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House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« on: November 16, 2017, 06:57:12 pm »
House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
By Naomi Jagoda and Cristina Marcos - 11/16/17 01:48 PM EST

The House on Thursday passed legislation to overhaul the tax code, moving Republicans one step closer to achieving the top item on their legislative agenda.

The measure was approved by a vote of 227-205. No Democrats voted for the bill, while 13 Republicans broke ranks to oppose it. 

“Passing this bill is the single biggest thing we can do to grow the economy, to restore opportunity and help these middle income families who are struggling,” Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said ahead of the vote.

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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2017, 06:58:40 pm »
It will die in the Senate.   McLame will make sure of that.
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2017, 07:47:31 pm »
It will die in the Senate.   McLame will make sure of that.

Without the honorable Sen from Arizona being in there to vote against this bad tax plan it might pass.
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2017, 08:08:07 pm »
Without the honorable Sen from Arizona being in there to vote against this bad tax plan it might pass.
Bless him and May God not take him till his time has come.

No help if the Rats don't lose anybody, but keep a good thought about the 'Splody-head.
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2017, 08:20:17 pm »
Without the honorable Sen from Arizona being in there to vote against this bad tax plan it might pass.
Bless him and May God not take him till his time has come.

...hmm last time I checked we definitely don't have an honorable Senator from AZ.  He belongs in Hillary's basket of deplorable who sides with the DEMS every chance he gets!  Certainly he will meet his maker when he decides it time ... yeppers, Old Johnny has some 'splainin' to do!
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2017, 08:29:01 pm »
Without the honorable Sen from Arizona being in there to vote against this bad tax plan it might pass.
Bless him and May God not take him till his time has come.

@WineNot What about thr House bill don't you like?  I figure it won't make a hill of beans difference to me one way or the other.  Though I would be interested to see some informed discussion on what the corporate tax cut will do.

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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2017, 08:33:53 pm »
Without the honorable Sen from Arizona being in there to vote against this bad tax plan it might pass.
Bless him and May God not take him till his time has come.

@WineNot

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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2017, 08:40:06 pm »
@WineNot

Barry Goldwater died decades ago.

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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2017, 08:46:20 pm »
@WineNot What about thr House bill don't you like?  I figure it won't make a hill of beans difference to me one way or the other.  Though I would be interested to see some informed discussion on what the corporate tax cut will do.

Many sites have examined the tax proposal and found it is disastrous for the middle class and only benefits the 1 percent.  Rather than regurgitate it here feel free to explore the "darkside".
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2017, 08:48:26 pm »
Many sites have examined the tax proposal and found it is disastrous for the middle class and only benefits the 1 percent.  Rather than regurgitate it here feel free to explore the "darkside".

Oh, I am definitely low class and I enjoy the darkside frequently, so maybe it won't be so bad if it passes.

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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2017, 09:11:02 pm »
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2017, 09:14:32 pm »
Many sites have examined the tax proposal and found it is disastrous for the middle class and only benefits the 1 percent.  Rather than regurgitate it here feel free to explore the "darkside".

Welcome to the forum; perhaps rather than make an all encompassing statement, you might want to provide links to those sites reporting that the tax proposal would be disastrous for the middle class and only benefits the 1 percent...just sayin'.
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2017, 09:19:21 pm »
Welcome to the forum; perhaps rather than make an all encompassing statement, you might want to provide links to those sites reporting that the tax proposal would be disastrous for the middle class and only benefits the 1 percent...just sayin'.

In all your posting years Dear Libertybelle, how many times have you changed someones mind by posting links to support your views in a hostile political environment? 
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2017, 09:24:59 pm »
Here's an idea, how about cutting spending?

Then cut taxes.   i signed up for a couple voip phone lines.   two business voip lines cost me $70 a month.    Taxes are another $30

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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2017, 09:26:47 pm »
In all your posting years Dear Libertybelle, how many times have you changed someones mind by posting links to support your views in a hostile political environment?

That's 'bele' ... and changing one's mind wasn't my point ... rather thinking about credibility.
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2017, 09:27:33 pm »
In all your posting years Dear Libertybelle, how many times have you changed someones mind by posting links to support your views in a hostile political environment?

Not very sporting of you my good chap.  You could have spotted this article:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/29/us/politics/trump-tax-plan-analysis.html
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2017, 09:28:57 pm »
Here's an idea, how about cutting spending?

Then cut taxes.   i signed up for a couple voip phone lines.   two business voip lines cost me $70 a month.    Taxes are another $30

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Yeah, I've noticed "Deficit Hawks" like John McCain only hunt when the cuts are in taxes, never when it's an increase in spending.
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2017, 09:38:26 pm »
Here's an idea, how about cutting spending?

Then cut taxes.   i signed up for a couple voip phone lines.   two business voip lines cost me $70 a month.    Taxes are another $30

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As the late Milton Friedman often reminded us, spending is the true tax. Deficit spending is simply deferred taxation, and today, both spending and deficits are on an upward trajectory.
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2017, 09:42:37 pm »
Not very sporting of you my good chap.  You could have spotted this article:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/29/us/politics/trump-tax-plan-analysis.html

They let you post links to The Times here and don't yell "Fake News" ?  Who knew.
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2017, 09:45:23 pm »
They let you post links to The Times here and don't yell "Fake News" ?  Who knew.

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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2017, 09:48:01 pm »
The day is young....The night crew will be on my butt in a second.

I'll go get a few links from the Democratic Underground then.
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2017, 09:54:59 pm »
I'll go get a few links from the Democratic Underground then.

Don't forget KOS.  They need the exposure too....
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2017, 09:57:10 pm »
Don't forget KOS.  They need the exposure too....
They have been a tad too excitable in the past.  But I'll take your advice.  Might be worth a cutnpaste.
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Re: House passes sweeping tax bill in huge victory for GOP
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2017, 10:02:13 pm »
Here's an idea, how about cutting spending?

Then cut taxes.   i signed up for a couple voip phone lines.   two business voip lines cost me $70 a month.    Taxes are another $30

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Better yet let's get the 16th Amendment revoked. Then they can't directly tax individual income.
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