Luther Strange's campaign tried and failed to confirm Roy Moore allegations

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Luther Strange's campaign tried and failed to confirm Roy Moore allegations
by Steven Nelson | Nov 15, 2017, 12:01 AM

About six or seven months ago, Sen. Luther Strange's campaign heard that Roy Moore "liked to chase women around the courthouse," according to two Alabama Republican sources.

At the time, Moore faced a three-way Republican primary against Strange and Rep. Mo Brooks. In a tight race, it was clear the rumor could prove politically lethal.

"We did a lot of research. We tried and tried and tried," one source said. "I think if we were able to find the names out, we probably would have passed it along to a reporter to track down ... We just weren't able."

The second source said the campaign "was never able to get any solid information or leads or corroboration. Just like many people in Alabama, we heard a rumor."

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[TomSea]

The thing is, this behavior, even if we admit the proof of so-called "sexual assault" isn't strong, just Moore's own words that he doesn't deny he may have dated teenage girls is a big strike against him in the eyes of many. Moore probably would not have won these earlier races if this other was known.

[jpsb]

The thing is, this behavior, even if we admit the proof of so-called "sexual assault" isn't strong, just Moore's own words that he doesn't deny he may have dated teenage girls is a big strike against him in the eyes of many. Moore probably would not have won these earlier races if this other was known.

Yes, let's elected a big fan of partial birth abortion because, well, there are rumors
that Roy Moore acted inappropriately 40 years ago.

[Free Vulcan]

The thing is, this behavior, even if we admit the proof of so-called "sexual assault" isn't strong, just Moore's own words that he doesn't deny he may have dated teenage girls is a big strike against him in the eyes of many. Moore probably would not have won these earlier races if this other was known.

'Teenage girls' can be 18 and 19 years old. Perfectly legal. Why are you shading the truth to make it looks like something else?

We so far have only one confirmed date of an 18 y/o, who claims he plied her with alcohol underage, and she kissed him

All else is unsubstantiated accusations and hearsay.

If you think a 32 y/o dating an 18 y/o on one date is creepy, that's your call, but the rest so far has been proven crap.

[TomSea]

'Teenage girls' can be 18 and 19 years old. Perfectly legal. Why are you shading the truth to make it looks like something else?

We so far have only one confirmed date of an 18 y/o, who claims he plied her with alcohol underage, and she kissed him

All else is unsubstantiated accusations and hearsay.

If you think a 32 y/o dating an 18 y/o on one date is creepy, that's your call, but the rest so far has been proven crap.

We have Moore not denying he may have dated teenage girls, that in itself is bad in the eyes of a lot of people and a lot of eyewitnesses.

Yes, a man 30 and over dating teenage girls, that's my call. Heck, why not a man 70 and over dating teenage girls, it's legal after all.

[skeeter]

We have Moore not denying he may have dated teenage girls, that in itself is bad in the eyes of a lot of people and a lot of eyewitnesses.

Yes, a man 30 and over dating teenage girls, that's my call. Heck, why not a man 70 and over dating teenage girls, it's legal after all.

Out of curiosity, at what age would it be appropriate for a man to date teenagers, and why?

[RetBobbyMI]

We have Moore not denying he may have dated teenage girls, that in itself is bad in the eyes of a lot of people and a lot of eyewitnesses.

Yes, a man 30 and over dating teenage girls, that's my call. Heck, why not a man 70 and over dating teenage girls, it's legal after all.

Not denying or not lending any credibility to accusations is NOT akin to a guilty plea in any fashion.

[DiogenesLamp]

Yes, let's elected a big fan of partial birth abortion because, well, there are rumors
that Roy Moore acted inappropriately 40 years ago.

More or less summarizes the apparent conundrum in some people's minds. 

It seems like a "no-brainer"  to me. 

[Free Vulcan]

We have Moore not denying he may have dated teenage girls, that in itself is bad in the eyes of a lot of people and a lot of eyewitnesses.

Yes, a man 30 and over dating teenage girls, that's my call. Heck, why not a man 70 and over dating teenage girls, it's legal after all.

