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Offline Fishrrman

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White-on-White Voting
« on: November 16, 2017, 05:21:21 pm »
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/opinion/trump-white-voting.html

White-on-White Voting
New York Times
NOV. 16, 2017
Thomas B. Edsall

Dravosburg, Pa. is a small — population 1,746 — working-class suburb that lies along the Monongahela River 10 miles southeast of Pittsburgh. If we want to understand what actually propelled Donald Trump to victory last November, presidential voting patterns there provide a vital clue.

In 2012, Dravosburg backed Barack Obama over Mitt Romney 441 to 312, or 53.4 percent to 44.8 percent.

Four years later, the men and women of Dravosburg abandoned their Democratic loyalties and backed Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton, 56.3 to 41.1.

What is so interesting about this working-class community, with its strong ties to organized labor? It is one of thousands of white enclaves across the nation that provided Trump with his margin of victory.

The election of Donald Trump revealed that in some of the nation’s whitest municipalities and counties — the communities arguably most insulated from urban crime, immigration and gangs — Trump did far better than Romney had done four years earlier.

The 2016 results suggest that residents of a diminishing number of decisively white American towns and small cities — even those which supported Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012 — can now be politically mobilized around race, ethnicity, multiculturalism and immigration.

None of the nation’s whitest municipalities and counties — especially those in the Trump-voting Midwest — is immune.

Where are the overwhelmingly white localities experiencing the most rapid rate of minority population growth, although the absolute numbers themselves are small? They are in the part of the nation’s heartland — Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania — where Trump earned enough Electoral College support to win the presidency even as he lost the popular vote.

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Re: White-on-White Voting
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2017, 05:34:16 pm »
I would not normally post an article from the leftist-communist NYT, but...

... for some years now here in this forum, I've been posting about the emergence of "white identity politics" -- that is to say, the spread of something that has already occurred in the Deep South to other parts of the country.

Amazingly, even the NYT now seems to have discovered this.

This is why the "solid [democrat] South" has virtually turned 180 degrees. Whites there realized that they faced a democrat-communist party that was largely dominated by black influence. Hence, they switched to "the other side".

For decades, Southern whites hated the Republican party as their long memories stretched back to the "radical Republicans of Reconstruction". The old ways die hard -- but in time, they die anyway. From the sixties, and increasingly in the decades that followed, the whites realized that the dem-com party not only no longer served their interests, but had come to HATE them. So, they switched -- to what is essentially "the party of the whites".

Southern whites realize that to permit the democrat-communists to win is to submit to what will in many instances essentially be "black-rule". So, they vote against that.

This is not so much "racis'" as it is simple common sense and self-interest.
You, dear reader, may not like this, but you can't deny it.

And behavior like this amongst the NORTHERN whites of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin is what won the election in 2016 for Donald Trump.

As non-Southern whites "continue to turn", they will continue to win elsewhere.

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Re: White-on-White Voting
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2017, 05:39:49 pm »
An interesting map of counties that "flipped to Trump" in the 2016 election can be viewed here:
https://www.cnbc.com/heres-a-map-of-the-us-counties-that-flipped-to-trump-from-democrats/

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Re: White-on-White Voting
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2017, 06:35:07 pm »
A lot of the red flipped in the Dakotas, I thought they were already very red and in the Dakotas.

Also, for those same Dakotas and other Western states,  there are Reservations.

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Re: White-on-White Voting
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2017, 06:39:55 pm »