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« Reply #150 on: November 14, 2017, 03:09:10 pm »
Remind me again of how many women falsely accused Herman Cain? And how
many falsely accused Donald Trump? This is SOP for the uniparty.

How do you know they were false? 

They were all believable.  And Trump said he was going to sue them.  How many has he sued? 
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« Reply #151 on: November 14, 2017, 03:13:00 pm »
@CatherineofAragon

Last night I read the accounts of people who had responsible jobs in the mall of that town at that time and they all knew Moore had been banned from the mall for soliciting sex from teenagers in the mall.

Moore, being a deputy district attorney at the time, had the power to hurt anyone who would make public what he did.  No one, even adults, would go against him.  Now, they can and they are. 

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« Reply #152 on: November 14, 2017, 03:15:27 pm »
How do you know they were false? 

They were all believable.  And Trump said he was going to sue them.  How many has he sued?

Because nothing ever came of them.

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« Reply #153 on: November 14, 2017, 03:16:29 pm »
@INVAR

Moore had a reputation, too. 

To believe that all of these people are lying strains credulity.

I’m sorry you allow partisanship to color your objectivity.

For INVAR, it's not partisanship, it's that Moore is his kind of bigoted assclown.   He thinks most Republicans are out to get and silence the bigoted assclowns.   He'll keep defending Moore even if he were to sign an affidavit admitting all the accusations are true.   After all,  Mary was a teenager . . .  *****rollingeyes*****
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« Reply #154 on: November 14, 2017, 03:21:58 pm »
For INVAR, it's not partisanship, it's that Moore is his kind of bigoted assclown.

Says the king of bigoted Leftist assclowns on this board.
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« Reply #155 on: November 14, 2017, 03:34:01 pm »
If this Old Hickory House has been around for 40 some odd years, then why isn’t there any reviews of it anywhere? Even Facebook has a made up page with no details. Nothing on Yelp either. Saw one page where it had only 4 employees and made only 100 grand a year.
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« Reply #156 on: November 14, 2017, 03:34:36 pm »
@Smokin Joe

Well, as I noted over and over on the Fight Club thread, and which I’m sure you saw, I wasn’t sure at the time.  It looked that way to me.  But now, after all of this from people n Alabama?  A cop saying he was banned from the mall for harassing teenaged girls?  Heck yeah, I think he’s guilty.

And it’s fine for me to think so.  I’m not “convicting” him and there IS no need for a judge or jury—-he isn’t on trial.  Politicians are tried in the court of public opinion. 

This guy’s life isn’t going to be ruined by denying him higher office. 

So if he’s guilty, she might have been partially to blame, because men in their thirties cruise malls for kids all the time.   But if not, cut out her tongue.  I’m thinking another body part would be more suitable for removal, and it isn’t hers.
The hell he isn't on trial, it's trial by Media.

It is as common as cat crap in a litter box nowadays, and even here, half a dozen of you are calling for him to surrender a hard fought candidacy over allegations.

That, considering the effort, etc. put forth to get that far would represent being deprived of something he has worked for without due process of law. It's the same sort of character assassination carried out against another candidate, and as I said, if the charges have merit--IF, then he should step down--and IF he knowingly groped some girl younger than the age of consent or against her will, then produce the evidence and at least give the man a chance to be exonerated.

This sort of smear reeks of seven mistresses and daddy killing JFK. It has that same stink to it. 

I'm not sure how fast malls went up in Alabama, but I grew up 50 miles from Washington DC and knew of one by 1974. I really doubt there were multiple malls in a town in Alabama in 1977, or that Moore--or anyone else-- had a reputation built for 'cruising for young girls' in malls there in 1977. There might have been one in town.


What has me floored, though, aside from a couple of usual suspects, is the absolute determination some on this board have to hang this guy.
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Re: Meet Roy Moore Accuser, Beverly Young Nelson: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
« Reply #157 on: November 14, 2017, 03:36:12 pm »
No. Like Foster Brooks.

You're getting close:


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« Reply #158 on: November 14, 2017, 03:39:19 pm »
The hell he isn't on trial, it's trial by Media.

