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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2017, 02:45:33 am »
Speaking of "truth" and "fictions", why does some of the ink here appear to be of a different color...?



Did a pen run dry at just that moment...?  ;)

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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2017, 02:55:14 am »
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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2017, 03:01:29 am »
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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2017, 03:08:00 am »


Those might have exsisted in 1977 but I don't recall ever having seen one. 
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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2017, 03:17:19 am »
Those might have exsisted in 1977 but I don't recall ever having seen one.
I had one of those when I was in elementary school---in the 1960s. They were popular with
kids around the country for a couple of decades.
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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2017, 03:22:58 am »
If one was going to fake the last part of the note supposedly written by Moore, surely that person would use the same color ink, not another color.

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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2017, 03:53:12 am »
If one was going to fake the last part of the note supposedly written by Moore, surely that person would use the same color ink, not another color.
You'd think they'd make all their sevens the same way, too.
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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2017, 04:59:24 am »
Total bullcrap.

My dad sparked my mother in his late 20's she was 17 when they married. And that is in no wise uncommon in that generation.

My mother was 13 when I was born.
Dad was 17 but closer to 18.

Thank God dad wasn't put in jail and mom didn't have an abortion! :shrug:
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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2017, 05:02:42 am »
My mother was 13 when I was born.
Dad was 17 but closer to 18.

Thank God dad wasn't put in jail and mom didn't have an abortion! :shrug:

That age spread is too much. You'll have the common decency to self abort immediately, right?

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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2017, 05:05:46 am »
Someone over at Free Republic posted to me some interesting information if true. 

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Steve Bannon And Allies Have Second Thoughts About Roy Moore, Sources Say
11/14/2017, 7:28:50 PM · 93 of 129
inquisitive mo to DiogenesLamp
Hi my first post. I found something interesting on
classmates.com
2009 Gadsden High school (30 year class reunion)

Beverly Young and leigh Corfman BOTH GRADUATED 1979
Same class same school same year.

1979 Leigh Corfman claimed to be 14 years old.
I guess they know each other.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3604783/posts?page=93#93



Apparently this entry was a trick by someone wanting to prank people.   
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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2017, 05:13:18 am »
Someone over at Free Republic posted to me some interesting information if true. 

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3604783/posts?page=93#93

If this is true,  it sorta blows the "I was 14 at the time"  bullsh*t.

Be careful.  Anyone can add a name to Classmates.  I can add yours to that same class at that same high school.
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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2017, 05:15:52 am »
Be careful.  Anyone can add a name to Classmates.  I can add yours to that same class at that same high school.


Well if that's the case,  it's not necessarily proof of anything.   So who would have added Leigh Corfman's name to that?   Maybe another "false flag" operation?   


This ought not be hard to verify.  I would think someone could have found out one way or the other by now. 

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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2017, 05:17:07 am »
That age spread is too much. You'll have the common decency to self abort immediately, right?

I'm slow aborting.
Another 10 plus years should do it?

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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2017, 01:49:31 pm »
Sinkspur clearly is in the right on this. This is not about criminal conviction...that's an issue for the courts. As a political issue, this guy is a nightmare and must go. If he wins, he's a millstone hung around every Republican's neck...that may not be fair, and it would not happen to a Dem (but you should not doubt that the MSM will make sure this happens)....if he loses, we lose the seat.

What this man has admitted to makes him unacceptable...much less the fact he faces some VERY credible allegations about dating girls as young as 14. Politically, this can't be ignored or set aside without major negative consequences for conservatives in the Senate and House.

So who would you have replace Moore on the ballot?  Another Republican liberal? Might as well forfeit the election and install the Democrat.

And BTW,  the allegations aren't credible unless and until there is proof.

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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2017, 01:51:51 pm »
So who would you have replace Moore on the ballot?  Another Republican liberal? Might as well forfeit the election and install the Democrat.

And BTW,  the allegations aren't credible unless and until there is proof.

/snicker

And by “proof” you mean nothing less than a sworn confession by Moore given in open court. 

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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2017, 01:53:07 pm »
People are convicted on eye-witness testimony.

Also, seems some weren't so concerned about extreme liberal progressives being elected leader of this country in 2012 and 2016.

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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2017, 01:58:22 pm »
/snicker

And by “proof” you mean nothing less than a sworn confession by Moore given in open court.
That could've been coerced. Just sayin'.

