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No one woke up dead in his Oldsmobile, either.

Consider fourteen of the fifteen Senators ever expelled from the US Senate were expelled over their positions in the War between the States, and included the Former Vice President and Senator who carried the South against Lincoln (Breckinridge) in 1860, all expelled for supporting the Confederacy in 1861 and 1862.

Since then, no US Senator has been expelled.

Votes on others have been held.

Harrison Williams and Bob Packwood most certainly would have been, but they resigned.
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Votes on others have been held.

Harrison Williams and Bob Packwood most certainly would have been, but they resigned.
John Ensign was the other who resigned, since WWII. Huey Long wasn't expelled (1934). So there is your standard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Senators_expelled_or_censured
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* Oregon Sen. Bob Packwood (R): Packwood faced a series of sexual assault and abuse of power allegations. On September 7, 1995, the Senate Committee on Ethics recommended Packwood be expelled. He announced he would resign the next day and officially left the chamber on October 1, 1995.

* New Jersey Sen. Harrison Williams Jr. (D): Williams was the central figure in the FBI's Abscam sting in which an agent impersonated an Arab Sheik who lavished Williams (and other members of Congress) with money in exchange for access and favorable treatment. Williams was indicted in 1980 and found guilty in 1981. Like Packwood, the Committee on Ethics recommended he be removed. He resigned on March 11, 1982.

* North Dakota Sen. William Langer (R): On the day he was to be seated in the Senate in 1940, Langer was accused of bribery and other charges by a group of North Dakota citizens. A Senate Select Committee tasked with looking into the allegations recommended expulsion. But Langer survived -- with just 30 Senators voting to expel him.

* Louisiana Sen. Huey Long (D)/Louisiana Sen. John Overton (D): Long was elected first in 1930 but played a major role in Overton's election two years later as well. The allegation was that Long -- through his control of the apparatus of state government -- used government resources as campaign workers to help Overton. Two Senate committees tasked with looking into the charges couldn't find their way through the thicket of allegations, and no expulsion vote was ever held for either man.

* Montana Sen. Burton Wheeler (D): Wheeler was paid by someone to represent their interests before the Department of the Interior. (He was a senator when he agreed to do this.) But a Senate committee looking into the set-up found that the client's interests were at the state level not the federal level -- alleviating Wheeler of an obvious conflict of interest. Just five senators wound up voting to expel him in 1926. By 1940, his image was sufficiently rehabilitated to be considered a potential running mate for Franklin Roosevelt.

* Michigan Sen. Truman Newberry (R): One year after beating Henry Ford -- yes, THAT Henry Ford -- to win the seat in 1918, Newberry was indicted on charges of widespread violations of state and federal campaign finance laws. Newberry was convicted in 1919, but that conviction was narrowly overturned by the Supreme Court in 1920. In January 1922, Newberry survived a Senate expulsion vote, 46-41. But Ford -- and his immense resources -- threatened further legal action. That threat forced Newberry's hand and he resigned in November 1922.

* Wisconsin Sen. Robert La Folette (R): La Follette delivered a speech in Minnesota in Setpember 1917 in which he bashed the United States' involvement in World War I. Some in Wisconsin didn't take kindly to that sentiment -- the US had just entered the war -- and asked that the Senate remove him. In January 1919, the Senate dropped the issue -- after being unable to find witnesses willing to speak on La Follette's alleged disloyalty to country. By a 50-21 vote, the Senate opted to drop all charges against the Wisconsin Republican.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/13/politics/roy-moore-expelled-history/index.html
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* Oregon Sen. Bob Packwood (R): Packwood faced a series of sexual assault and abuse of power allegations. On September 7, 1995, the Senate Committee on Ethics recommended Packwood be expelled. He announced he would resign the next day and officially left the chamber on October 1, 1995.

* New Jersey Sen. Harrison Williams Jr. (D): Williams was the central figure in the FBI's Abscam sting in which an agent impersonated an Arab Sheik who lavished Williams (and other members of Congress) with money in exchange for access and favorable treatment. Williams was indicted in 1980 and found guilty in 1981. Like Packwood, the Committee on Ethics recommended he be removed. He resigned on March 11, 1982.

* North Dakota Sen. William Langer (R): On the day he was to be seated in the Senate in 1940, Langer was accused of bribery and other charges by a group of North Dakota citizens. A Senate Select Committee tasked with looking into the allegations recommended expulsion. But Langer survived -- with just 30 Senators voting to expel him.

* Louisiana Sen. Huey Long (D)/Louisiana Sen. John Overton (D): Long was elected first in 1930 but played a major role in Overton's election two years later as well. The allegation was that Long -- through his control of the apparatus of state government -- used government resources as campaign workers to help Overton. Two Senate committees tasked with looking into the charges couldn't find their way through the thicket of allegations, and no expulsion vote was ever held for either man.

* Montana Sen. Burton Wheeler (D): Wheeler was paid by someone to represent their interests before the Department of the Interior. (He was a senator when he agreed to do this.) But a Senate committee looking into the set-up found that the client's interests were at the state level not the federal level -- alleviating Wheeler of an obvious conflict of interest. Just five senators wound up voting to expel him in 1926. By 1940, his image was sufficiently rehabilitated to be considered a potential running mate for Franklin Roosevelt.

* Michigan Sen. Truman Newberry (R): One year after beating Henry Ford -- yes, THAT Henry Ford -- to win the seat in 1918, Newberry was indicted on charges of widespread violations of state and federal campaign finance laws. Newberry was convicted in 1919, but that conviction was narrowly overturned by the Supreme Court in 1920. In January 1922, Newberry survived a Senate expulsion vote, 46-41. But Ford -- and his immense resources -- threatened further legal action. That threat forced Newberry's hand and he resigned in November 1922.

* Wisconsin Sen. Robert La Folette (R): La Follette delivered a speech in Minnesota in Setpember 1917 in which he bashed the United States' involvement in World War I. Some in Wisconsin didn't take kindly to that sentiment -- the US had just entered the war -- and asked that the Senate remove him. In January 1919, the Senate dropped the issue -- after being unable to find witnesses willing to speak on La Follette's alleged disloyalty to country. By a 50-21 vote, the Senate opted to drop all charges against the Wisconsin Republican.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/13/politics/roy-moore-expelled-history/index.html
Did you ever question why CNN would be drooling at the prospect of expelling a Senator who hasn't been elected yet?

If Republicans voted to expel a Senator on the basis of allegations, without anything more substantial, it will be the end of the Party.
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Did you ever question why CNN would be drooling at the prospect of expelling a Senator who hasn't been elected yet?

If Republicans voted to expel a Senator on the basis of allegations, without anything more substantial, it will be the end of the Party.



They’ve basically assured themselves of their own destruction with their inaction and sellout over the last decade.  I’m not expecting an epiphany.
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If Republicans voted to expel a Senator on the basis of allegations, without anything more substantial, it will be the end of the Party.

Perhaps we should encourage that so their end can be hastened and Conservatives can truly begin building a viable new party outside the DC cesspool.
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