It is as common as cat crap in a litter box nowadays, and even here, half a dozen of you are calling for him to surrender a hard fought candidacy over allegations.

That, considering the effort, etc. put forth to get that far would represent being deprived of something he has worked for without due process of law. It's the same sort of character assassination carried out against another candidate, and as I said, if the charges have merit--IF, then he should step down--and IF he knowingly groped some girl younger than the age of consent or against her will, then produce the evidence and at least give the man a chance to be exonerated.

This sort of smear reeks of seven mistresses and daddy killing JFK. It has that same stink to it.
Agree. That’s why these sleezeballs do it. It’s so easy to make allegations in the court of public opinion because they don’t have to prove their facts beyond a reasonable doubt. Just put it out there in the media, even paid for by the media, and wammo they’re guilty. Pathetic state of affairs in this country.
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« Reply #159 on: November 14, 2017, 03:41:10 pm »
If this Old Hickory House has been around for 40 some odd years, then why isn’t there any reviews of it anywhere? Even Facebook has a made up page with no details. Nothing on Yelp either. Saw one page where it had only 4 employees and made only 100 grand a year.

Maybe people in Gadsden don't leave reviews. 
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« Reply #160 on: November 14, 2017, 03:43:45 pm »
Maybe people in Gadsden don't leave reviews.
So Gadsden never gets tourists, the very people likely to leave reviews? Tell that to the Chamber of Commerce.
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« Reply #161 on: November 14, 2017, 03:44:24 pm »
The hell he isn't on trial, it's trial by Media.

It is as common as cat crap in a litter box nowadays, and even here, half a dozen of you are calling for him to surrender a hard fought candidacy over allegations.

That, considering the effort, etc. put forth to get that far would represent being deprived of something he has worked for without due process of law. It's the same sort of character assassination carried out against another candidate, and as I said, if the charges have merit--IF, then he should step down--and IF he knowingly groped some girl younger than the age of consent or against her will, then produce the evidence and at least give the man a chance to be exonerated.

This sort of smear reeks of seven mistresses and daddy killing JFK. It has that same stink to it.

Really?  Ole Mitch McConnell realizes we're at a turning point.  Weinstein, Spacey, Louis CK have demonstrated that women don't lie about these kinds of things, that they don't tell because of fear they won't be believed, and, as the reaction has demonstrated, they don't tell because of how they'll be treated by defenders.

If the Grand Old Pederast party wants to go into next year's elections defending Roy Moore, good luck with that.  Is losing Congress worth defending this unfit candidate?
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« Reply #162 on: November 14, 2017, 03:46:34 pm »
Because nothing ever came of them.

LOL!! Those women are still around and they haven't backed off their accusations.  Trump told you the way he acted toward women in the Access Hollywood tape, and you still won't believe him.
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« Reply #163 on: November 14, 2017, 03:46:58 pm »
If this Old Hickory House has been around for 40 some odd years, then why isn’t there any reviews of it anywhere? Even Facebook has a made up page with no details. Nothing on Yelp either. Saw one page where it had only 4 employees and made only 100 grand a year.

Not that difficult to find, and most of these are old listings and reviews, from 2013 and before. (yes, some jokers added a review in the past week but there are also reviews from 2011 and 2013)

https://www.mapquest.com/us/alabama/old-hickory-house-363661604
https://www.yelp.com/biz/old-hickory-house-gadsden?adjust_creative=bing&utm_campaign=yelp_feed&utm_medium=feed_v2&utm_source=bing




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« Reply #164 on: November 14, 2017, 03:47:55 pm »
Is losing Congress worth defending this unfit candidate?

If they lose Congress it will be due to their doing jack shit that they promised their constituents for 7 years leading up to the last election and  acting like Democrats and supporting the Democrat agenda.  It's NOT going to be due the fact that the voters in Alabama elect Moore to represent them.
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« Reply #165 on: November 14, 2017, 03:48:20 pm »
If this Old Hickory House has been around for 40 some odd years, then why isn’t there any reviews of it anywhere? Even Facebook has a made up page with no details. Nothing on Yelp either. Saw one page where it had only 4 employees and made only 100 grand a year.