That's their choice to believe that. Again, teenage can mean perfectly legal 18 or 19. You're implying these women were underage. Not one shred of proof of that so far.

We're not talking about a 70 y/o man in this situation. If that situation comes up, it's up to the voters to decide.

[TomSea]

That's their choice to believe that. Again, teenage can mean perfectly legal 18 or 19. You're implying these women were underage. Not one shred of proof of that so far.

We're not talking about a 70 y/o man in this situation. If that situation comes up, it's up to the voters to decide.

No, I am not implying anything but what is said, "teenage" girls, take it or leave it.

So? About the 70 y/o man,  if it's legal, it's legal.

[TomSea]

Out of curiosity, at what age would it be appropriate for a man to date teenagers, and why?

I am not the moral judge of this.

A number of persons have already expressed displeasure with the notion of a 30 year old+ dating, kissing teenager girls if one reads the posts or follows the news.

It's up to the people of Alabama but polls have come out that nationally, 60% think he should step down.

[TomSea]

We've already had these Mall Cops say Moore was chased out of if not banned from the Mall.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/roy-moore-banned-ala-mall-targeting-teen-girls-article-1.3630623

http://people.com/politics/roy-moore-badgered-teen-girls-alabama-mall-1980s/

As something just posted in the editorial section, the GOP-nationally, may have to carry some of this baggage, could be a real concern.

[Applewood]

We've already had these Mall Cops say Moore was chased out of if not banned from the Mall.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/roy-moore-banned-ala-mall-targeting-teen-girls-article-1.3630623

http://people.com/politics/roy-moore-badgered-teen-girls-alabama-mall-1980s/

As something just posted in the editorial section, the GOP-nationally, may have to carry some of this baggage, could be a real concern.

and the Repubs could lose the seat altogether if they try to oust Moore.

[RetBobbyMI]

What’s the difference between a 30 year old dating an 18 year old versus a 40 year old dated in 28 year old in Alabama, other than the ages?  Noting illegal about it.

[skeeter]

I am not the moral judge of this.

Oh ok. It sounded to me like you were judging but trying to make it seem like it was someone else's idea.

[jmyrlefuller]

I think this is sufficient proof that the accusers purposely withheld the story for the express purpose of benefiting the Democrats.

[libertybele]

I think this is sufficient proof that the accusers purposely withheld the story for the express purpose of benefiting the Democrats.

Agreed...meanwhile the GOPe and Cruz, Lee and Croyn joined the bandwagon without considering a presumption of innocence until proven guilty

[INVAR]

I'm laughing at all this 'moral outrage' over the idea that a 30 year old single man was trying to date high school teens 40 years ago while we have NAMBLA types on the Homo Marriage bandwagon working to get society to accept sex with children as consensually legit.

Forty years ago - the idea of homosexuality let alone homosexual marriage was a universal repugnancy by most of society, while today the vast majority approve of it.

I find the 'moral outrage' to be nothing but 'political outrage' disguised as a moral issue.  Especially when one understands that the Republican leadership went to bat to exonerate Bob Menendez, a Democrat for criminal corruption and sex with underage prostitute charges.

[The_Reader_David]

What’s the difference between a 30 year old dating an 18 year old versus a 40 year old dated in 28 year old in Alabama, other than the ages?  Noting illegal about it.

Legally zilch, but culturally, there is the "half plus seven years" rule of non-creepiness that seems to ring true with a lot of folks.

[XenaLee]

Yes, let's elected a big fan of partial birth abortion because, well, there are rumors
that Roy Moore acted inappropriately 40 years ago.

Meanwhile.... back at the Reality Ranch....  there is solid proof (vs. rumor and innuendo) of the ""inappropriate behavior"" in the distant past of other politicians that have been given a pass by the leftist press and by the leftist politicians.  Not holding my breath for justice to be demanded for any of those (cough, Democrats) people though.

Maybe it's something in the Democrat DNA.   After all, back when Moore was supposedly running amuck.... he WAS a Democrat.   

