point.  If Jones wins,  the damage to the pro-life cause is all Roy Moore's fault.  Because Strange or Brooks would have won the seat handily.   

[Sighlass]

Good point.  If Jones wins,  the damage to the pro-life cause is all Roy Moore's fault.  Because Strange or Brooks would have won the seat handily.   

I get the feeling you are scared "dependless" over the fact a true person that would not vote for PP funding is about to get elected even over RINO objections and millions funneled from Obama out of state groups.

Obama Campaigners Rush Over $1 Million in Secretive ‘In-Kind’ Donations to Shell ‘Independent Expenditure’ Group Backing Doug Jones.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/01/obama-campaigners-rush-over-1-million-in-secretive-in-kind-donations-to-shell-independent-expenditure-group-backing-doug-jones/

Let me just say, Every other commercial here on TV seems to be a Doug commercial. Where have I seen that before? When the RINO did the same thing supporting Luther Strange (who was hated in gun groups because his failure to support gun rights in his job position as AG).

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Now back to the SEC Championship game... Go Tigers...

[TomSea]

I get the feeling you are scared "dependless" over the fact a true person that would not vote for PP funding is about to get elected even over RINO objections and millions funneled from Obama out of state groups.

Obama Campaigners Rush Over $1 Million in Secretive ‘In-Kind’ Donations to Shell ‘Independent Expenditure’ Group Backing Doug Jones.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/01/obama-campaigners-rush-over-1-million-in-secretive-in-kind-donations-to-shell-independent-expenditure-group-backing-doug-jones/

Let me just say, Every other commercial here on TV seems to be a Doug commercial. Where have I seen that before? When the RINO did the same thing supporting Luther Strange (who was hated in gun groups because his failure to support gun rights in his job position as AG).

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Now back to the SEC Championship game... Go Tigers...

Trump's been the most pro-life president per objective sources to begin with, so if Guns are that much more important and you totally ignore being the most pro-life president yet, if you are taking a swipe at him and your esteemed Ted Cruz pulled his endorsement from Moore. Trump won the presidential with many more Alabamians supporting him and the primary for that matter. I know you just taunt people if they supported Trump but we can't seem to get a straight answer here.

[TomSea]

@TomSea

Over sampled democrats.... even using your post as a goalpost...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/02/washington-post-poll-alabama-senate-race-oversamples-democrats/

Being as some have Auburn ranked as most conservative student body, lets just say Doug Jones would not like how the vote tally would go.

So Breitbart is saying Washington Post and Fox News both posted skewed polls. Okay, I see their methodology, it doesn't necessarily mean its so.

[TomSea]

https://patch.com/alabama/across-al/young-republican-federation-alabama-pulls-support-roy-moore

Even the Young Republican Federation of Alabama pulled their support from Moore, I don't know if this is the same as the college group that did it.

[TomSea]

If I were in Alabama, I would not know how I would vote until I was in the voting booth; but in the meantime, just pointing out facets of this case doesn't hurt.

[TomSea]

I get the feeling you are scared "dependless" over the fact a true person that would not vote for PP funding is about to get elected even over RINO objections and millions funneled from Obama out of state groups.

No need to make it personal, after one year, Trump has shown he has been the most pro-life president, so in other words, sounds like you voted against Trump, that you put down the most pro-life president every chance you can.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/trump-the-most-pro-life-president-in-history

Oh and from this breitbart source you use to often:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/08/one-year-later-trump-hailed-pro-life-president-modern-history/

[TomSea]

That is a good point, I saw some story the other day saying Doug Jones is a Soros backed candidate, well, I certainly wouldn't vote for him.

But look at Marine Colonel Busby, Republican, trying to run write-in, to just pawn this off as the doings of Democrats and RINOS and Soros doesn't look like the total picture.

[TomSea]

CWA, Concerned Women of America were not for Trump in the primaries, mainly because of his language, cussing at times, I don't agree with that either.  CWA is a respected Evangelical organization. I"m not sure if they are headquartered out of NC, I don't feel like checking their whole history out but it is something like this.

Concerned Women for America Calls Trump 'Most Pro-Life President In Modern History'
Chris Agee

As Penny Nance, the president and CEO of the anti-abortion group Concerned Women for America, made clear in a statement to Breitbart News Wednesday, President Donald Trump maintains a solid reputation as a pro-life advocate.

“President Trump has been the most pro-life president in modern history,” Nance said.

She specifically noted the executive action early on in the Trump administration to restore the Mexico City policy, which prohibits U.S. government funding of abortions in other nations.

https://www.westernjournal.com/concerned-women-for-america-calls-trump-most-pro-life-president-in-modern-history/

https://www.christianpost.com/news/4-pro-life-accomplishments-trumps-first-100-days-181663/

So, if one is tearing Trump down, get informed. I voted for the nominee as I always do. I"m very content in this area.

[Applewood]

Ok, this is turning into a Trump worship thread. 

(Backing out)

[Formerly Once-Ler]

LOL, you un-magnificant dastard.  @Once-Ler

The first Founders of Conservatism... were anti-federalist. It was dimbulb socialist who argued for a strong central(federal) government which gave us democrat party and ultimately obama/clinton. If that is what you argue for..well..... LOL.

I take it back.  This is entertaining.  Your understanding of "Federalism" is delightfully simplistic like a bumper sticker.  Please tell me more.
I enjoy watching you splash about exuberantly in the kiddie pool of Trumpian political philosophy...with your big red clown shoes on. 

[Smokin Joe]

Trump's been the most pro-life president per objective sources to begin with, so if Guns are that much more important and you totally ignore being the most pro-life president yet, if you are taking a swipe at him and your esteemed Ted Cruz pulled his endorsement from Moore. Trump won the presidential with many more Alabamians supporting him and the primary for that matter. I know you just taunt people if they supported Trump but we can't seem to get a straight answer here.

That's because this thread isn't about Trump vs Cruz, it's about Moore vs Jones. Keep up Tom.

[musiclady]

That's because this thread isn't about Trump vs Cruz, it's about Moore vs Jones. Keep up Tom.

He's obsessed.  He can't keep up......