'Old Hickory House' is a chain.  We have a few here in Atlanta.  Or at least we used to.  I know of one in Dunwoody and another near Ansley Park.
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« Reply #166 on: November 14, 2017, 03:48:52 pm »
Really?  Ole Mitch McConnell realizes we're at a turning point.  Weinstein, Spacey, Louis CK have demonstrated that women don't lie about these kinds of things, that they don't tell because of fear they won't be believed, and, as the reaction has demonstrated, they don't tell because of how they'll be treated by defenders.

If the Grand Old Pederast party wants to go into next year's elections defending Roy Moore, good luck with that.  Is losing Congress worth defending this unfit candidate?

What Ole Mitch knows is that if Roy Moore became a senator he will then have TWO straight arrow constitutionalist to deal with in that place! 
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« Reply #167 on: November 14, 2017, 03:49:24 pm »
Really?  Ole Mitch McConnell realizes we're at a turning point.  Weinstein, Spacey, Louis CK have demonstrated that women don't lie about these kinds of things, that they don't tell because of fear they won't be believed, and, as the reaction has demonstrated, they don't tell because of how they'll be treated by defenders.

If the Grand Old Pederast party wants to go into next year's elections defending Roy Moore, good luck with that.  Is losing Congress worth defending this unfit candidate?
So is McConnell more principled than Moore? Forget their background
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« Reply #168 on: November 14, 2017, 03:51:24 pm »
LOL!! Those women are still around and they haven't backed off their accusations.  Trump told you the way he acted toward women in the Access Hollywood tape, and you still won't believe him.

So why haven't they pursued those accusations in courts of law?  Inquiring minds want to know!
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« Reply #169 on: November 14, 2017, 03:53:43 pm »
So why haven't they pursued those accusations in courts of law?  Inquiring minds want to know!

Not to go too off topic, but many of the Trump accusers did pursue the accusations in court. Trump went after them with high priced lawyers and settled many, many cases to make them go away.

Just one example: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/exclusive-inside-the-donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuit/

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« Reply #170 on: November 14, 2017, 03:55:48 pm »
Not that difficult to find, and most of these are old listings and reviews, from 2013 and before. (yes, some jokers added a review in the past week but there are also reviews from 2011 and 2013)

https://www.mapquest.com/us/alabama/old-hickory-house-363661604
https://www.yelp.com/biz/old-hickory-house-gadsden?adjust_creative=bing&utm_campaign=yelp_feed&utm_medium=feed_v2&utm_source=bing


The sign on the front says celebrating 40 years. So it could be that old when the women say her was a regular for years.
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« Reply #171 on: November 14, 2017, 04:01:24 pm »
So why haven't they pursued those accusations in courts of law?  Inquiring minds want to know!

Depending on the source the best estimates are that only 34% to 50% of rapes/sexual assaults are reported to police.  Of those that are reported a very small percentage result in jail time.  Again depending on the source.

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« Reply #172 on: November 14, 2017, 04:03:09 pm »
You're kidding.  It's identical. 

You're not defending Roy Moore, are you?  You believe his lame-assed response over these five women?
As a teenager, I was falsely accused of some serious threats (non-sexual) by five teenage girls. They all took back their accusations against me, and most apologized. Maybe that's why I have more of a tendency to give the accused the benefit of the doubt.
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« Reply #173 on: November 14, 2017, 04:03:59 pm »
Depending on the source the best estimates are that only 34% to 50% of rapes/sexual assaults are reported to police.  Of those that are reported a very small percentage result in jail time.  Again depending on the source.


So you go out of your way 40 years later to tarnish a person, because you don’t want to appear foolish?
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« Reply #174 on: November 14, 2017, 04:05:07 pm »
Depending on the source the best estimates are that only 34% to 50% of rapes/sexual assaults are reported to police.  Of those that are reported a very small percentage result in jail time.  Again depending on the source.


And that proves what exactly with regard to what is being discussed here?
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