[XenaLee]

I'm laughing at all this 'moral outrage' over the idea that a 30 year old single man was trying to date high school teens 40 years ago while we have NAMBLA types on the Homo Marriage bandwagon working to get society to accept sex with children as consensually legit.

Forty years ago - the idea of homosexuality let alone homosexual marriage was a universal repugnancy by most of society, while today the vast majority approve of it.

I find the 'moral outrage' to be nothing but 'political outrage' disguised as a moral issue.  Especially when one understands that the Republican leadership went to bat to exonerate Bob Menendez, a Democrat for criminal corruption and sex with underage prostitute charges.

More like.... politically motivated faux outrage.  It's hilarious and ironic... how, in trying to destroy Moore, the left is only exposing their own side's hypocrisy by showing what leches and reprobates they were, are and always will be.  And that goes for the RINOs in Congress (Democrats in Disguise), too.

[roamer_1]

I'm laughing at all this 'moral outrage' over the idea that a 30 year old single man was trying to date high school teens 40 years ago while we have NAMBLA types on the Homo Marriage bandwagon working to get society to accept sex with children as consensually legit.

STUNNING, isn't it?

Forty years ago - the idea of homosexuality let alone homosexual marriage was a universal repugnancy by most of society, while today the vast majority approve of it.

And forty years ago, young ladies were taught to factor a man's ability to provide into the courtship equation - Couples with a decade between them were not uncommon at all - Because a young man is not going to have the property and stability necessary to start a home and a family... My my, how the free love and free loans society has changed the morality of the people... Is it any wonder that half the marriages end in divorce? 

Maybe folks should look at why there was often a lot of years between a man and a woman - Like Roy Moore, whose wife of thirty faithful years and more is very much his junior.

I find the 'moral outrage' to be nothing but 'political outrage' disguised as a moral issue.

Add in some clucking from the Blue-Haired Old Ladies committee and you've got that just about right.

[truth_seeker]

Nearing 70 yrs. of age, I note

a) The fact my grandparents were 20 years apart in age. One marriage, lasted until his death 46 years.
b) The fact some close friends were around 12 years apart in age. Guy 30 and girl 18 at time of courtship and marriage. 
c) The fact some other friends are around 15 years apart in age, female older. Lasted about 45+ years so far.
d) Another couple married around 30 yrs., with 15 yr. age difference.

There are numerous examples, and denial of such, is dishonest.

You cannot convince me the older parties, were pervs deserving criticism.

Human courtships and attractions follow wide patterns.

MOORE'S OWN WIFE IS 14 YRS. YOUNGER THAN HE.

[roamer_1]

Nearing 70 yrs. of age, I note

a) The fact my grandparents were 20 years apart in age. One marriage, lasted until his death 46 years.
b) The fact some close friends were around 12 years apart in age. Guy 30 and girl 18 at time of courtship and marriage. 
c) The fact some other friends are around 15 years apart in age, female older. Lasted about 45+ years so far.
d) Another couple married around 30 yrs., with 15 yr. age difference.

There are numerous examples, and denial of such, is dishonest.

You cannot convince me the older parties, were pervs deserving criticism.

Human courtships and attractions follow wide patterns.

MOORE'S OWN WIFE IS 14 YRS. YOUNGER THAN HE.

As I have opined, over and again.

[driftdiver]

Nearing 70 yrs. of age, I note

a) The fact my grandparents were 20 years apart in age. One marriage, lasted until his death 46 years.
b) The fact some close friends were around 12 years apart in age. Guy 30 and girl 18 at time of courtship and marriage. 
c) The fact some other friends are around 15 years apart in age, female older. Lasted about 45+ years so far.
d) Another couple married around 30 yrs., with 15 yr. age difference.

There are numerous examples, and denial of such, is dishonest.

You cannot convince me the older parties, were pervs deserving criticism.

Human courtships and attractions follow wide patterns.

MOORE'S OWN WIFE IS 14 YRS. YOUNGER THAN HE.

150 years ago it wasn't uncommon for a 14 yr old to marry a 35 yr old.    But then the 35 yr old tended to die at 46.

Things change.   Cultural norms and accepted behavior with them.