The fact remains that these kinds of salacious allegations can neither be proven nor disproven, and when they come out at the one possible time when other people will be hurt, and sinister political operatives have the most to gain from lying, I have plenty of reason to doubt.
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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2017, 02:00:05 pm »
/snicker

And by “proof” you mean nothing less than a sworn confession by Moore given in open court.

Howabout starting with something other than hearsay?

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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2017, 02:12:27 pm »
/snicker

And by “proof” you mean nothing less than a sworn confession by Moore given in open court.

How about corroboration?  An actual witness to the alleged event, or maybe some hard evidence. 

Nothing I've seen so far constitutes corroboration.

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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2017, 02:17:06 pm »
So who would you have replace Moore on the ballot?  Another Republican liberal? Might as well forfeit the election and install the Democrat.

And BTW,  the allegations aren't credible unless and until there is proof.

It's not our fault if you don't see being pro-life as Luther Strange is as being liberal and on nearly every other issue.

Also, we all deserve to vote however we want but it did not seem some were too concerned about having extreme leftists in the White House versus President Trump or against Mitt Romney in 2012.

Half a loaf is better than none.

People are convicted on eyewitness testimony.

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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2017, 02:23:06 pm »
Sinkspur clearly is in the right on this. This is not about criminal conviction...that's an issue for the courts. As a political issue, this guy is a nightmare and must go. If he wins, he's a millstone hung around every Republican's neck...that may not be fair, and it would not happen to a Dem (but you should not doubt that the MSM will make sure this happens)....if he loses, we lose the seat.

What this man has admitted to makes him unacceptable...much less the fact he faces some VERY credible allegations about dating girls as young as 14. Politically, this can't be ignored or set aside without major negative consequences for conservatives in the Senate and House.

Bears being repeated, just "not denying" going out with teenage girls is a huge strike in many people's minds.

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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2017, 02:39:39 pm »
It's not our fault if you don't see being pro-life as Luther Strange is as being liberal and on nearly every other issue.

Also, we all deserve to vote however we want but it did not seem some were too concerned about having extreme leftists in the White House versus President Trump or against Mitt Romney in 2012.

Half a loaf is better than none.

People are convicted on eyewitness testimony.

We all deserve to vote however we want -- but the same apparently does not apply to the voters in Alabama, right? 

The voters rejected Strange in favor of Moore in the primaries.  If Moore is removed and replaced by Strange or anyone else, the voters lose their right to choose the senatot they might want in the special election. 

Do you not see what is happening here?  The party hierarchy has decided that voters are too stupid to select their representatives.  So the party is going to do it for them. 

So neither of us is an Alabama voter, and on the surface you and I might not have a stake in this particular election.  But if the party gets away with tossing out the candidate Alabama voters want, what is there to stop the party from doing the same in your state or mine? 

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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2017, 02:41:47 pm »
Bears being repeated, just "not denying" going out with teenage girls is a huge strike in many people's minds.

Maybe in yours, perhaps.   Not sure about others. 

However, I have heard that Moore has demanded proof of the allegations.   

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« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2017, 02:42:57 pm »
We all deserve to vote however we want -- but the same apparently does not apply to the voters in Alabama, right? 

The voters rejected Strange in favor of Moore in the primaries.  If Moore is removed and replaced by Strange or anyone else, the voters lose their right to choose the senatot they might want in the special election. 

Do you not see what is happening here?  The party hierarchy has decided that voters are too stupid to select their representatives.  So the party is going to do it for them. 

So neither of us is an Alabama voter, and on the surface you and I might not have a stake in this particular election.  But if the party gets away with tossing out the candidate Alabama voters want, what is there to stop the party from doing the same in your state or mine?

Yes, the people of Alabama have that right. I wonder alone, if Moore would have won if we had the info we have today?  Doesn't deny dating teen age girls when he was thirty plus. A lot of people would see that as a strike against him. He may well not have won.  That is another consideration.

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Re: The Truth and Fictions of the Roy Moore Debacle
« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2017, 02:49:56 pm »
You've got to wonder about these arguments and the sincerity of them.

We have a lot of folks who seemed to be against Trump at every term; and would have seen a continuation of radicalism started under Obama.

Now, some guy who, even if the official translation of events doesn't make it so and may not be fair, is perceived as a child rapist by many. Oh, yeah, let's have him in the Senate representing the GOP.

Hey, if they were so against Trump, why take their word now?